Hope you like socialism
Hope you like socialism
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And linux!
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I mean, Linux (and the entire ecosystem) is a fundamentally socialist concept.
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And my axe!
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And my sword!
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...and Linux.
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Linux, as a tool explictly designed to empower the masses, is socialist.
This is only partially a joke.
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I mean… software is the means of production and FOSS is controlled by the people
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and eating the billionaires
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Omnom.
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I'm not into cannibalism but I can definitely prep them for you.
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And Star Trek
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They already said posts about socialism!
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Which has killed more people then even communism!
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My partner has been insinuating that I'm a communist recently. I don't think I'm a communist, I simply want to seize the means of production for the people.
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Doesn't that make you a communist?
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You sound just like my partner.
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Don't forget to seize the means of computation to stop enshittification.
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I realize we’re inherently not capitalistic platform because everyone has the access to own their portion. Pretty cool imo and not to toot the horn for the millionth time, it definitely seems like the future of the internet
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I mean, I dunno. It's been the "future of the internet" since the 90's, but nobody can solve the fundamental problems with such systems existing in the actual real material world, so we just get hit with an ever dwindling supply of larger and larger social media monopolies. Same as it ever was.
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I mean... It's one of the reasons I like it so much here.
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good. kind of like an anti twitter.
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The socialists must flee what was formerly known as Twitter, now under the control of a totalitarian fascist regime ruled by a mad dictator, or face extermination, and are now refugees wherever they ended up on the Internet
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You are gonna love Mastodon
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NZ? I hope I could go someday.
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Didn't he go to jail for sex crimes?
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Oh God
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You don't need to sell it to me, I already love it.
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What's wrong with socialism? I like socialism.
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I want to seize the means of production as much as the next guy but it gets kinda boring after a while if that's the only content available
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Sometimes there are cats! That's always fun! Some of those cats want socialism too, but they're still cats!
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It doesnt get boring hearing about how judges demolish bodily autonomy of women and commit other atrocities in the name of corporate freedom.
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If this was memes@lemmy.ml you would've been banned for this comment
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I'm just sick of the fucking tankies telling me World War 3 will finally give us workers rights.
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They claim both sides are equally as bad while ignoring the fact that their side has never even been tested. Therefore they have no fucking clue that they wouldn’t be worse.
Shill Stein has already been outed, West is an incompetent blowhard and only shows up ever four years to suggest impractical and irrelevant nonsense,
And JFK….
The Green Party is essential a giant spoiler campaign.
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When you grow that third arm the production will increase by half by default...
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Nine times out of ten it’s incorrectly defined by idealists that haven’t figured out that a fair amount of American sociological and economic standards are already steeped in socialist services, and the rest of the rhetoric that defines socialism would absolutely fail if attempted in America.
In short, nine times out of ten, a socialist has absolutely no fucking idea what they’re talking about, but just parroting smug bullshit that they think makes them look edgy and educated.
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a fair amount of American sociological and economic standards are already steeped in socialist services
If you believe this to be true then you don't understand what socialism actually is. You seem to be of the mind that any publicly funded service or welfare is socialist, and I don't blame you for thinking this since it is what the mainstream American political discourse would have you believe.
In short, nine times out of ten, a socialist has absolutely no fucking idea what they’re talking about, but just parroting smug bullshit that they think makes them look edgy and educated.
When you say this immediately after demonstrating that you actually have no idea what you're talking about it's a pretty bad look. People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
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Drag thinks the means of production should be owned by the workers. Drag is curious why you think the American workers own "a fair amount" of the means of production.
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Or they are arguing against democracy
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socialism itself is just, kinda weird. From a philosophical perspective it makes sense and has clear distinctions. But from a practical view it's just sort of. Capitalism but if it was more confusing for some reason. If you go too far into one direction, it's just communism, and that's not socialism, obviously. The other direction and it's literally just capitalism, so it has to sit in this weird space between where you can't engage with the best parts of capitalism (or it just weirdly handicaps parts of capitalism) and communism.
and then of course you've got people (probably grifters) like hasan piker who claim to be socialist while having millions of dollars, but doing literally nothing with it, because investing it wouldn't be socialist, and you can't really just give it away, because well, it's a lot of money. I mean you could, but it's also just, sort of redundant at that point.
