Gunshots reportedly fired at Donald Trump rally - as former president rushed off stage
Gunshots reportedly fired at Donald Trump rally - as former president rushed off stage
Video clip: https://x.com/Acyn/status/1812249329203286464
Holy shit, he had blood on his ear? If that’s true, he was about a foot away from assassination. That’s wild.
Edit: saw a picture of him and he was def hit in the ear. We won’t hear the end of this for a long time. “Radical democrats are so scared that I’m going to win” etc
Edit 2: let’s do count of “how many push notifications does the news junkie get?” I’m at 3 4 7 so far. Edit: it’s a lot more than 7 but I’m done counting
He put his hand up to his ear before he went down and you can see blood on his face when Secret Service took him away. Whoever it was missed him by that much.
Nobody in the crowd was hit with anything it seemed, so I don't think he was shot. If anything, the secret service takedown probably did whatever it was. He's never going to stfu about this. Wouldn't be surprised if this was staged.
It looks like a chunk of his ear is blown off. Fucking insane!
Not like he ever listened to anyone anyway.
Best photo I could find, caution, blood.
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I don't see any chunk missing.
In the video you can see him lifting the hand to the ear after the first bang
He wasn't shot. Pure publicity stunt. Same shit as WrestleMania.
did the attenders draw their guns and stop the assasin?
More likely someone fired at him in celebration in those rallies.
just saw the news at it was kinda wierd. did not seem like anyone behind him got hit and he was hit in the ear and pumped his fist after ward. They said metal detectors are used so sounds like a sniper type thing. I sorta think they likely would figure out the origin. I wonder if they have him or are after them but don't want to update yet.
This is just going to further guarantee his victory. It's fucking over. This country is done.
That's my gut reaction too. It's done. That fucking photo where Trump stood up and did the fist pump with the blood on his face and the American flag in the background:
There's no beating that. That's literally like a movie poster. Whether Biden stays or goes, I really don't think it matters now.
Also as an aside, I don't mean this as a compliment to Trump. I think he's a raging piece of shit and I hope he loses. But it's elections are all about perception and I really don't see Biden doing anything to top this.
You said it better than I could have done myself. It is time to start preparing the resistance now. Civil disobedience is the only way forward.
Sounds pretty dramatic. With the new cycle the way it is, it will be forgotten in a month.
[X] DOUBT
You know these are the people who still claim he won in 2020, right?
It's horrifying that our best hope is that a MAGA nutter kills Biden in retaliation and Harris wins in a landslide because of it.
Ah yes, I wanted to vote blue, but now that the felon's ear got shot, I'll vote for the fashists.
This is US politics and it makes sense.
No, it's more like:
"I wasn't going to vote because I don't care about or follow politics. Now I see they are trying to kill this guy so I am going to vote for him because clearly the powers that be want him gone. So, he must be doing something to fight the system like JFK."
Nobody who was going to vote Dem is changing their vote. It's all the people who weren't going to vote that now will because they either think he is badass for surviving an assassination attempt, or because of the web of new conspiracy narratives that are sure to be born from this that further serve to frame Trump as the savior of the common man from the clutches of the evil deep state.
I don't see it, the lines have been firmly drawn for years. The maga crowd will vote for him regardless of anything and the rest of us wouldn't piss on him to put out a fire.
From abroad, for the love of everything please go vote. Everything in the US seems to leak out and global warming is well, global.
Damn this is worst case dude is going to be made a maytr for this bs.
If only he were a martyr from this, but he survived. You have to die to be a martyr.
That distinction won't matter to him or his followers.
Stop saying "he'll be a martyr."
This gets touted any time any consequence could come to him. Saying this makes it a lose lose situation. Either we let him get away and do whatever or "he's a martyr." No. He reaps whatever consequences come to him for his actions. It shouldn't come as an assassination, but he has to have some consequence for what he does.
Is it bad that... Given everything going on with 25 and the SCOTUS ruling I consider this attempted assassination patriotic?
I wonder how Trump's public image will change after this event. Will the MAGA crowd radicalise even more? Or will he have to drop out of the presidential race for safety concerns?
Either way, the aftermath will be interesting.
Radicalize. Every time.
Trump's going to milk him being a victim and come out looking like he's super tough and cheated death. Nothing could have been better for the Trump campaign than a failed assassination attempt in which Trump was hit and survived practically fine. I think things are about to get pretty bad. This is terrible terrible news for the country.
This is worse than terrible. Now Trump gets to play martyr and it rallies up his base, even the ones who were in doubt after his conviction.
And as the chaos ensues, Putin is laughing at his throne.
Yep. Absolutely fucked.
May you live in interesting times.
Come on, bruh. He’s their god king.
interesting more insane
Well, public rallies will be a no-no.
