Judge finds Donald Trump in contempt for 10th time over gag order and threatens jail time
Judge finds Donald Trump in contempt for 10th time over gag order and threatens jail time | CNN Politics
Nice. I got contempt of court once and spent the weekend in jail. No ifs ands or buts about it. Judge wouldn't even let me hand my house keys to my partner. Lol
What a fucking joke.
The judge doesn’t want to give Trump’s team any ammunition for an appeal. I realize it’s absurd, but if he’s thrown in jail without significant warning then they’ll argue it biased the already liberal jury (cause NYC) against him too much.
(I am not a lawyer, that’s just my understanding.)
The judge doesn’t want to give Trump’s team any ammunition for an appeal.
It's still treating Trump different than most. If it's such a problem to put Trump in jail, why isn't it for any random person?
The judge doesn’t want to give Trump’s team any ammunition for an appeal.
If you believe this shit, you're fooling yourself. Guy's gotten ten warnings when any off-the-street plaintiff would be lucky to get one. Not only will there be ammo for appeal, Merchan is building precedent of untouchability. My man is straight up announcing
The last thing I want to do is put you in jail.
I-fucking-magine this getting said during any other trial. How much more biased can a judge get?
I think 11 contempt charges represents 10 more “significant warnings” than anyone else would get.
I legitimate appeals court would accept trumps argument and illegitimate courts aren’t going to care and just side with Trump anyhow.
This isn’t for appeals… it’s for mass consumption; and it’s a massive miscarriage of justice.
without significant warning
Hitler got a slap on the wrist because the judge was sympathetic. Same story here.
Wow, he must have really learned his lesson from the last 9 telling offs.
At $1,000 a pop, paid for by his cultists, he doesn't care.
Sort of my point.
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Oh fuck you for reminding me of that shit. Damn near a day ruiner.
It was one telling off, for 9 separate tweets that the judge was made aware of. So this is his second warning.
FUCKING DO IT YOU PUSSY!
"Just 15 or 20 more times, mister! I'm not kidding this time!"
You guys rip on me 13 or 14 more times and I'm out of here. ~basketball
You should be ashamed of yourselves!
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Now we've risen to the highest level, but you're throwin' it all away!
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We have sullied the waters of the Lagoon of Peace!
I'm begging you, for the love of our Caribbean brothers, dudes, stop this madness!
I don’t know why I hang out with you guys!
It's 2 times. The first 9 violations were assessed as a block (it was 9 separate tweets). So this is only his second warning.
Given that the judge doesn't want to get the case thrown out on appeal, two warnings is perfectly reasonable.
Threatening him does nothing but make the judge look like a chickenshit same as the rest
"The last thing I want to do is put you in jail."
~ Judge Juan Merchan
We love our fair and impartial judiciary, don't we folks? Lets give Judge Merchan a big hand. He's helping to Make America Great Again.
I wonder if he means that in the sense of "putting you in jail is only going to empower your frankly rabid base of supporters. I need to avoid even the slightest hint of a mistrial so we can put you in prison for good."
He knows that the rabid Republicans will try to twist it to say that he was jailed to prevent him from attending his own hearing. When they would gladly teleconference him in from the cell, like they do with other criminals. But that's not good enough for Donald Duck. Either this Jack-o'-lantern gets to sit there and look pretty or he will scream and cry a fit until election day comes around and it's too late.
It's all part of the nut factory's plan.
Bok bok!
When does this raise questions of precedent? Is everyone entitled to 10 violations of a gag order in NYC now?
Yes, if they can pay the $10,000 fine.
The judge said everyone gets warnings and fines before jail time. If he could, he'd issue a large fine, but he can't because state law caps the fine at $1,000 per violation. The judge acknowledged that a $10,000 fine for a multi-millionaire isn't even a punishment, but immediately jailing someone because they can easily afford the fine seemed wrong. Trump violated the gag order 10 times before being officially told to stop, so the judge is lumping them all into a "first" violation. He said the "second" violation absolutely will be punished with jail time. We'll see.
Bullshit fixed-value fines are only a deterrent for poors.
...but immediately jailing someone because they can easily afford the fine seemed wrong.
No it doesn't, not even a little bit! Restrictions on their time are the only things rich people understand; they should be jailed instead of fined early and often.
This is the second time in this criminal trial (all previous ones have been civil trials), and this me the judge stated that fines are clearly not working and that jail time could be necessary if it keeps happening.
Yes I knew we'll all believe it when it happens, but it is different now that he's in criminal court and the maximum fine has been dealt both for the first and second infringement.
Only if you can afford $10k/hr
Sounds like a small fraction of what Stormy should’ve charged
Wheres all those people that were telling me he'd be jailed with the next contempt charge?
The protection did not even ask for jail time! WTF!
A weekend in the clink without a cell phone would do the man some good.
Edit: I meant to say prosecution, but autocorrect.
Oh neat, a judge admitting that the justice system isn't blind at all and that there is a privileged class with very different rules.
