It's so strange that this is even a thing

If someone dumps me on a first date over my phone then so be it. It actually looks like dodging a bullet.

I'd dump you for not knowing the difference between then and than.
- SpaceNoodle is the real killer here
- On a serious note, Aziz Ansari (Tom Haverford from Parks and Rec) has a pretty good book called Modern Romance that's worth a read. When he does standup, he'll have a volunteer from the audience swipe though their Tinder (or Bumble or whatever) matches. The amount of trivial stuff that people dismiss potential partners for is absolutely amazing. People will be like "they're a Bears fan, swipe left."
  So people could be compatible on 999/1000 different levels, but our methods of online dating almost allow too much choice, because people feel like they should hold out to find someone who matches 1000/1000.
- I'm sorry, that's actually a mistake, fixed it
I would love to say "use whatever you like", but these Apple sycophants are ridiculous. They literally judge people because of the color of a text bubble! It's like saying "both US political parties are bad". Like, yeah: one party is flawed, but the other wants to destroy Democracy...

Men, proudly drag that battered and cracked android phone out on the first date, it's a litmus test for shallow people, apparently.

I went on a first date with a girl I met from work. She farted loud enough to be heard over drunken yelling and music in the steakhouse we were in, immediately after saying "I don't get embarassed".

In a couple of weeks, we will have been together for 16 years. We've been married for 14 years. We cook together every evening, we hold each other whenever we are in the same room for more than five minutes, and on the rare nights where we aren't taking each other's clothes off, we fall asleep wrapped around each other. I would have missed out on a perfect relationship if I had judged her for a phone.

Her origin story:
- RIP craigslist personals

the best move is to show your android phone in your profile pics so you don't get trapped with someone so shallow

Holy shit I've got some boomer energy, here:

The reason to not take out your phone isn't because someone might hate on your phone.

You don't take out your phone on a date so that you can be giving that person your full attention.

There are lots of reasons for using a smartphone beyond avoiding engaging in conversation though. Looking things up, sharing contact info, planning another date, paying for the meal/event, even going to a movie can almost require an app.
I'm not saying these would be the majority of the time or anything, but not using your phone whatsoever is more of a limitation than you'd think.
- People with existing family trying to date, like a single parent checking on their kids. For sure the blanket no phone attitude is unrealistic.
- Despite the boomer energy, I'm not actually one.
  It's only been 2 years since my last "first date". I know the world moves pretty fast, but I'd be shocked to discover that in the last 24 months the world went from "can be traversed without looking at your phone" to not.
  I guess I'd turn it around on you: NOT using your phone is NOT as much of a limitation as you'd think.
  Also, so many stupid things we do on our phone are things that could be an interaction with your date instead. What WAS that movie with Brendan Fraser with The Rock? Where IS that restaurant with no lights and all the servers are blind? What time is it? What direction is the river from here? What nationality is Santa Claus? How far north would we have to go so that Zombies would be frozen solid for at least 3 months per year? The point of a date is to attempt to form a bond, and it's the shared journey that gets you there, not the successful and efficient completion of independent tasks.
  Obviously, if the only way to pay for the meal is to tap your phone, tap your phone. The PHONE isn't the enemy. It's that you're your own enemy, and that your nervousness and awkwardness is going to try to push you into the comfort of your phone for reasons that you REALLY don't need to be on your phone for. Embrace the awkwardness and as much as physically possible lean on your date for anything you imagine your phone can do.
Yeah, that's my immediate thought as well. Attention is huge.
- So how are you paying?
I've got some zoomer info for you: We use our phone to check the time
Huh? But what if you need to like...get somewhere? Or pull up some tickets or something?
- Well, you could pull up your phone for a short while if you excuse yourself and preferably tell the other person what you're doing. "Excuse me, I just have to find the tickets on my phone". This goes for any time you're talking to another person, btw, not just dates, otherwise you're being disrespectful to the people around you.
Now tell em to fuck off our lawns!

Let's face it: If they were that superficial, they wouldn't have dated me to begin with.

