Maybe I deserved that. But come to my house we will play some groovy bongo rhythms and I'm sure you will have a good time.

Great question. It turns out protesting doesn't seem to have that much effect, unless a lot more people participate.

I mostly posted my rant just to be contrary, but I still feel like there is something erroneous to this argument, even tho you do make it seem clear and sensible.

I offer Japan as an example: the whole country is very neat, tidy and orderly. People know that if you see garbage, or something out of place, you put it where it belongs. People take the personal responsibility to clean up after themselves very seriously, and willingly clean up after eachother. As it was explained to me, 'If you're the first person to see it, then you are the person to take care of it."

So you would expect this baseline indication of ethical behavior to translate into other domains. Surprisingly, people who as a group score very well on this test of self-regulation and ethical behavior seem to have a systemic problem with violence, sexual abuse and sexual harassment against women. https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2017/3/8/sexual-assault-in-japan-every-girl-was-a-victim

It could be that individuals not putting things away is a sign of a deeper societal issue, but group/individual fastidiousness doesn't seem to generalize to broader ethical adherence.

Maybe there is a mistake somewhere in my thinking.

Nope, I don't buy it.

• An estimated one out of every 500 Americans is homeless
• Unarmed noncombatant civilian women and children are being bombed, shot, and starved to death.
• There has been a nearly 70% reduction in wild vertebrates worldwide since 1970
• The leading cause of death among children and teens in america is firearms

Privileged westerners could do something about these things, but they are sipping their pumpkin spice lattes and congratulating each other for putting their shopping carts back because, you know, it's the ultimate test of moral righteousness. Ugh.

I got the top 5 of the attractive list and only arguing online from the other list, so I think that's cancelled out.

Edit: checked with wife, she says graph is accurate.

I guess I can't argue with that. I thought he was a "strong leader" but it turns out he's not in charge of anything? Ok.

That's is just barely close to what actually happened.

Well that's is my interpretation of what I heard happened. If you were there I'd be glad to hear what you saw.

Well I wonder how many servicemen think "It doesn't matter, I don't care," vs. those who feel such actions are a sharp reminder that some people have a deep disregard for the traditions and institutions that shaped our nation, and dont care at all for the lives lost in defence of our republic.

If someone reportedly said those who lost their lives in war were "suckers" and "losers" we might wonder if those words were actually spoken or not. Supposedly said to a widow, "he knew what he signed up for". Now when that same person and his team show an absolute lack of respect for the solemnity and sanctity of our national military cemetery, the picture becomes more clear.

Is this what conservatives are voting for?

https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/29/politics/us-army-rebukes-trump-campaign-arlington-incident/index.html

I'm getting really damn tired of having a choice between the conservative party cosplaying as liberals and the fascist party cosplaying as conservatives.

damn straight.

I think intelligence/personality are about even for me. I think I would not have rejected my wife if she were average intelligence, but the fact that she has a science background, and the quick way she thinks are part of the package that I fell for. So I will say very important, but not the most important.

Woke liberal transgender marxists who hate America try to destroy Entergy Louisiana and put hapless shareholders into the poorhouse!

Thank you for your service.

Edit: I was going to try to add to the comedy but I feel like it's not actually funny. I get the irony, but I started thinking how I'd feel if I had a family member or friend that died in such a dumb way.

Well he's in the arms of Jesus now. If there's any lesson here it's use a damn holster, people, and take your safety training seriously.

You guys are making jokes but we can all be grateful he died free with his 2nd amendment rights intact. GOD BLESS AMERICA!

Ok, but there like it used to be was better than there is now, and if here could be like there used to be now it would be better than there is now and its my opinion that if here now was like there then it would be slightly better than here is now and I don't think thats too much to wish for.

Well it seems there's a plan to take the white house no matter what the election results may be:

https://hartmannreport.com/p/the-new-over-the-top-secret-plan-518?sort=new

It kind of worries me that this could actually happen and people would be like, "Aw shucks, I guess there's nothing we can do."

I grew up in a very conservative neighborhood in a very conservative town and went to a very conservative religious school. There was no sex-ed but there was a class on hygiene. There was no dancing but there was a "banquet" at which they served rice pilaf and rubbery chicken breast from a steam table.

There was never any mention of gay people, trans, intersex or anything else except that sex was reserved for a man and a woman after they were married.

The only exception to the above is the mention of eunuchs by Jesus in Matt 19:22. But what is a eunuch? I was told it was a person who had their genitals cut off and lived a life of celibacy.

Based on my experience alone, I would say that a common conservative attitude and policy is to ignore, deny and/or never acknowledge anything that's not straight man+woman married for the purpose of having children.

In the case of the boxing woman, it's interesting to think that if you only have two categories and you have to put her into one, some people put her in one category and some the other, but there doesn't seem (to me) to be any clear objective way to tell which is right. This could be an indication that there really are more than 2 genders.

Or it could be that a cisgender woman of color whose body doesn't conform to fascist eugenic purity standards is being targeted because she's a better boxer than the white women and well, racism.

The neurotypical flattening of self expression always was a tyranny, you just normalized it.

I chef kiss this sentence.

I'm voting Harris, for all the reasons outlined in this thread, but damn it chaps my hide that this is like the trolley problem where the trolly will go down the 100% evil track unless you pull the lever to go down the %25 less evil track. Everybody in here seems to think we shouldn't want a better track, it's just not practical or possible to do anything better.

Is nobody else here frustrated that the only alternative we have to the orange fascist is a prosecutor that put countless brothers and sister into the racist for-profit prison system for having weed? This is the alternative that progressives are excited about?

I read a line somewhere -I forget where- but it was something to the effect that always voting for the lesser of two evils means getting the second worst possible america. Are y'all so pragmatic that wanting anything other than the second worst america is automatically interpreted as a bot, or a Russian troll, or a stupid college kid in a Che t-shirt that only wants to endlessly critique?