New Bill Would Make All Pornography a Federal Crime in the U.S.
New Bill Would Make All Pornography a Federal Crime in the U.S.
Republicans are drunk with power. What a stupid fucking idea. There’s no chance of banning porn. Then they wouldn’t be able to jerk to Trans women and feel shame after.
Trans women are hot, in case that reads as though the shame is correct. It’s not.
Remember that the far right has been desperately trying to label any LGBTQ-related content as 'porn'. Educational resources? 'Porn'. Biographies about gay people? 'Porn'. Drag queens? 'Porn'. A book about a boy with two mommies? 'Porn'. Anything that acknowledges the existence of trans people? 'Porn'.
The purpose of this bill isn't to ban porn, it's to ban 'porn'. Anything they don't like will be deemed 'porn', and then this gives them the legal justification to ban whatever they want.
Cancel culture at its finest. Where my free speech absolutists gone?!
They were just bigots?
🔫 Always have been
Friendly reminder that only one party takes rights away.
And that's the party that got all the stupid fucks in our society to think they were the party of freedom.
And all the "Dems aren't fixing it fast enough!" voters thinking it'll be good for some reason.
That's because they're children who want exactly what they want, immediately, or fuck it all and let it burn.
Regulations are put in place to make sure some people aren't allowed to hurt other people. Some would argue that this takes away their rights.
Regulations are put in place to make sure some people aren’t allowed to hurt other people
I'd also extend that definition to "other life" too. Some MAGA may say: "The libruls want to take a way my rights to do what I want with my land!" When in fact it may be an endangered species has its last nesting ground on that land.
No one has the rights to harm another. Your argument is ridiculous.
Can you provide examples? Or just here to make generalizations?
To clearly state the obvious: it does take away their liberty and that's a good thing. Economic liberalism is a tragedy.
Look, reflexively saying "both sides aren't the same" is ignorant and actively doing harm when you use it to broadly. Are both parties the same? No. But on many issues, both parties are the same. And this is one of those issues. What you are saying is demonstrably, patently false.
The South Carolina bill passed with near-universal bipartisan support.
Same thing with the Texas bill.
On this issue, both sides are just as bad. Democrats are just as bad as Republicans.
The problem Democrats have is that they don't actually believe in anything. They follow polls and consultants, and they lack any backbone. They have no fight in them.
Look at trans rights. Democrats have completely ceded the issue to Republicans. Trans people make the walking corpses that are the Democratic leadership feel icky, so they offer only symbolic support to the trans community. Kamala, in the face of tens of millions of dollars of right wing demonization of trans people, couldn't even offer the most basic defense of trans rights and the worth of trans lives. All she could say was, "I'll follow the law."
It's really, really easy to make Democrats completely cave on the rights of any group. All you have to do is make the case to the public that it's for the good of children. Want to ban porn? Bill it as for the kids, and the Dems will be too chicken shit to say a word against it. Want to send trans people to gas chambers? Say it's for the kids, and Dems will vote for it. Demonize immigrants? The Democrats will try to outflank you on the right, competing with Republicans to see who can be crueler to immigrants and asylum seekers. Name the bill after a white woman that happened to be killed by an illegal immigrant, make defending it require effort, and Democrats will be falling over themselves to vote to send migrants to death camps.
Are the two parties the same? No. But on many issues, they are virtually identical. As long as you can make a flimsy case that some stripping of rights is for the good of the children, Democrats will ALWAYS be too cowardly to stand up against the propaganda. It's been this way since at least Tipper Gore in the 90s.
I got to the part where you tried to equate Democrats not doing enough to help trans people with Republicans actively persecuting them and then I stopped reading because I realized I was reading straight up bullshit.
Democrats have removed ZERO rights. Republicans have and are actively trying to remove more. And one quick glance at both party's voting history, you know, the thing that actually causes legislation to be enacted, very clearly paints the parties in TOTALLY different lights.
Yeah, the freedom to oppress others, just like the founding fathers did!
“Obscenity isn’t protected by the First Amendment, but hazy and unenforceable legal definitions have allowed extreme pornography to saturate American society and reach countless children,” Lee said in a press release. “Our bill updates the legal definition of obscenity for the internet age so this content can be taken down and its peddlers prosecuted.”
My memory is a bit hazy, but I think this phrasing is taken almost verbatim from Project 2025.
They are jumping the gun a little here. Project 2025 has declaring basically anything a transperson does as pornographic first then this. Guess some incompetence in execution shouldn't be surprising from their crowd.
I think the order of operations is almost unimportant if their opposition can only secure minor, temporary victories and nobody is truly stopping them. If anything the broad stroke of this bill could be used as cover while states quietly criminalize homosexuality and transgenderism by fiat.