If they are that superficial, you dong want to date them. Use every effective "shitty person" filter you can, as quickly as you can.

I don’t think I would want to date a woman who cares what phone I use.

I dunno, I think it would be fun to discuss parts of AOSP my date and I are both familiar with.
I'd be willing to date someone with a similar amount of contempt for anything apple to what I have. I'd also be willing to date someone with an interest in the type of phone I use (like a phone enthusiast, though I don't share that enthusiasm). If she suggests I should root my phone, she'd be a keeper.

Alternate take: Buy an Android phone and use your green bubble to weed trash people out of your life.

Is there a way to get the green bubbles if you use an iPhone?
- Yeah, you can disable iMessage in the Messages settings.
Pro-tip: I stuck a sticker of a large banana on the back of my android.
Everyone's a fan of a big banana.

Use your android without concern, any girl that cares about your phone that much can self-curve herself and save you problems down the road.

In fact, might wanna bust that phone out early to save some time.

Counter-suggestion (and this applies to everyone with an Android regardless of gender dating anyone else regardless of gender), do use your Android phone in front of your date because that weeds out psychos who would reject you over not owning their preferred product.

I'm 36, and a disabled veteran. I put that in my tinder profile, cause I know most women are going to hate that I'm not maximizing the selling of my life to capitalism.
I've had two chicks match with me just to tell me my profile is shit for including that - Whatevs if you're gonna swerve me for chillin on a pension let's get it out of the way instead of wasting my time until work comes up. 🤷
- I just now replied to another comment remaking I had never heard of "curve" being used like this. And there are already variants of it? How long has this been a thing?
Yeah, adopting behaviour to keep something like that in my life doesn't seem like doing myself a favour.
I accept your counter offer
It's pretty much imposible to not use your phone these days

These men dodged a bullet.

Better advice: use an android phone to filter out the reactive dipshits.

I think all this tells us is that Katarina here hangs out exclusively with basic bitches

Back in the days, basic bitches would dump you because you didn't drive a german car. Now they judge you on your phone. Times are hard for everyone it seems.

If a woman is that shallow and materialistic then the guy is dodging a bullet. Anyhow, it's a weird thing to say since "android phone" could mean literally anything from a basic $100 smartphone all the way up to a $50,000 Vertu diamond and white alligator skin. i.e. it could mean the guy is sensible with his money or even more shallow and materialistic than the girl could ever dream to be.

Could mean that he enjoys a near complete lack of privacy, likes to use a samsung web browser, has his life assfucked by Google, likes shovelware, or wants a phone that only gets updates for 3 years. I’d be suspicious too.
- Yeah.... Or it could be the complete opposite of all that.
  Android / AOSP comes in many flavours from Swiss cheese give your life away security to locked down more than any apple device could be. IOS only comes in 1 flavour.
- Huh?
  -sent from degoogled lineage os
- I just want to be able to access files on my media server without having to pay 10$ for an app.
- LMAO iPhones have those problems but like 10x as much, just replace Google&Samsung with Apple. Imagine not being able to download or use anything that isn't approved by big daddy Apple.
- How did you make it this far in the fediverse?

Shit advice. If my date dismisses me because of the phone I use, they are not worth pursuing.

If you are that desperate to get laid that you start tippy-toeing, consider paying a whore. Better for your mental health.

Use the android phone as a filter.
100% this. If they're judging you based on your fucking phone, then THEY are not worth pursuing

I feel like using it on the first date is actually better, as a form of litmus test to find out of your date is trash (bad).

Does this really matter that much in the US?. Here in the Netherlands about 70% of people had an android phone in 2022. Nobody really cares what you use, as long as you're happy using it.

