Married people, where do you land?

"I don't care that it's in the shape of a whale!" is now my new favorite phrase and I now plan on 3D printing that to hang on my wall

Reading the fucking manuals, no less!

if you put sweet baby rays on a $50 cut of steak

Monster!

Grabs Heinz 57

Hey I’m the good cook husband with a car problem too.

My wife never wanted to help cook though, she loves that I take it on by myself most times.

And I get the kitchen mostly to myself (though I’m sharing it with my son more now, which is slower, but pretty fun).

The best explanation I've heard for it, which also dips into the why, is:

Once upon a time, there was the patriarchy. For men, this meant they had the purpose of being the breadwinner, for the price of massive mental health issues, since they were never allowed to show weakness.
Nonetheless, a whole culture and identity evolved surrounding this struggle, with beards and alcohol and it being totally not an expression of missing personal closeness cool to have sex with lots of women.

Then came along feminism with the ultimate goal of fixing this. It didn't intend to take anything away from men, but it kind of requires allowing women to also be breadwinners, which slims down the purpose of men.
Suddenly, it's potentially not enough to bring home money, you need to help out in the household and not be a complete mental health wreck. You need to be able to show weakness.

And while this is great for many men, it's also where a lot of men get kind of left behind. They've lost their manly identity or their breadwinner purpose.

And that's where the whole mansophere stuff comes in.
People telling you everything is exactly like 50 years ago, and you should be wearing a beard and drinking alcohol and having sex with lots of women.
In a weird sense, this is good for men. But the whole community is also massively misogynistic, and blaming feminism rather than appreciating it as a potential proper solution, and of course, you've got right-wing "thoughtleaders", i.e. white dudes with microphones, to round it all of.
We desperately need better solutions for these men.

Fuck you, those can be hobbies! drains shot

One of my hobbies is “drinking”. I love craft cocktails and craft beer. I collect craft liquors and share them with my friends. I even make my own cider and beer sometimes. Maybe home brewing doesn’t fall into the “drinking” hobby as much.

Apparently so is porn and traveling, so I guess it's a pretty inclusive list.

Why are you constantly doing it if it's not fun for you?

Wait.... So the fact that I walk 5 miles a day means that I go on a hike every day?

I actually have a bias against the forest hikes. Had a gf that loved going on nature walks. I probably wouldn't have hated them so much if smartphones had existed back then, but nope just flip phones.

That means that of all the stuff on top, I don't do gardening, or travelling..... Mostly.

Yes. One of my coworkers has done exactly that.

Yeah you can easily set up a home forge.

They probably thought it was referring to spherical man butts

Yes, because you need to be rich to do that.

I think it's more of what kind of people women are imagining as a blacksmith. They're probably imagining a rugged man in their 30s/40s with practical muscle definition and enough financial stability to have the time/land for their own personal forge.

Likewise Travelling is just a proxy for "a ton of disposable income, and willing to take their partner to nice places".

What's with the anti blacksmithing sentiment? Most people just find someone's genuine passion to be an attractive quality, wherever their interests lie.

My wife loved the idea that I was into wood cutting. What she didn't realize was when I said woodcutting, I meant I studied the blade and practiced chopping wood with my anime sword.

I wonder if hobbies here may mean what people talk about primarily, because some aren't hobbies unless it's all you do or something. Like arguing online.

yeah aint no way that hollering hag is that high.

You absolute tool noone wants to argue online, why should anyone engage in an inrelevant time wasting discussion???

Way ahead of you. I already play the triangle at an expert level, and am native-speaker fluent in both English, and Busted English.

Italian and guitar. Working so far

They actually have internalized misogyny.

according to women. Says so right in the graph title!

/s

I'm not sure how the survey was phrased to participants, but to me a "hobby" is a regular thing someone does, as their way to pass the time/have fun. I've smoked before and have no problem with it, but I do think I would find it less attractive for it to be someone's hobby, as opposed to an occasional social thing they do.

Similarly I have no problem with people watching porn, but if it's gone far enough for it to be considered their hobby, then that is less attractive to me, which also matches the chart.

I might be misunderstanding the word hobby, but so might many of the survey participants.

It's mostly the "hobby" bit, which implies that this is one of your favorite, regular free-time activities. If you are someone who smokes weed a few times a year in social situations, that is a different situation.

A lot of people would find it difficult to be around someone who spends their time smoking unless they are really into it too. The smell especially can be really grating/annoying, and the person smoking often doesn't realize because they have become smell-blind over time (similar to tobacco smokers).

In my sphere, very few people use it. And it is mostly frowned upon. Primarily, if it's smoked. It's regarded as crude, and gross. I'd say edibles are more accepted, but you don't talk really talk about it.

The majority of women on this earth will permanently lose her ability to like or respect a man if she ever perceives him as being too feminine. The definition of "being too feminine" varies from woman to woman but often includes crying, expressing any emotion other than anger, wearing makeup, driving a sedan, any number of fashion things, having or liking cats, liking or caring for children, so and and so forth.

I remember back in high school or college, around the time the first three Pirates of the Caribbean movies were coming out and Johnny Depp was America's heart throb, I knew exactly two girls who specifically said they liked the eye shadow he was wearing. Relatedly, I've worn my hair long a few times in my life, and those specific two girls liked playing with my hair. Most of the rest of the women I've ever been with didn't really want much to do with it.

Why is makeup so low? To me that’s super attractive if a guy likes wearing makeup because it shows that he is secure in his masculinity and probably isn’t a misogynistic asshole, but maybe I’m just into feminine men?

i really hate makeup, it's nothing other than an artistic expression of what you think you look good as.

which if you want to do it, i'm not stopping you i have better things to care about. But it's also not that deep, there is no connection between men wearing makeup and being secure in their masculinity, there is a connection between men who won't wear makeup because it's bad for their masculinity and their insecurity in masculinity.

I feel like this is like saying "men who shave their faces are secure in their masculinity"