Obscenity isn’t protected by the First Amendment
Is this the same Constitution that they're pissing on with everything else? It most certainly does protect it. Do NOT use the "think of the children" shit when your actions towards children safety has been the complete opposite. Hell, I saw news today of further cuts being pursued for Medicare, as well as past things on cutting school lunches and of course the destruction of the DoE. You do NOT care about children, do not bring them into this.
Actually they've been trying to invoke the Comstock Act constantly to force ISPs to block porn sites. This particular rallying cry is something I remember since the late Bush II years.
Will no one think of the children? Whenever these people say something, the best strategy is look in the opposite direction they are pointing you. In this instance, they are working to pass child-bride full-legalization. They're definitely thinking of the children.
Don't forget Florida trying to weaken child labor laws. MAGA. If the mine was good enough for great grandpa, it's good enough for you.
When you use AI to write your bills and tell it to implement Project 2025.
Guns fall into children's hands all the time, something that literally kills, and they don't seem to give a shit about that
Check this guy's computer first. Guarantee there's some fucked up shit on there. It's always projection.
Mike Lee is a full-blown Mormon, which heavily frowns upon porn in any form (including literal prophetic teachings calling women "walking pornography"), so he absolutely does have porn on his devices.
Source: grew up Mormon, was taught this by leadership
You see the porn he's got probably illegal already
It's part of the plan in Project 2025, to ban pornography and then classify LGBT literature as pornography
Yuppers.
Already 2025 creators starting to populate upper us government.
https://www.irishstar.com/news/us-news/creator-controversial-project-2025-creator-35213359
If you think the porn industry is exploitative and abusive now, just wait until they push it all underground.
Woah, that's a thought that hadn't occurred to me. You're absolutely right.
This is true about almost every vice. That's why Prohibition didn't work. Almost as soon as alcohol was banned, people started making very adulterated products, people died, organized crime became a thing. It's the same idea with cannabis, sex work, other drugs, etc. The result of prohibition is almost always people getting hurt.
I’m pretty anti-porn just like I’m very anti-religion but neither of these things can be killed by banning them. The idea that banning porn will somehow prevent people from accessing it when we know even people in NK or places like the Middle East can access it is just crazy, of course Americans will continue to be able to access it, and like you said this will just push production and distribution underground actually exacerbating the issues with the porn industry. I have few actual complaints about the end result of porn, I don’t believe it’s good or healthy but as a product to be consumed it’s only moderately harmful but the production of porn is where the real evils are found. This will lead to those in the porn industry being abused at rates and in ways currently unfathomable or illegal.
Just think about the popularity of the "schoolgirl/barely legal" image as it currently exists in porn. If it becomes just as illegal to hire a young-looking 25 year old actress as it is to exploit an actual child, a lot producers will opt for the latter.
Even the most oppressive tyrants in history understood the concept of bread and circuses. Most people will stay complacent when their fundamental rights are being taken away as long as they have their distractions. Taking away the distractions is something you only do after you've fully consolidated your power. They're so obsessed with projecting an aura of oppressiveness that they've forgotten how to hold power.
That's because they WANT riots in the streets. Perfect reason to suspend the constitution and impose martial law. An orange turn needs his crown ya know.
Modern consumerism is singlehandedly a good enough distraction...
So what happens when the shelves at WalMart are empty?
I've been saying this for awhile; I think Trump wasn't supposed to win this term. He looked legit surprised when he won, and I think the Republicans were planning for four more years to really solidify their plans, and get more right wing gov'ts in power first (like Canada). Trump winning pushed everything up four years early, and made them basically have to speed-run to the goal. They went mask off so fast, and they're driving everything through before it would have been ideal. It's now or never.
“Party of freedom”, everyone.
freedom to invade your home without a warrant on suspicion for harboring an undesirable.
freedom to live in crushing debt and be forced to work like a dog your whole life.
freedom to buy, freedom to sell.
edit - guess that's what you get when you elect Biff... twice
Yeah, that's the sadness we'll live with the rest of our lives.
No one invaded us and did this to us. We did it to ourselves. Because we're an exceptionally stupid society.
Republicans want government in the bedroom.
The American porn industry is as big as Hollywood. This is a big billions of dollars market. And the US porn industry provides 90% of international porn. So Trump and his GOP wants to kill the one last American industry where the US is world market leader by far.
And I can easily see this industry moving to countries where actors are cheaper and less protected from abuse, diseases, and whatever else happening in this industry.
While this will make some religious fundamentalists in the US feel superior and give them a sense of a perceived moral high ground, it will actually hurt the most vulnerable people in the chain the most. It will not reduce the amount of porn made, it will just make it much, much worse for those involved.
Probably Europe, eastern Europe is already pretty populair for that market and otherwise countries like The Netherlands where sex is well normal and we don't treat it otherwise.
tieten op tv!
Problem is onlyfans putting more money in the wallets of the performers and not into the political-industral complex.