Apple people are weird, it's best to avoid them when possible.
- *American apple people. No one else on earth gives a shit.
- I remember when the iphone first came out. A guy in my country flew to the US to buy one then came back to brag that he's the first one in the country to have one and he couldn't even use it here.
- I hope you would not avoid me for having an iPhone any more than I would avoid you for having an Android phone because judging people for what phone or computer or OS they use is stupid. In my case, I have an iPhone because I got in very early and now have several hundred dollars' worth of apps I don't want to pay for again. Maybe one day I will decide it is worth that sacrifice, but right now, I don't feel like it is. I also don't get the latest and best iPhone. I replaced my XR with a 13 this year.
  But to me, you are no better than the hypothetical date in this post who judges the person for not having an iPhone. Why do either of you give a shit? It's a personal choice and it doesn't matter any more than what color your house is painted or what percent of fat you like in your milk.
  Judge people for their attitudes and their actions, not what personal devices they decide to spend their money on.
iPhone is dominant in the US, but I can't believe people give enough of a shit about which smartphone someone uses for it to be a dealbreaker in finding a significant other.
- Oh they definitely do, especially among young people. They even get bullied over the color of the iMessage text bubble which shows up in different color if the message was sent from a phone other than iPhone.
- I blame dating sites to be honest.
  For a large portion of women they can have almost anyone at the push of a button and so they start rejecting people for the most absurd things.
  I imagine the same could be said for the "chads" on dating sites, but I think they care more about the pump and dump than being superficial about anything because they aren't in it for a relationship.
  Then there is me, a literal joke of a human. My phone would probably be the last thing I'd get rejected for as you won't even get that far before swiping "not ever." Lol
- I really hope you know better to take shitty Twitter memes at face value. This isn't a thing.
I'm a Finn, not sure what the apple % is here, but I've never met anyone who isn't either a child or atleast slightly retarded that owns one.

Men, do yourself a favour.

If a girl ghosts you because of the phone you use, she's clearly too shallow to bother with, and it's worth ghosting her back.

Girls, do yourself a favour.

If you've got a problem that a guy uses a 'droid, you may want to reconsider your priorities.

While I agree, one rarely knows the reason they were ghosted. So the fact that it could be your phone and not you can take the sting out.
- Yeah, sometimes it's just a bad vibe or something they might think is silly but they can't ignore their instincts. So a woman may tell you it's something like your phone or the restaurant was too cheap, but that doesn't necessarily mean that's true.
  I've found there's a big subset of people, myself included when I don't watch for it, who can't help but try to pick apart the reasoning behind "No" if you give them a full explanation.
  Explaining your thought process on why you are declining gives them the tools to try to change your mind, to explain to you why your answer was wrong.
  If you just want to wash your hands of situation, saying no with little to no explanation stops them from trying to salvage it, to convince you otherwise. I feel like giving a stupid bullshit explanation like "you have an android" may be the same idea.

Yeah, this isn't a thing for anyone worth dating.

Literally seems like a junior in high school kind of comment, honestly.

Is this a thing in the US? Here the only time i care is when i dont have my charging cable with me and im looking for one (although this should be changing)

It's not
- I've literally only ever heard it be a US thing. I don't think it's a everyone thing, but I think it is something that US teenagers care about.
Only on the internet.

Why would even want to be with someone so shallow in the first place ? If they ghost over a phone then good riddance.

Sounds like it's just gonna save me some time. If she's gonna be that basic, I have better things to do.

All my bitches use Signal

So your mom and sister?

Nah. I'm too old for this highschool nonsense.

Sounds like the guys didged a bullet to me.

Does anyone know the diagnosis code for her mental disorder?

My usual diagnosis technique is to use adb and escalate to root privileges. I'm not sure how you even penetrate apple.
- With a worm

This is america.

I personally would pull up with the 12.9" iPad Pro to assert dominance.

I would be there to make you feel inadequate, making calls with my Samsung smart fridge.
- As a straight man, I'd date a guy who can casually carry around a fridge rather than some standard, phablet cuck.
Call someone with it
- swoons
- You actually can if you also have an iPhone.

They curved the perfect man? Is he no longer straight?

Sure he ain't straight anymore, he got curved after all.

That a good filter for shallow jerks

Guess that’s like those dating profiles that people post online once in a while where the woman demands a height, weight, and income before they even consider talking to a man. At least that’s up front and honest, even if it’s shallow.