I love how this is a "heinous act" even though the dipshit in charge of 25 basically said theyd kill the left if they were against them
Worthless asshole just gave him the election.
He should've practiced more
Grand.
I wonder what the shooter’s politics are.
Liberal: commie assassin
Conservative or other: oh, just mentally ill.
E: shot looked like it came from the left. I wonder if the shooter was outside the rally area at a distance. Anybody else hit?
I saw a video where they panned to the right, and it looked like a hydraulic line on a nearby lift was hit.
It's about 15 seconds into this video
https://x.com/The_Nomad_News/status/1812252572755144900?t=AJ3ZsQZ50WBWWh7pF0vnew&s=19
Hydraulic lift was the most innocent bystander of all.
Maybe having so many guns in this country is a bad thing.
Assassinating problematic politicians that want to be a king is sort of the point of the 2nd amendment.
Violence begets violence, and Trump is responsible for no shortage of violence. Is this for the violence of Jan 6, or the violence against the women in his life, or some other time? I want to find out.
Biden's official statement:
He's in a video conference now.
"I have been briefed on the shooting at Donald Trump’s rally in Pennsylvania.
I’m grateful to hear that he’s safe and doing well. I’m praying for him and his family and for all those who were at the rally, as we await further information.
Jill and I are grateful to the Secret Service for getting him to safety. There’s no place for this kind of violence in America. We must unite as one nation to condemn it."
Ugh. Why can't we just get one win?
NYT photographer got the photo of the bullet, it seems that TMZ's reporting that it was glass from the teleprompter is not correct:
Well that certainly blows up any argument it was staged. You don't fake shoot a real bullet past your fake targets head.
That isolated tweet with the pic doesn’t claim to be from NYT or a NYT photographer. I’ve never heard of this “spectator index”. Here is the AP collection of photos from the event.
If I do assume that’s a bullet, let’s test if the size of the streak makes sense. A bullet travels at about 750m/s. That streak (using Trump’s head for scale) is about 50cm long, or 1/2 meter. A 750 m/s bullet travels 1/2 meter in 1/1500 seconds. When you consider projection effects (we might not be looking with a line-of-sight perpendicular to the bullet’s trajectory), we expect the length and time used in my above calculations to be lower bounds, with the true answer probably being within about a factor of 3 of that bound. This means that this image only makes sense as a bullet if the shutter speed is between 1/1500 and 1/500 seconds. That lines up with this website’s recommendation of 1/1000 second exposure time for bright outdoor shots.
Either a very good fake that considered the kinematics, or this is a real image of the bullet.
Looks like the bullet grazed his ear. He was about to get Kennedy'd.
(I hate the source, F this guy) but here’s him being ushered off the stage after… https://x.com/stillgray/status/1812250467071885730
Edit: his base is going to be insanely fired up now. I’m genuinely scared about what’s going to happen now. I can see it already “the deep state tried to stop him and God saved Trump!” ugh.
The potential for backfire is massive. Of course in our timeline, Trump gets grazed in the ear. Stop teasing us.
Can't wait for the amped up christian nationalism...
When he yells "fight", what does he mean to fight for? Fight against freedom? I wonder the same thing when it comes to Qbert and Empty-G. Fight? What are they fighting for, exactly? More tax cuts for billionaires? More special privileges for xtians?
I was told today that someone we know is going to vote for donnie - because "economy". What. The. Actual. Fuck. They said that the economy was better under donnie. I just can't even. And this is someone that will be a target under fascist rule.
There it is again, that funny feeling…
Is it that feeling of being in the lead of up of the scary times?
I feel it in my gut
Everything is fine.
Has me wondering if this was an attempt to start a race war, like a bunch of past mass shootings, attempts to knock out power by shooting transformers, etc.
Who knows. Someone that would take it upon themselves to do something like this could have all kinds of flawed thought processes, as well as mental illness.
I mean, the Republicans have a habit of constantly casting each other out for various forms of apostasy, real or imagined, and declaring the apostate a "RINO". With the way they talk about non-Republicans, that unperson is then a lower lifeform not worthy of empathy...if that's the kind of thing that led to this, it wouldn't be that surprising, I guess. I mean, look at how they view Liz Cheney. Liz. Cheney.
"The FBI identified Thomas Matthew Crooks, 20, of Bethel Park, Pa., as the suspected shooter at former president Donald Trump’s rally. The FBI, which called the attack an assassination attempt, said it was trying to determine his motive and asked the public to come forward with anything they know about Crooks. The shooter was killed. Crooks was a registered Republican, according to the state’s voter status records."
It requires registration, not payment. And it clearly says he is a registered republican.
This should seal the deal on Biden dropping out of the race. His odds of winning already weren’t good, and now he’s completely lost control of the popular narrative.