Under the bill, content would be considered obscene if it appeals to prurient interests in nudity
And since they've already taken away due process, they're basically paving the way to send anyone who has a body they don't like to a death camp. I don't think it's hyperbole anymore to say that that US is fucked.
This is basically how we ended up with the burqa. A woman's body is evil because it makes men unable to control their sexual urges, therefore women must be banned. Now, in Afghanistan, a woman's voice must not even be heard.
How long until the USA reaches that point?
The US is heading surprisingly rapidly towards that point. It was a tragedy when it happened in the Middle East. Unfortunately many of the right wing people in the US don't understand this yet.
Eh. This isn’t new. It’s one dipshit senator and one dipshit representative.
People have been trying to get porn banned in the US for as long as there’s been porn.
I would not take this lightly, you are not wrong about it going nowhere. For now. All they have to do is convince their voters that porn is woke.
The bill may not be a new proposal, but the environment it's being proposed in is. It has a far higher chance of passing now, with this government, than it ever has before.
yes, exactly - criminalizing porn and the obscene is the first step in Project 2025 to genocide trans people:
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/17416590241312149
Pornography, he writes:
[is] manifested today in the omnipresent propagation of transgender ideology and sexualization of children [. . .] It has no claim to First Amendment protection. Its purveyors are child predators and misogynistic exploiters of women. Their product is as addictive as any illicit drug and as psychologically destructive as any crime. Pornography should be outlawed (Roberts, 2023: 5).
This invocation of pornography is intentionally broad, vague, and amorphous. By equating trans issues (“transgenderism” and “transgender ideology”) with pornography, child abuse, and misogyny, this vision takes one step toward the outlawing of trans people altogether. Roberts (2023) goes on to detail the draconian and restrictive mechanisms necessary for eradicating pornography and all that comes with it: “The people who produce and distribute it should be imprisoned. Educators and public librarians who purvey it should be classed as registered sex offenders. And telecommunications and technology firms that facilitate its spread should be shuttered” (p. 5). Such extreme rhetoric signals a no-holds barred approach to regulating gender, sexuality, and privacy. Aware that more left-leaning states would be unlikely to arrest trans people on such counts, the document later details a wider plan through which the Department of Justice would intervene and prosecute any local officials not willing to bring criminal action against LGBTQ people (Hamilton, 2023: 553).
Republicans: “We have learned nothing from prohibition and refuse to try!”
The War on drugs is supported by both mainstream political parties.
I feel like my teenage son is about to become an activist
Brought to you by a president who f****d a pornstar and paid her off by falsifying business records.
Clown world for a clown species.
Brought to you by the only first lady to have pictures in Playboy.
USA has the biggest porn industry in the world, doesn’t it?
100%. Porn is what pushed the development of e-commerce and credit card payments online.
What they WILL get is eID laws as a result, and the total lack of privacy online.
Interesting point. This would further harm our economy. Not that they'll care about that.
”I'm fairly sure if they took porn off the internet, there'd only be one website left, and it'd be called ’Bring back the porn!’ ” - Dr Cox
Okay so previously I would’ve thought this is performative with no chance of it passing. However states have already passed laws that require proving ID to sites like pornhub before you can access and I am SHOCKED that they did it.
People in these areas are either using VPN, verifying an account with pornhub, or just not using pornhub. All 3 of which would be absolutely surprises to me but it’s gotta be one of them, right?
The group behind the state ID laws want to ban it nationally and have openly said those laws are stepping stones.
Can't get the PornHub in South Carolina due to this. It's what I've been told at least.
Oh wow, I hope they do it. Nothing is going to upset the MAGA crowd faster than losing access to the trans pornography they view in the privacy of their own homes while condemning publicly. I'd imagine a lot of them are not going to understand VPN.
Nah this type of law exists to be selectively applied, that's what makes it so great.
The only people who it will be applied to are those who are "undesirable" or step out of line.
My question is what defines pornography? Will museums have to cloak statues of naked people? Remove a renaissance era painting because of boobs? How about a movie that has tasteful nudity? Or just ads for Victoria Secret?
Arbitrary enforcement is a feature not a bug
Don’t forget capricious!
Anything they disapprove of.
As is always the case with fascists, the laws will apply to the people they don't like and be ignored for the people they do like. So long as Victoria's Secret's CEO continues paying the bribes, it's not porn.
Christians in the late Roman empire went about destroying a lot of old statues and breaking off the genitalia on them. The Roman's weren't shy about giving nude male statues manly bits down there.
It didn't end with them either. During the Victorian era many European archeologists had no issue breaking the junk off artifacts they found.
The definition of pornography isn’t the issue here as that has a long standing and pretty clear definition. The issue would be the wording of the bill as from the small bit I can see before the paywall block, it isn’t a ban on pornography but a vague ban on obscene content. Who gets to decide what is “obscene content” and how that is determined is the problem as it would be ripe for abuse by whichever party is in power. The government of the day could say that opposing political opinions are “obscene” and therefore banned.