I really don’t understand the social cache of an iPhone. It’s overpriced tech. I’d rather someone say right off the bat that they won’t talk to somebody who doesn’t have an iPhone. No need to deal with someone so superficial and interested in wasting money on shit specifically because they want it for showing off how much money they spent.

They just don't want to remember their own phone charger everytime you hangout.
- USB-C: soon
Meanwhile, there are Android phones that cost more than the iPhone Pro Max, whatever it's called.
- The difference is those phone bring it. S23 ultra smokes any I phone in terms of usability. I can imagine having an iPhone as my mobile office
Apple indoctrinated and hooked them into this mindset early in middle school with iMessage green bullying bubbles
based

i didn't know you could use androids as fuckwit detectors in the USA. Good to know if i'm ever travelling there though....

Bad news, if you travel through the USA your fuckwit detectors will never stop alarming :'(
There's not really a general association with fuckwits, the whole thing stems from Apple phones using a different color for Android users in a text, because they have a bunch of proprietary bullshit in iMessage that doesn't work on Android. It's a meme but also I'm sure some people take it quite seriously.
Edit: Apple users are fuckwits though
- It's kinda bs too sometimes. My sister recently went through a divorce and now her ex and his new baby mama are in a group chat with her on iMessage to coordinate things like handing off the kid on weekends and holidays, general medical stuff, etc. Recently they were gaslighting her and harassing her because she refused to do something for them that was not in the custody agreement and the new girl sent some nasty messages... Then deleted them.
  I told her then she needed to update her phone settings to disable iMessage with them so that SMS actually keeps a written record when they decide to harass her like that in the future. You can't delete that. Also, the carrier can pull up SMS records if you need to report something to the police, but iMessage is encrypted so I'm not sure Apple could do the same even if they wanted to. You can also set iMessage to indefinitely share your location with someone, so I showed her how to check that that was off. And if she shared any sensitive info through iMessage like SSNs there's a whole process to delete those from iCloud so that's not a risk if it ever gets hacked again (like it was in 2014).
  Apple has some convenient features, but if you aren't that tech savvy, you open yourself up to all kinds of issues.

I mean if your looking to date a high schooler this is probably a factor you'd consider. No one cares about your phone, at most just that you have one to be able to contact you.

Dodged a bullet, I'd say. Anyone who is remotely paying attention to what phone someone's using on a date is....not someone I want to be around.

The other day I got unmatched by a girl on a dating app because she wanted my WhatsApp and not a phone number. We literally had already agreed to go on a first date and then she's like "I don't use my phone much so you need to use WhatsApp" and I'm like "I don't have WhatsApp, here's my cell number: XXX-XXX-XXXX" and then she disappeared from my matches on Hinge lol

A few possible guesses.
She has no sim card and exclusively uses whatsapp for calling.
She doesn't want you to know her number unless she gets to know you.
She's lying or scamming.
I'm leaning towards number 2 if you're outside the US, because I imagine I'd rather set up a new profile than change my phone number. If you're inside the US, I'd bet it's number 3. Whatsapp doesn't seem to be as popular in the US.
- 100% #3. one of the reasons I've stopped using dating apps is all the scammers. That and it's a literal meat market, where you're constantly having to talk to multiple people because so many just ghost you, and every message you send better be lighthearted, funny, amusing, and flirty or else fuck you.
- You get the phone number through WA though
- I'm in Canada but it's not super popular here either. Although she was foreign so she may have had a different take on WA
That's fishy. Unless you are a business WhatsApp needs a cell number and a phone. And I think even then they are needed.
- I assume she had a cell phone since we were using Hinge (which AFAIK is only a mobile app). She just said she never used her phone. Which, like.... you're using it right now?

I am so tired of hearing this bs. Android cost just as much, if not more than apple (iPhone 15 cost $800, Google pixel 8 cost $700 and yes that's an Android phone), we have just as good a camera as iPhone, our designs are ever evolving meanwhile iPhone is stuck in the past by at least 4 years, if not more, and the only reason videos look like shit over text is because of the weird formatting the company put in. Please, for the love of all that is holy, explain to us what is so appealing about iphone?