Realistically he should be investing that money into a lot of different things, increasing returns on revenues, and creating a content creator collective or something silly like that, but to my knowledge he hasn't probably because he's either stupid or lazy. I don't blame him for either of those things though.
socialism, particularly modern western socialism that's based on capital needs a fundamental proof of concept work-through before we can really do anything with it, i think.
Capitalism, while it has problems, it at least makes sense on a fundamental human perspective. I own things, you own things, we own things, that also applies to capital as well. It's so fundamentally tied to the human experience and history that it's just sort of hard to deviate from. Even china does a lot of capitalism.
man that was much longer than i anticipated. Apologies in retrospective lol.
Anyway for the second part of the admittedly very old and dead joke by this point in the post. It's a meme about socialism on the internet. (particularly a farther left space on the internet)
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Ahem, this is a community
What did you expect?
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I just hate how it is vilified when we literally freely give billions in taxpayer monies to oil companies.
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To be fair, we are not the ones making those decisions, the Bourgeoisie is.
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Indeed, corporate socialism and the search for deregulation, self-regulation and cheap labor.
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Not to be pedantic, but "corporate socialism" isn't a thing, that's just Capitalism as it monopolizes.
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Actually the first one is lemmy.world users confusing corporate centrists for socialism
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He's right tho
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And vegan drama that you really don't want to get involved in.
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I unfortunately learned the vegan community here is largely hexbears, made the fatal mistake of commenting on a post there (as a vegetarian)
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Yeah I used to follow the vegan group cos I like tips on vege eating but I had to quit cos the meat eater hatred was just too much
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Throughout history, the most unimaginable pain and punishments have been issued by the fanatical unto the only very slightly less fanatical.
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I follow a flexitarian diet and they've always been polite and welcoming to me.
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It hasn't really been my experience here. Yeah there is some.
Have you tried being less aimless at what you subscribe here? Do you come here because you want to connect with information, or just mindlessly doom scroll and consume?
If you're not intentional about your social media tools, you will have a bad time.
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Lemmy.world is defederated from the major Marxist instances, so that filters out a lot of discussion about Socialism.
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Actually I find that it allows more range of Socialism strains to be discussed. A lot of Marxists tend to look rather poorly at any mixed Socialism blends as either heretical or as liminal states with Communism as a complete end goal instead of being legitimate in their own right.
Where ever Marxism tends to particularly flourish erasure of a lot of other Socialist philosophy tends to be the norm. Socialism is a big range of different veiws of how publicly held and private property domains intermix with a lot of foundational philosophy some of which pre-dates or were contemporaries of Marx. Marx may have coined the term but it's important to remember that when he was writing his work there were specific peers in his feild that some of it was directed at who he was sort of in agreement with and sort of not. Many wholeheartedly adopted his term for the broad stroke of their own philosophy even though they would later be at loggerheads about details. Later in life Marx really did not get along with other prominent Socialists of his era. Those who subscribe very heavily to his text tend to follow his tradition of being very dismissive of other Socialist strains and rather combative because the text is very fiery and segments well into calls for violence
If one wants to go talk Marxism the other instances are always there and are generally better venues. It's valuable to have spaces that have differences so that other schools of political thought have air. As far as Marxists here go, since having a group that usually denies others the very words they use to self identify by, demanding they be called illegitimate, sucks all the air from the room they are generally not particularly welcome in the space unless they demonstrate they can play nice with others.
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It's a shame they can't see you defending the guy calling for the death of all americans ='[
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Though half of it is complaining about capitalism.
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Half socialism, half complaining about capitalism, half linux, and half startrek memes.
Although, now that I think about it, the linux and startrek halves are often just a part of the socialism half.
So, I guess the original point stands. Socialism all the way down.
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Political Memes is socialist?
I literally blocked it because it's just liberals pretending to be socialist.
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I was banned from there for "misinformation" when I explained MLK's position on moderates and linked his letter from Birmingham jail.
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A guy on there told me that I should thank liberals for the Civil Rights Act, and when I pointed to the letter from A Birmingham Jail, his response was, "and yet they passed the Civil Rights Act a year later. Curious, no?" Like...yeah dumbass, because actual progressives kept pressuring them publicly, like King did in the Birmingham letter.