We’d do like the Vatican and chisel off the genitals off all the statues. Next it will be a Christian version of a burka.
I believe the answer is "you know it when you see it"
The article mentions how it will be defined.
John Ashcroft notoriously had the bare-breasted statue of Justice covered up in 2002 (uncovered in 2005) because there were so many public TV appearances at the Justice Department during the worst part of the post-9/11 changes.
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2002-jan-29-mn-25302-story.html
Yep, this is 100% why I hope they actually pull off the porn ban. You want to see MAGA flip faster than Simone, you take away their porn.
My state is on the verge of passing two anti-trans bills but we love watching femboys fuck. This is a nation founded on hypocrisy and that's never changed.
You know what's crazy? The part about feeling shame. There's been some recent studies about a lot of previously diagnosed sex/porn disorders and addictions being tied to shame due to misinformed religious conservative upbringing. If anything, we need to be talking about and teaching more about sex. Not learning about it correctly leads to hangups and shame about the human body, love, and self love that makes you nearly incapable of showing or expressing yourself correctly. That's why all these conservatives are so fucking weird.
The lowest my self esteem had ever been was when I was religious. I'd avoid porn and masturbation for months on end, 6-8 etc, but eventually I'd get a little too turned on and "succumb" to it. I remember hearing peers discuss it as something disgusting, and I considered myself too impure to consider having a relationship.
I won't say my self esteem is amazing now, but I feel much better about myself, and don't think of myself as some terrible sinner who doesn't deserve happiness.
Thank you for sharing that. I'm glad to hear you're feeling better. Just remember that no one is perfect. The older I get the more I reflect back to times or abuses that may have hindered my emotional intelligence. Getting to the root of my own self loathing or anger has made me realize I don't need to continue feeling that pain of the past and bringing it to the present. It's a struggle but I try and just be honest with myself and remember that I am the one that needs to know myself better, learn to rewire that past trauma, and move on with better senses and awareness through my experiences. Let the present mold your future and keep fighting the good fight.
I feel there's some parallels here with fat shaming. (and addiction shaming in general) People exposed to judgemental attitudes about their weight are measurably more likely to become obese, no matter their initial weight. Shaming can make one more fixated on their desire for food, and when that desire is in the front of one's mind, it raises the psychological effort required to resist the urge for comfort in food. That effort is not infinite and will eventually run out, which is why white-knuckling through a diet tends to not lead to permanent results.
Misinformed sex education teaches us to feel shame for sexual urges most everyone has, and in a similar capacity could make one more fixated on that urge. If one instead has a positive view toward their sexuality, they do not have to cope with insecurities that remind them of temptation toward something they're not supposed to do but would be immensely pleasurable. They just do it from time to time and it doesn't bleed into the rest of their life.
idk a bit personal but, I find accepting all parts of my sexuality (especially the parts that make me feel icky) has made me much less prone to risky behavior. shame makes it difficult to make good decisions. I'm a lot more clearheaded now and can just enjoy physical affection with someone I love. I can communicate what I'd enjoy and set appropriate boundaries. fantasy and reality are more well separated now. importantly, I am more satisfied at a baseline and therefore seeking out sex less on the whole.
Body and sex positivity works extremely well as a means of coping with primal urges, not only because it makes us feel better about parts of us that will never go away, but also because accepting them actually leads to better self-control and decisionmaking.
No doubt. I think especially in childhood and early adult hood there are a lot of things that get muddled and tied up in shame where coping mechanisms and real self reflection needs to be ingrained earlier. There's so many little hurdles to overcome in life but having a good foundation probably makes it overall easier.
Fat shaming makes people feel hopeless and actually encourages depression which causes overeating.
People who fat shame KNOW they are causing people to be fat. They're not fat shaming out of concern for others.
It is openly to damage those other people's lives, because the people doing the shaming are looking for a way to make themselves feel good, and fat shaming gives them a positive feeling.
This has been understood for a long time. But I appreciate that you're bringing awareness to people who haven't yet heard. Cheers.
Indeed. This was the article that started me down the rabbit hole. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/women-who-stray/201808/science-stopped-believing-in-porn-addiction-you-should-too All very interesting stuff and there are a lot of peer reviewed papers on the subject as well.
I've always thought it interesting that people say that porn leads to people being incapable of relationships.
It's like, no, obviously plenty of people who watch porn are capable of being in relationships.
The reality is that people who ALREADY have trouble with relationships use porn a lot.
Similarly, drugs don't tend to be step one in a person's life being messed up. The drugs are usually the coping mechanism, not the cause.
And yet, they ban all drugs, rather than putting time and effort to making people's lives better.