The assassination attempt will be all everyone’s talking about until something extremely big replaces it. The only possible story that can shift people’s focus is Biden’s deeply patriotic decision to sacrifice his second term for the good of the country.
Devise a framework where negative ads are not allowed, and debates are civil and informative to the public. Find the best candidate the old fashioned way.
seriously, at this point the Democrats have got to do something bold. the combined trajectories of this election and the country are not promising.
edit to say... my bold move would be:
don't know how they deal with delegate votes for a nominee, but the dems have to take over the news cycle and keep the focus on them with at least the veneer of something vagely democratic and energizing, otherwise I think we get king klepto-fascist.
this is likely a pipe dream and I am going to shut up now.
Exactly. Trump threw out the playbook and won. Biden got by with old politics and won, but it’s not going to happen again. Not after today.
The Democrats need to finally establish a cohesive identity. Introduce someone who can tell you what voting Democrat will deliver for your family.
And maybe please involve James Carville in the process. He consistently has his finger on the pulse of economic issues, which are what actually matter right now for “swing voters.”
TMZ is reporting the bullet struck Trump's teleprompter and the shattered glass hit him in the ear.
https://www.tmz.com/2024/07/13/donald-trump-appear-shot-pennsylvania-rally-president-election/
The world needs thinner teleprompter screens.
Thanks
Honestly, this seems more likely than what he's saying. The angle he was standing at didn't seem likely that he would have been hit unless someone was in the stands behind him, which didn't seem like the case from the video.
CNN is confirming gunfire.
Edit CNN is quoting local authorities confirming the shooter + 1 attendee are both dead.
2nd attendee severely injured.
CNN: shooter is dead and one bystander is dead as well.
Yup. CNN interviewed a witness who stated one man was shot in the head and killed instantly while a woman hit in the forearm and hand.
Turns out, calling out for violence over and over again or continuously calling for the blood of your opponents, threatening with imprisonment and a literal dictatorship, will be answered with violence. I am sooooooo shocked!
Get fucked. Hope the next marksman is luckier.
You can’t arbitrate with fascism? Who knew? History. History knows.
Can we all just calm down. Things are getting too crazy. Violence is not the way to go.
You're only allowed to be violent if you're a right winger. If you're a leftie, the voting booths and protest signs are over there.
Good luck.
I'm eager to hear the motivations of the shooter. It's possible their motivations are highly irrational, and not what we assume.
The guy who shot Reagan was trying to impress Jodie Foster. It wouldn’t be unprecedented if it was motivated by something bizarre.
Dammit! So close!
Trump is just a symptom. There's even more deranged people coming up behind him.
Who cares? I'm perfectly fine treating the symptoms until we can develop a proper course of treatment.
That doesn't make it ok. It also is even more of a reason to stop him.
A symptom ppl rally behind. Gop will hopefully tear itself apart more if he was out of picture.
It is kinda crazy seeing this being posted in a center-left political forum
It kinda gives credibility to the "Blue MAGA" label, how similar this behavior is to posts on r/thedonald back in 2016.
Them letting him stand there exposed for so long to yell at the crowd was very shocking
Could chalk it up to just a bunch of RWA (right wing authoritarians) being scared of how Daddy might react to being told no.
This is the dumbest shit and we need to fucking grow up a bit. These "questions" are asinine and not that hard to explain.
There's pictures of the fucking bullet in flight. So either that was ALSO manufactured (a member of the press willingly heard the plan ahead of time and doctored a photo or they actually shot a bullet inches away from Trumps head AND captured it). But no let's just get Trump, a bumbly ass fuck to orchestrate this perfectly. I'm sure he had it a planned to go down, and everyone covered him and he pulled out a razor blade, cut his ear, and put it away, all perfectly executed and no one caught anything on camera from any of the dozens of angles.
This shit is so fucking stupid and I'm so sick of hearing about it. These points all rely on the most ass backwards way of thinking where dozens of people are in on this conspiracy and relies on all of them bring cool with killing someone to make it good for Trump.
Get this shit outta here. This doesn't deserve the pixels on the screen used to illuminate this nonsense. Be a fucking grown up. We're going to have to figure out a real way to beat Trump, not pretend this was some false flag bullshit. Accept reality. Be a goddamn adult.
I'm not even saying you're wrong for questioning, but I am saying you are wrong because the sheer volume of things that would need to occur for this theory to be even remotely possible is so ridiculous, I would consider aliens an equally plausible situation.
All the mass casualty events we have to suffer and here we have a psychopath who can't aim. Such a shame.
MSNBC is reporting the shooter is a 20 year old Pennsylvanian.
They are also reporting he had no ID on him.
If he had no ID, how do they know he was from Pennsylvania?