I got a carrier unlocked Pixel 7 a year ago and it was like $500... I will probably get at least 5 years use out of it. There are definitely "premium" Android phones with special form factors or enhanced features. Really to classify every device running Android as the same is ridiculous. It'd be like saying a Volkswagen TDI Golf and a Sherp ATV are the same because they both run diesel engines.
To your point about features... there are vendors taking risks and therefore the newer and better features tend to be available in some Android phone first. I remember walking around turning TVs on and off with my Galaxy S4 to the amazement of Apple normies. Many of us also had wireless charging like 2 years before Apple customers even knew what that was.
- Aww, don't get a carrier locked phone!
  Being locked to one company like that sounds like a nightmare, for all those 5 years? Not for me, I bought an unlocked pixel 5 a few years ago and mostly use prepaid or an unlimited plan from one of the smaller companies, can't go wrong with the freedom to move around to find the best price and service.
- Sure, you can get brand new android devices for under $100. You can also get Android devices that cost more then iPhones. It's a made up status symbol. Like airpods. Airpods suck and look like crap hanging out of someone's ear. But because it's Apple it's "cool". It's practically a cult.
Yeah, I dont buy an android phone because its cheaper, but because it has the features that I want.
(And I dont get locked into some stupid ecosystem)
Did you just use high price like it was a pro and not a con?
- No, it's an argument people make that Android is cheap.
- He wasn't talking about pros or cons.

Two of us can play this game, if she ain't using linux or some BSD I'm leaving (but not after installing minimal gentoo and leave it without an internet connection on all her devices for her to figure out)

If she's not gonna arch her back because I use an I phone, she's gonna have to use Arch with no DE and some esoteric Wayland WM that's only configurable by C.
"Ladies, if you use OS X in front of me, I'm out of here!"
*nix or GTFO.
- Based I too use NixOS

That's it. I'm going to whip it out on the first date.

That's great! I wouldn't date a woman who'd dismiss a person based on the phone they use. Saves time, really.

Seriously, when I jump back into the dating pool, maybe I’ll need to borrow one.

Men, you've just dodged an ICBM.

You'll basic

That's the problem Katarina. You're hanging out with stupid people.

- It's You are all

If you curve a good person because of the phone they use then THEY dodged a bullet, not the phone elitists

Since when did "curve" become new lingo?
- I assumed they meant "curbed"
- English isn't my first language, so I thought it was a typo
- Probably close to 8ish years ago is when I first recall hearing it

This isn't a thing, especially when you can barely tell the difference by looking at the phone alone. It's going to be like 90% phone case, and most phones are practically very little bezel screens so you can't tell from the front.

- Sounds like a win for you.
  If you take a second to look at something that appears superfluous like that you start to see the underlying hatred there. No free thought, fall in line square activity and cut out anyone who isn't of the arian race, I mean doesn't have a white phone. Sorry, typo.
  (Obviously this comment is not meant to be taken literally, but yes I equated iPhone users to conservatives, while implying Android users would be independent free thinkers)
It literally is a thing, and while some cases obscure brand many dont. And no case changes the text bubble.
It's why Apple leaned into the notch. It makes the front recognizable

Fuck that, if she doesn't like my neofetch flex she's a -redacted-

Neofetch? Are you using a Linux phone or emulation a terminal?
- Mostly joking but since we're here
- yep you can get termux from fdroid

My Lineage OS phone is much more secure than your dumbass iPhone.

Nobody actually does this.

I hope you are right. There are shallow people out there.
- Nobody worth your time actually does this.
I've seen a few articles about this topic, and apparently there is a fairly significant difference. It seems so shallow.
https://www.androidauthority.com/study-iphone-dating-matches-3190357/
- A lot of news articles copy and paste rage bait like this. They see one "post" on Twitter and suddenly everyone is doing this. The post is usually from a bot.
Surprisingly large number of upvotes on the post
- Yeah, rage bait really gets to people :/ remember when every neighbor was sticking razorblades in Halloween candy? Media loves hysteria

I have owned both Androids and iPhones and they both suck. I should probably look into the fringe brands.