You want to reduce porn usage? Have mandatory comprehensive social interaction classes for EVERYONE, including dating, including concepts like consent and flirting and asking people out. It should be a class that EVERY student has, and it should be EVERY year. So no one gets left behind.
You want to reduce drug usage? Have those mandatory social interaction classes AND have classes to cover things that people typically struggle with in life. Connect psychologists, financial organizations, and other professions with educators so that people in those professions can anonymously give data about the issues that people struggle with in life, and work to make sure that classes to deal with those aspects of life happen BEFORE the times when those issues normally tend to pop up in people's lives. Coping classes need to be mandatory.
Drug use will fall through the floor if people are taught coping strategies before they need them in as many areas of life as possible.
Totally. We really just have a lot of mental health problems in this country tied to not seeing therapy as a real tool to aid in building better foundations that lead to better outcomes by being able to build those emotionally intelligent muscles that might get miswired otherwise. Everyone has baggage and no one is perfect, but when we build a world and society that looks down on people with trauma, abuse, or bad/unlucky experiences rather than raising them up we just end up with a sicker and sicker society. We should never be putting people down or outright banning things. Rather, we should be looking at society, its systems, its flaws, and its good points and be trying to better understand it and integrating as much of the human experience into it as we can. Everything can be bad for you if you do enough of it, but it is about finding real restraint through better understanding rather than shaming it all away. At least, that is how I see the world, or at least a better one than the mess we seem to be caught up in now.
They are also scared to touch their own buttholes to clean them properly. If you talk to any of them, they are against using bidets.
You guys touch your buttholes? You don't scrub them with a loofa until they bleed?....huh.
If you're not willing to touch your own butthole, you shouldn't be having sex. It works for both generally and in the moment.
It would be for 10 hours, then Trump would remove the bill and be seen as an hero. As usual.
After 75% of the country comfits a felony?
Perfect! Now we can send so many more people to El Salvador!
This is about getting people breed more. Honestly, I see this motive in all of their policies. The real reason republican politicians hate people who fall into the LGBTQ spectrum is because they can't produce new children and even when they can they're probably much less likely to. They want to get rid of porn, contraceptives, women's rights, and alternative lifestyles and at the same time try to entice people to have kids. If you want to fight against their agenda then don't have kids.
Unfortunately those that believe in their ideology will keep having kids. As an anecdote, my Trump loving cousins have a total of 18 kids compared to the total of 2 for those that aren't. Most of those kids will go on to follow their parents political and ideological beliefs.
This is truly the issue. Uneducated extremists are and will by far outbreed ideologically sane people who tend to doubt society, our existence, and bringing children into the world. Personally I don't believe in the future so I don't see a point in ruining my life with a child's weeping and cleaning poop just for it to grow up and have to be part of this circus of the maniacs.
A bit of polio will take care of that problem.
Idiocracy
Nature has an automated system when a species grows beyond the limit the ecosystem can sustain. They die, either from lack of food, or because they are hunted and eaten. I believe something like this is going to happen. Thanks to JFK Jr, it could totally be measles or another stupid disease, because fortunately, this people don't believe in vaccines.
Also, have children out of spite, and raise them to actually use their brains, to challenge the system. An vaccinate them, so they are around when the others die. Plant the seed of change in them, make them be a better adult than you. Give them the tools you didn't have. Cultivate a loving, tolerant and comprehensive pair of folks, teach them to help those in need. Don't give up reproduction, weaponize it.
If only there was another way to increase the population like accepting people from other nations. Too bad.
Or improving living conditions so people are comfortable having kids
At this point, US politics has gone far beyond the point where we can make jokes about morons voting for the face-eating leopard party. Anybody who didn't vote for Kamala Harris because she wasn't critical enough of Israel, didn't do enough for LGBTQ rights, didn't have enough left wing policies, etc. is now reaping what they sow.
How's that 100 years of "voting for the lesser evil" treating you?
Better than it would have been if we were voting for the greater evil.
Seems to me it helped build up all the things we’re worried about Trump destroying.
Those are two different problems.
Years and years of politicians moving the goalposts further right, letting the rich get richer, allowing more money into politics and disenfranching voters is not something you reverse in a single election, and it won't change until ordinary people get into politics more and at every level.
But if you vote for Trump or abstain from voting, you're encouraging it.
The Puritans are still ruling in that stupid country.
"Both sides are the same" is a queerphobic thing to say.
Those hexbears would be very upset if they could read.
It’s very obvious that people like that have never truly experienced homophobia or transphobia where they live. Otherwise, they’d realize what they’re actually advocating for by not opposing authoritarianism.
Land Of The Free (TM)
Didn't you get the update? It is "Land of the formerly free" now. Was in an Executive Order somewhere, probably.
yeh, it's land of the fucked
Donald doesn’t know anything about Project 2025 though. herp derp
I totally believe him when he says that. I'm not sure he remembers what he had for breakfast yesterday.