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Uh...Political Memes on .world is not socialist. Much more of a, "vote blue, no matter who," and, "but her emails," vibe over there.
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I don't think they have many buttery males.
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you know I do wonder if, out there, all those right-wing instances that we're de-federated with are sharing this same meme but in reverse...
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Real talk - lemmy’s mod tools blow, and the only way to combat this shit is if more people volunteer to help keep an eye on the report inbox.
So if you see a community that is struggling to address reports in a timely way, they’ll likely appreciate anyone that offers to help mod.
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There are right wing Lemmy instances? Wild.. And by the sound of it, Gross.
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Is there an article about this defederation with the people who we likely should be engaging in discourse?
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Left-wing instances were defederated preemptively, as a last resort because the admins feared they would “dismantle western propaganda”. Right-wing instances were defederated after they wouldn't moderate their users posting CSAM, gore, and nazi shit.
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They aren't always defederated. Most users can still use conservative@lemm.ee, but most don't bother because absolutely nothing ever gets through to the conservative users of that community no matter what sources or evidence to support arguments are used. It's like talking to a brick wall. Some of the users like MomoTimetoDie are outright hostile.
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10/10 ragebait
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Not sure what you're talking about. Since the summer it's just been post about Dems and how Republicans are weirdos. Honestly, the socialist presence on Lemmy is lacking.
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Sounds like you need to diversify your Lemmy subs honestly lmao.
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I subscribe to nothing. I just browse the local and global feeds.
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in my defense, politics brings out the stupid in everyone, and i love that.
It's not my fault people aren't spending time over arguing about whether some stupid is game is better than some other stupid game. Do better.
/s (sort of)
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Sub to for example !mylittlepony@lemmy.world
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The Linux crew is going to be cheesed
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As a Mutualist Linux user I concur.
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I wouldn’t have it any other way.
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Thank God I like socialism
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ITT: Lemmy's biggest circle-jerk to date.
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Idk, I think the vegan pets thing was pretty far up the list.
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Bro, I would love of the posts were actually about socialism and not just campist brain rot.
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posts about science
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I've been blocking political communities, so I don't get so much of this. I would recommend you also block communities that annoy you. We're in the same boat of browsing by top X hours.
Solarpunk doesn't really bug me though because it's (supposed to be) more about the good that could be rather than complaining about what is. (Don't get me wrong, complaints can be valid, but that's not what I come to Lemmy for.)
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Seems like the Internet is just circle jerks these days
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These days?
Internet is a reflection of human nature, we've been doing this for millenia, we can just access specific bubbles of groupthink far faster and more efficiently than ever before. The internet has been like this since people first started typing their thoughts and opinions where other connected people could see them.
Our problem isn't groupthink and bubbles of circle-jerking, our problem is our lack of attention-span and lack of patience, qualities that used to let us communicate and compromise with each other, now we're all too brain-rotted to even form romantic relationships, too drained to try to even engage with people who don't think the same way.
It's fine that communities circle-jerk, sometimes those even become wildly successful movements in society. What's not fine is we're all so used to fucking scrolling that we don't make effort past that circle-jerking anymore.
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How come it's never a triangular jerk?
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puts down atheism pamphlet
...later, we will find you and tell you god isn't real.
Did you ask?
It never mattered. We were going to tell you anyway.
edit: someone is following around all of my comments and downvoting like a little toddler. Hi, tiny man!
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Our whole-ass society is structured around Christian norms. Holidays, liquor laws, businesses closing on Sunday, loads of idioms and turns-of-phrase, it is pervasive and so normalized that any deviance is seen as shocking. (At least we aren't one of the countries where heresy is still an actual crime)
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While not tying it to religion, I think it's desirable that workers have and can afford two consecutive days off from work, that can and should be worked around personal preference as much as possible.
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True, gets a bit tiring when you come to relax with some memes and people are preaching about politics.
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Memers of the world unite!
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I've seen more Commies on here than anything else.
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Marxism is the most developed and popular strain of Socialism, historically and globally, so it makes sense.