There's a name and photos floating around now of this person on Twitter but it's not confirmed. I won't post it here.
CNN is speaking to Evan Perez, Senior US Justice Department Correspondant, confirming the information first reported by the New York Post.
Also on Reuters:
NBC:
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/trump-rally-shooter-identified-rcna161757
Fingerprint search found him on crime database?
Or military. White Republican with a AR-15 makes the military more likely than being arrested. But it's all on the table at this point.
He got shot and he says "let me get my shoes" wtf? Didn't he notice that somebody (supposedly) wanted him dead?
Tbh that's the most characteristic thing about Trump. Saying things so outrageously stupid, so far outside common sense and so detached from reality that people end up thinking about them more than they should.
Tip of the hat to the US Secret Service who know they have to take a bullet for that moron.
No they don't
I don't think any of them have a problem, pretty sure they are magas and would love nothing more.
https://www.vox.com/23274533/secret-service-text-messages-january-6
Maybe he was an early adopter of the Neuralink chip.
More likely a user of SSRIs.
Video clip: https://x.com/Acyn/status/1812249329203286464
Imgur mirror: https://imgur.com/a/TqPqVVn
BBC has a guy saying they saw the shooter on the roof of a house nearby: https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cljy6yz1j6gt?post=asset%3Af88c1daf-9e5f-4329-b540-8766997ff778#post
Trump's statement on Truth Social:
https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump
"I want to thank The United States Secret Service, and all of Law Enforcement, for their rapid response on the shooting that just took place in Butler, Pennsylvania. Most importantly, I want to extend my condolences to the family of the person at the Rally who was killed, and also to the family of another person that was badly injured. It is incredible that such an act can take place in our Country. Nothing is known at this time about the shooter, who is now dead. I was shot with a bullet that pierced the upper part of my right ear. I knew immediately that something was wrong in that I heard a whizzing sound, shots, and immediately felt the bullet ripping through the skin. Much bleeding took place, so I realized then what was happening. GOD BLESS AMERICA!"
There is no way in hell he wrote that statement, it's way too coherent.
I also don't see Trump expressing remorse for anyone else.
It is incredible that such an act can take place in our Country.
Is it though? There have already been 290 mass shootings in this country this year, so far. And this shooting does not even count among them.
Not even that... this is the third Presidential assassination attempt in my lifetime.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attempted_assassination_of_Gerald_Ford_in_Sacramento
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attempted_assassination_of_Ronald_Reagan
It just feels wrong coming from the person who enacted Jan 6th. He caused something just like this and someone died.
Pinning for visibility, there was another thread I had pinned, then I saw this one was first and has more engagement.
Watching the coverage right now, as the (shots?) rang out, he grabbed his right ear just before the Secret Service took him down and hustled him off.
Official statement:
"An incident occurred the evening of July 13 at a Trump rally in Pennsylvania. The Secret Service has implemented protective measures and the former President is safe. This is now an active Secret Service investigation and further information will be released when available."
Audio reads "shooter is down" and there are reports of someone in custody.
Edit Definitely blood on his right ear. Just got a better look at it, top of his right ear.
Edit TMZ reports the bullet hit the teleprompter and the shattered glass hit Trump in the ear.
https://www.tmz.com/2024/07/13/donald-trump-appear-shot-pennsylvania-rally-president-election/
Seal Team 6 sucks.
New York Post is the first to identify the shooter. Not linking it here because, well, New York Post... but it is being floated out there on non-social media.
Edit CNN is speaking to Evan Perez, Senior US Justice Department Correspondant, confirming the information first reported by the New York Post.
Also on Reuters:
NBC:
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/trump-rally-shooter-identified-rcna161757
They get the fucker?
CNN is quoting local authorites saying the shooter +1 attendee are both dead.
+1 other attendee severely injured.
So, no.😞
There's an extended video that shows a lift spewing hydraulic fluid with one more gunshot. I'm guessing homie moved and the secret service donated a bit more lead.
Edit. He was firing the left of the stage from our viewpoint, so he probably did hit the poor lift.
Are we placing bets on this being entirely staged?
Edit: Clearly, given the evidence now, that's a bet I would have lost.
Yes it's stage. Because we all know. If you going to staged an assassination. You do a head shot. 🤦♂️
It's pretty easy to cut your ear and get blood. They do it in wrestling all time.
I'm so scared of its global consequences.
Reminds me of the George Wallace shooting
aah oldest trick in the book, unfortunately also wildly effective
You ever feel like you live in some sort of Murphy's Law parallel universe, where the worst possible outcome of every major event happens?
Yes, that is exactly how if feels.
How can I switch to the GOOD universe?
Turn off the Large Hadron Collider. All this shit started back when they turned it on 😉
That's my house everyday