The people around him sure do though
probably mcdonacles
So we gonna have people in the corner selling uncensored like in japan?
That was my first thought. This is gonna make the black market porn so valuable. It’s gonna be the greatest illegal trade of all time.
There’s absolutely nothing they can do to ban porn, and the number of people who watch and view porn is so large they can’t arrest everyone, maybe just arrest their enemies?
Also this guy is obviously a pedophile or something, no one else spends this much time talking about porn
Oh look, the Republicans are doing what they always try to do control what we do with our lives. I'm sure this guy has some shady content downloaded onto his computer.
You know what, fuck it. Let this one happen. I'm down for chaos when their own party revolts.
It would also feel really good to openly defy the law and tell them to go fuck themselves.
God I hope they do. It'll be hilarious to watch how quickly all the incels turn on Trump. Not to mention all the married Conservatives who hate their wives.
yeah, except this is the first step in Project 2025 to genocide trans people:
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/17416590241312149
Pornography, he writes:
[is] manifested today in the omnipresent propagation of transgender ideology and sexualization of children [. . .] It has no claim to First Amendment protection. Its purveyors are child predators and misogynistic exploiters of women. Their product is as addictive as any illicit drug and as psychologically destructive as any crime. Pornography should be outlawed (Roberts, 2023: 5).
This invocation of pornography is intentionally broad, vague, and amorphous. By equating trans issues (“transgenderism” and “transgender ideology”) with pornography, child abuse, and misogyny, this vision takes one step toward the outlawing of trans people altogether. Roberts (2023) goes on to detail the draconian and restrictive mechanisms necessary for eradicating pornography and all that comes with it: “The people who produce and distribute it should be imprisoned. Educators and public librarians who purvey it should be classed as registered sex offenders. And telecommunications and technology firms that facilitate its spread should be shuttered” (p. 5). Such extreme rhetoric signals a no-holds barred approach to regulating gender, sexuality, and privacy. Aware that more left-leaning states would be unlikely to arrest trans people on such counts, the document later details a wider plan through which the Department of Justice would intervene and prosecute any local officials not willing to bring criminal action against LGBTQ people (Hamilton, 2023: 553).
Honestly, I'm the idiot here for not immediately assuming this was somehow about attacking trans people.
Schandenfreude is not a good drive for activism...
Bbbut... I didn't think the Porn Burning Leopards Party would burn my porn!
Conservatives keep saying they're for the common people.
Are they? Are they really? Seems to me they're really busy doing stuff that regular folks hate.
What these "people" are doing has nothing to do with conservative values anymore either, these "people" are modern day regressives. They want to drag the nation back about a century. Women without a vote, black people again as slaves, and queer people back in the closet.
hey want to drag the nation back about a century. Women without a vote, black people again as slaves,
Neither of those was the case a century ago. Literally closer to two centuries than one for black folks since slavery (160 years since the 13th Amendment to be more exact) and women's suffrage is also over a century old if you count it starting at the 19th Amendment as opposed to any period where it was up to the states.
Conservatives keep saying they’re for the common people.
They are, they just didn't say ouotloud that are for the common people being jailed/deported.
They think they know how the poor people should act and they want to kill them if they disagree.
I find the entire MAGA movement obscene. Lock them up.
Of course it's that fucking senator from my fucking state. If this actually somehow passed and was somehow enforceable, Utah would be one of the most affected states. Mormons love their porn. The numbers don't lie.
"If all porn got deleted from the internet there would only be one site left and it would read 'Give us back our porn' " - Dr Cox
Who's gonna tell Ted Cruz?
I've been responding to a lot of Republican news with this same comment:
"What happened to bringing the choice to the states?"
Exactly. Same with Meta platforms. You're not fighting with a concept or an idea, this is their entire personality. They don't care how horrid the viewpoint is, they're just happy to be better than something. There's a reason that it's usually the poorest and lowest of our society, it's because they want to feel better than people when they deep down know they're not. It's why it's so hateful. It's why they get joy even when it hurts themselves. They're winning at something.
Project 2025, aka New Gilead in full swing.
I fully believe all the trans hate is self hate from "accidentally" finishing to a tranny video.
Also, any conservative guy with an eye patch lost it to a glory hole accident. They all claim it was a gun accident. The first thing I was taught as a child about fire arms was don't look down the barrel, followed by treat all firearms as if they are loaded. Followed by either. Don't trust the safety is working and/or don't rest your finger on the trigger.
It always comes out the people writing and advocating for these end up the sickest and most twisted sexual deviants out there
ALWAYS
60% of the time, it works everytime
How long until he gets busted for CSAM (real CSAM, not the drawn stuff).
Someone start a religion where porn is the sacrament. Handed down by God himself and shit. Maybe on golden plates.