I'd never judge someone for their stupid phone. Hell, if it's some ancient Razr flip phone or keyboarded BlackBerry type thing, I'll be impressed.

We're all in this boring dystopia together, dammit.

"I prefer a phone that lasts as long as I do"

Pull out your Nokia 3310.

"Sorry, you're nice and all, but exhausting. This isn't going to work out."
- That's also a good counter for the Apple snobbery XD

always knew that my blackberry will get me laid

Real women don't care. Some of us even prefer others have Android

I got a pine phone is that k?

I might discriminate against a guy with an iPhone. Maybe. But only if he was on it all the time while we were out.

This makes me want one of those rotary cell phones, just to see what happens.

Rotary cell phone?
- I backed out of the thread, my mind caught up, and I came back because I want to see this rotary cell phone. We demand answers OP!
I mean I don't know how big it was worldwide, but where I'm from there was like a whole trend some years back where teens would have these, landline telephone speaker/mics you plugged in to the headphone jack to make calls and they'd have it hang around their neck when not using it it was the dumbest fucking thing I've ever seen.
- That honestly sounds hilarious. And I can 100% see some kids thinking they’re the coolest people on the face of the planet while doing it.
- That sounds epically stupid and I both love and hate it at the same time

curve this waves fairphone

only because pinephones are barely usable and librems insanely priced! Or you can damn well believe I'd have a native linux phone.

Linux phone?!?!? I'ma have to invest lmao
I don't think they will tell the difference
- yeah, to those people linux kernel is linux kernel

Was it this phone: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/07/the-maga-targeted-freedom-phone-has-a-breathtaking-amount-of-red-flags/

I'd probably walk out if I saw that thing. Not sure they ever sold any though.

Avoid all this nonsense by getting a Palm Pilot.

Are you single? 😳
- Hot Syncles in your area.

Nah show your weird tech worship res flags on the first date please

Is this an American thing? I've never heard of this (in Canada).

No, it’s a made up thing to drive engagement from the tribalism techies get over their choice of billion dollar brands. What a bunch of bullshit.
PS. I’m sure there are girls that care about shallow shit like that but they don’t care about you if they do, regardless of what phone you use. If you had a $20,000 Android phone or a Hermes Apple Watch, that’s what they’d care about.
- I suspect it may be a geniuine thing amongst teens, though... mocking and bullying people with green chat bubbles in the group text is apparently a Real Thing amongst middle- and high-school kids right now, so I could 100% see a teen girl blowing off a date over having the wrong sorts of status symbol devices.
Pretty sure it's a stupid people thing.

This isn't real, but would be a great acid test.

I wouldn't want to have anything to do with a woman that shallow.

My sibling said it cut their dates down by a third as soon as they switched from tinder to texting. They said to use snapchat instead because it was so bad.
Sometimes society collectively starts doing something incredibly dumb and you just have to roll with it if you want to participate.

Women with Android phones are hot af, just sayin'.

Image Transcription: Twitter Post

Katarina, @Kkatarinako

Men, do yourself a favor:

If you own an Android phone,

Wait at least three dates before using it in front of her.

I can't even count on my both hands

How many stories I've heard from women

That curved the perfect man just because he had an android phone

My fiancé had a Pixel 3 when we first starting dating, when the 6 was already out by then. Tbh dgaf, he's smart and a phone doesn't equate to a good personality.

i use an iPhone and am an active Linux user.

Did you jailbreak? (I assume jailbreaking is still a thing - it's been a while for me)
- Jailbreaking is a thing... if you have an iPhone X or older/an iPhone running an old enough iOS. I have neither.

Who's 'curving' who?

Probably some sort of slang for rejecting etc.
- I believe 'curb' is what she meant. Honestly the ignorance some full grown voting adults display on the Internet is just completely mind bottling.
  *Ya'll have no sense of humor; I'm eatin tho. Bone apple tea!