Stop. Threatening.
Start. Sentencing.
It's not a sentence. This is a penalty imposed by a judge for misbehaviour in a court room, not a sentence handed down for a crime.
And the judge has to give at least a couple of warnings (this is actually the 2nd, not the 10th; the first 9 violations were all assessed as a block) or else he risks the actual case getting thrown out on appeal.
Sentencing him to jail is going to activate his base. That’s my only concern. People who have grown tired of him crying wolf will finally see this as the deep state locking away Trump to keep him from campaigning.
I could get away with ten contempt of court charges and not go to jail. /s
10th time
only now threatens jail time
Correct me but any pregraduate law student who hasn't been skipping on their classes could get rich by filing for the obvious bias the judges have to allow 10 contempts of court, wouldn't they?
This is the second ruling of contempt
First ruling was collectively over 9 comments he made.
This is the second, and said next would be jail time.
This is the second, and said next would be jail time.
Didn't they say that after the first as well?
This is still from the first batch of contempt charges. The judge ruled on 9/10 and wanted more information before ruling on the 10th
So, if I am understanding correctly, as a citizen I can threaten a judge 9 times, or threaten 9 different judges, and demand that I can only be held accountable for only one of them, or for all of them as a package only once?
That judges threats are emptier than an Donald Trumps head.
Don't be fooled by the "10th time". There were 9 separate violations that were all brought as a single complaint last week. So technically one "time" (as in, one ruling), just regarding 9 separate tweets so technically nine separate incidents. Number ten here is basically Donnie's second strike in terms of actual warnings. If he gets a third without repercussions, then I think it'll be fair to say the judge may be bluffing.
Remember, judges have to play things a little softly if they don't want to set up precedent for appeal. He can't give Trump any reason to claim he's being treated unfairly. Two warnings is perfectly reasonable.
Fucking yawn. Wake me when Agent Orange is in prison.
Eternal slumber is essentially death though.
Doesn't this create a precedence for being a dick to judges because they let it slide for Drowsy Don and everyone is supposed to be treated equally in front of court? I wonder what would happen if I were to be found in contempt of court for the 10th time in my trial.
He's not been warned ten times. It's ten violations. The first nine happened as a block. So this is his second strike, in terms of how often he's been reprimanded for this.
If the jail time is on par with the fines he gets, he should spend about five minutes in jail. That should teach him not to do it again.
It's actually pretty likely to just be an afternoon, the first time around. Remember, this is a penalty for behaviour in court, not for the actual crimes he's done. The point is to get him to stop acting like a little child. So yeah, odds are the judge books him for an afternoon, just so he can see how bad it is, then if he still keeps at it he starts getting week long stretches until he learns to stop attacking witnesses.
The judge seems to have a kink for holding Trump in contempt based on how ineffective the admonitions have been.
They can only fine $1000 per violation, so that's basically useless for stopping trump. Hopefully they'll escalate to jail time.
Maybe the Judge will actually do something useful once Trump's stochastic terrorism actually, inevitably, leads to an act of violence.
But probably not.
What TF is on his head?
A goose run over by a combine then glued back together.
Judge ain't gonna do shit.
Putting him in jail is what he wants. He'll use that to make his political martyr stance. It will escalate tension in his ranks and possibly result in violence. He can use all of it in his favor bc his people believe anything.
Then do it and leave him there until he apologizes. He's such a weak little baby. He can't handle a few days in a cell.
Bet
Jail him without secret service protection.
11 in binary is 3, so....
Goddamn I love a math joke.
This could be a great way to lower inflation. Just keep holding Trump in contempt and taking the fines out of circulation.
Or maybe we can use the fines to fund mass transit expansion.
Please stop violating the rules or else I will lightly more consider jail time, through my words alone, and give you an 11th warning.
What happened to the "3 strikes and you're out"?
Next would be the actual third strike. This was the second finding of contempt.
dewit
I was gonna say 3rd times the charm but it clearly isn't.
Trump’s hair has entered cotton candy mode
100 hours of trash pickup per violation
Meanwhile every other person:
gets shot for not following an officer’s orders in .5 seconds
Or shot for following orders from one officer because another officer didn't know what the first officer told you to do
Or even the same guy -- Remember Daniel Shaver? https://www.aclu.org/news/criminal-law-reform/youre-fucked-acquittal-officer-brailsford-and
Or they’re the same officer with an engraving on their personal rifle they use for work
Yes, but- A. Trump is white, B. Trump is rich, C. Cops are MAGA assholes.
I agree this is two-tired bullshit, but it’s exactly what needs to happen. At the first arraignment, Merchan fined the state maximum. At the second, he fined the state maximum and threatened jail time for a future infraction, after declaring his disinterest in jailing a former President. This is how a smart judge protects his rulings from mistrial appeal, which is exactly what the defense would do under even a hint of bias. Merchan wants everything to stick, just as we all do.