I feel like The Satanic Temple would be willing to do this.
They did something similar with abortion rights, but I don't think they have gained any legal traction with that argument. (That could also be because they're waiting for a member who has standing to bring a case.)
It could be an official rite of passage, perhaps one that's provided after one receives the great sacrament of Sexual Education. Every student participates in a comprehensive, science-based course that educates them factually about sex, before they're given access to porn. That way, we're not letting porn be sex ed, which is currently a problem for way too many.
This will backfire spectacularly. Red states are bigger fans of porn than blue.
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/2378023120908472
I will enjoy every second of it!
Someone should check these idiots' hard drives. I'm willing to bet they have a lot of nasty stuff that's already illegal on there.
These people really can't just mind their own business.
Fuck no. They've been indoctrinated from birth to have a savior complex.
Theae republicans secretly love their porn. Mike Waltz was caught following interracial gay porn accounts lmao. It's all projection with them
Sorry, let me just rewrite that for you.
The masculine, strong, and very straight MAN Mike Waltz, a well-known defender of masculinity and champion of the deprived, had his Twitter account hacked by evil COMMUNISTS in an attempt to make him appear WEAK. But we, THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, will NOT stand for this INSULT towards this sincere, hard-working AMERICAN.
I. Dare. You.
If they want a "civil war" this is the way to get one, lol
It might actually be their intention, keep pushing until you get unrests and then they can declare martial law and kill anyone they deem left or woke
Someone should make a bunch of AI generated porn of Mike Lee being gang banged by like 40 huge black dudes and post it all over Facebook.
Do gay, be crimes?
we know mike johnson couldnt control his porn consumption.
"When correctly viewed, everything is lewd."
— Tom Lehrer
Republicans telling on themselves again.
New Bill sounds like kind of a dick. Bring back old Bill.
You got it Baybee!
B-b-b-bill nyeee the science guuy
HA! Haha. Ha. Oh man, that’s a good one. All they’ll end up doing is making VPNs even more of a wise investment.
Yes, “it’s us or the porn”, yes this will go well for the republicans, yes. Then they can start on alcohol and gambling
Nah, not alcohol - they'll start with drugs, because that gives them a convenient casus belli to say "Mexico isn't doing enough to suppress the cartels, so the carpet bombing began 20 minutes ago".
doesnt even trigger me anymore. tomorrow the legion of dumbasses will come up with something way stupider. place your bets now!
Moon of America? ...been there fIrSt! Annex earth?
it will be stupider!
This is something I think we can finally agree upon across political divides as a terrible fascist go fuck yourself idea.
Oh, so a news report about him getting caught with some sort of embarrassing porn is about to come out. Got it.
Removing porn is also one of goals of project 2025 so double whammy
Damn, there goes OnlyFans, republicans just killing more american jobs.
That mostly effects women, which is on brand. I don't know the statistics, but I assume a majority of OF content creators are women.
(looked it up, 70% of the creators are women. 70% are also NSFW)
Damn thats a high percentage. I was just tryna be silly, but I appreciate the actual facts. I need to look up how many accounts there are total to get a perspective of what that'll do.
It will be several orders of magnitude worse than prohibition era policies if it passes, although I suspect part of the impetus is because save for the ideologues they are better at competing and prospering in black markets than they are in open markets.
Is that what the Saudi Qatari gift of a new Air Force One to the Talibangelicals was for?
It was Qatar that gave them that, and while the Saudis and Qataris are quite antiporn, they don't give a fuck about the industry outside their own countries.
It's not even moral horseshit. They just want people (primarily of the white variety) fucking and popping out kids instead of jerking it. They need more serfs.
Oh no. If this happens Canada could lose its "shut pornhub down" card. How dare the US take that gun and willingly shoot itself in the foot?
What's next, they'll start taxing themselves on Europe's use of their digital goods and send the money to Europe before they can impose the taxes on their consumers? 47D chess moves here.
I wonder how Kanye feels about his homies trying to take away his favourite internet activity.
who is this Bill, and what does he have against porn. does Bill not know that his other name is Willy?
Bill is like Richard, a dick.
Underground Production is about to raise up in the US!
But how would the Republican Party get their pedo porn?
They're already getting that illegally so that wouldn't change.
Or they’re making it themselves.
Laws do not apply to the bourgeois
You want citizens? I'll get you new citizens tomorrow! Just ban all pornography!
A few months later.......Sir, the people are still not fucking! The males keep trying to rape the females and the females have evolved teeth on their hoohaas....oh no, waif, wait, that's a blurb about a movie I'm going to watch. The women are being raped in higher numbers though. We need those citizens born so we banned abortions.
The porn industry is going to do the same to the GOP that they did to Betamax
They can have my pornography when they pry it from my cold, dead hands!