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Dot world bans socialist servers just fyi
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Believe it or not, socialists don't universally self-segregate onto the socialist instances.
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The ones that do are banned by your (fed)erated server
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World is more socialist than the defederated infamous ones
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Can you explain? They outright defederate from explicitly Marxist instances.
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False
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Eh, beats fascism, I guess. The far-left people are just as bad though... That echo chamber makes the conservative safe spaces back on Reddit look wild and free.
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The far-left is the furthest possible environment from an echo chamber imaginable. We literally can’t stop arguing with eachother over the smallest details. I’m far left and my first instinct when reading your comment was to be annoyed and offended that you lumped me in with some other group that considers itself far-left but I just consider to be wrong.
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you lumped me in with some other group that considers itself far-left but I just consider to be wrong.
That is not my experience at all, I've had almost no issues at all with anarchists and even confused social democrats and libertarians IRL. People who live in the imperial core, claim to be the left, but spend their time going after actual leftists are fundamentally unserious.
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I'm learning that this place is like the wish.com version of reddit. It's still full of liberal cucks.
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LemmyWorld/PoliticalMemes, the community which bans people who say something bad about Kamala Harris? National Socialism is a bit different.
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Oh, come on. You know as well as anyone else why you get banned from so many communities and it's not because you criticized a politician. Trolling and bad faith arguments aren't welcome in most communities.
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As mod of !memes@slrpnk.net yer God damn right... Kinda. Most of us are anarchist, or left leaning for sure.
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Then there is ml and lemmygrad. They lean on something, I know that at least.
New users accidentally posting on those instances is kinda fun to watch, TBH. It's like Lemmy's version of hazing I suppose.
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Blocking hexbear and lemmy.ml no joke removes 95% of shitposting and socialism/communism spamming. Should be done by default. Just block any overly political sub tbh.
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I'm not sure why you are getting down voted. I think it is a fair statement to say that a lot of that stuff comes from the far left part of Lemmy. The sad part is I have been seeing a lot of it now coming from Lemmy world
For all of those political evangelicals out there I could could care less about your political views. I just want to use Lemmy in peace.
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I think every time a big leftist instance gets defederated, its users leave and move towards more mainstream instances. I remember lemmy.ml used to be somewhat neutral a year or so ago (I got banned there so here I am now on lemmy.world).
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You would think, you would really think, that a platform built on federation and being inherently anti-censorship would have some resistance against becoming an echo chamber.
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If the people interested in a platform that is based on equal access with ownership by many people rather than being subject to one corporate overlord tend to be more socialist, that should not surprise anyone.
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Trending toward socialism I can see. Actively attacking anyone who isn't vegan I cannot see.
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You forgot to mention the bear.
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More like cockroaches
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Hi, yes, sorry I'm late. I'm here.
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Is this a theleftcantmeme post?
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Honestly most of Lemmy is like this
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Yea, but we have many different flavours of socialism, the last one is solar punk and it’s rad!
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Solarpunk is more of an aesthetic than an actual strain of Socialism.
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Oh, really?!! But… how about posts about …socialism?!!
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also beans
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So you’re saying that socialists are just a bunch of thugs that couldn’t come up with a coherent argument for socialism?
Yep, checks out.
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Hell yesssss
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And Steven!
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Linux
Reddit bad
Am I doing it right?
Overthrow the bougoisie
Cook the bolognese...
There's also the part that is into crushing with a tank people who don't hate the USA more than anything in the universe.
I have trouble spelling that word, too.
dont forget star trek
And beans, for some reason.
And the germans
Linux, reddit bad, socialism and star trek are alright. The bean thing I don't get. Never am I gonna spend energy learning about it either.
I recall that being a thing on Reddit too for a bit.. Just the internet doing its thing. People like random shit - it all gud.
bears eat beets. Bears, beets, "Battlestar Galactica."
Beans!
You forgot the 100 comment posts on anything mozilla does
I use Arch, btw
I mean in one way. Yes, you're fitting in and in another way - Stop talking about Reddit
Not enough blaming capitalism for problems which have nothing to do with capitalism.
Say Windows bad as well. We're not allowed to use Windows for some reason... I use it, and I'm not sorry, but I really don't care about internet doots.
Dear windows users