Article is behind a paywall unfortunately. Is there a link to somewhere else?
If the bill is about actually banning pornography, they’ve got more chance of banning guns to be honest. Democrat and Republican voters alike love their porn, many a little (or a lot) too much.
Honestly it is probably the only thing that would cause a civil war haha
go to archive.is
enter the paywalled URL
get an unblocked version
Annnnd im bookmarking this...have an awesome day to you!
Cheers!
Yeah this is destined to fail again (third times the charm I guess he thinks haha), and absolutely should.
404 Media doesn't require payment for a subscription. Their content is behind a subscriber wall to keep AI bots from accessing their work.
I expect we'll see more of this sort of thing as AI continues gobbling up everything on the internet so that it can write laughably bad term papers for high schoolers.
404 Media doesn’t require payment for a subscription. Their content is behind a subscriber wall to keep AI bots from accessing their work.
Same thing. Requiring my information to read their article is a paywall as they're going to be selling my data.
What can be described as porn is subjective to individuals. It should not be regulated by a government body outside of criminal activity surrounding it's production and distribution.
Not quite. Pornography is pretty well defined, which is how the production and distribution of it can be legislated like it is.
The problem with bills/laws like this is that they intentionally leave what is banned entirely up to the government of the day by using vague language like “obscene content”. It’s not specifically banning pornography, but a government could use it to ban pornography, books, music, clothes, etc.
Your logic and reason won't work with the GOP.
If this happened in europe, we would all collectively wank off infront of the government buildings or some shit
I remember when conservatives said they wanted people out of their bedrooms. Well... as a forever alone, what do you think I do in my bedroom every night?
Joke's on them. Crime is my fetish
Well yeah, they're fuckin' morons. The same thing almost happened to Canada, had Poilievre ended up winning.
Yeah good luck with that.
Everyone except for the trump family of pornographers.
Is it just me or does Mike Lee look like the kind of guy that would have a kiddie porn dungeon
They're likely to be the biggest consumers out there, so, yeah, go on with that.
I think back to the maps that the sites released. The weirdest stuff was always consumed by the reddest areas. Look at the biggest areas where Step anything content is accessed. It's overwhelmingly red.
For fucks sake, why is every article pay walled? Just let me read!
404media requires an account but gives you some number of articles per day for free. It's annoying but they have super good reporting with more depth than many publications without being long winded like some
That's better than requiring a subscription fee but I'm so tired of pretending like this shit is okay. Run ads, fine, I get it, but let me see your damn articles. WSJ is the worst with their whole "democracy dies in darkness" slogan.
Owning the libs just took on a whole notha meaning, aye? What a treat. /s
Maybe that's the whole point. That and then letting Hollywood make profit off of sex scenes.
It's all business disguised as well to do ideology.
It is never for the people. If it was for the people we would be building proper community, respect, and teaching the reality of the human experience so that people can be the best they can be.
Is it because they know that Russian porn is better than American porn?
Accountwalled
Thank god, I can still jerk it to women's feet.
I remember this interview with pornstars before Trump’s first term where they were asked who they are going to vote for. Many said they were going to vote for Trump because “he a gud biznidmyan” and only voted for him for the tax cut. I hope they got what they voted for cuz they need that extra cash.
(. Y .) FUCK MIKE LEE
Krasnov and his thugs thinking like the fucking CCP.
thinking like the fucking CCP.
Even the CCP has some upsides. Kras' trying to burn it all down himself
This pairs well with having to provide proof of age to browse to porn sites. Like fava beans with a nice chianti.
Do it, cowards.
all the onlyfans workers need to join in from g spot to make G Force and flex some of that wealth if they want to keep that vector of wealth alive.
How's Donald going to get off then? It's not as if he can go to his wife.
What world are you living in, cuz it sure ain’t the one the rest of us inhabit. You try fucking a bunch of people you’ve never met on camera and try telling me it isn’t work.
I don't really care what you think, tbh
To those weebs, who voted Trump, because "the transes" were mean to you for the loli hentai: this is on you!
Yeah…. I’m going to miss my dirty novels from the library. I was expecting this one….
And no more plastic bags! Idiots
Listen here, William… I know you’re new around here…
They don't intend to ban anything. They're just creating reasons to lock people up.
They are, to a man, insane authoritarian shitbags. All they care about is control.
That is the pragmatic and short term outcome, but I would not discount the level of power hard-line Christian nationalists have over the far right. Many of them believe "moral degeneracy" like porn is the most grave problem of western society and would be glad to "correct" it given the chance.
Please don't drag the insane down to this level. This is planned and intentional (even if there is factional opposition)
It is.
We need more media to take advantage of the SCP Foundation. Movies, games, etc. Give the authors credit. Pay them. Because there's a whole lot of great stuff there.
SCP-001 "When Day Breaks" would make an incredible horror movie.