Microsoft Teams is dog shit

Microsoft OneDrive is the maggots in the dog shit

That's all.

There's more: microsoft outlook is garbage

Microsoft Teams isn’t all bad! For example, it bogged down my work computer so much at start up that I would basically get an extra break.

Microsoft Teams is dog shit

That's all.

What blows my mind is MS fucking bought Skype and somehow Teams still can't handle video calls correctly. The actual fuck did they do with that acquisition?

I was expecting a detailed rant, including an example or two. “That’s all” is much, much funnier.

Is there a Microsoft product that isn't?

To be fair, Teams is pretty bad even for MS. I've never seen something do so relatively little and still perform so poorly. When I switched jobs and got to use Slack it was like a great fog being lifted off of my being.

Unpopular opinion: I actually like MS Teams

Look, I know this might get downvoted, but Teams is... actually fine? Yeah, it's not perfect, but it just works. The best part is that everyone and their grandma knows how to use it because it's the corporate standard around here.

I can't tell you how much time I've saved not having to do the whole "can you hear me? let me try reconnecting... oh wait try updating your browser" dance that happens with other platforms. My company recently switched to Google Meet and honestly? It's been a downgrade. Teams might not be the coolest kid on the block, but at least I'm not spending half my meetings troubleshooting audio and video issues.

"Your organization has blocked this action"

I mean this is my work phone, and I'm trying to copy a customer's phone number from a spreadsheet to the dialer, but thanks man.

It's still better than WebEx because I don't have to log in to that piece of shit software to start a video call.

i hate ms with every fiber of my being, but teams has gotten better. it used to be practically unusable. now its just mostly so

The fact that me and a coworker can't both share our screens at the same time is absolutely batshit. 1x1 collaboration isn't even reasonable, nevermind anything more

The file/document integration is based on SharePoint. Shit built on top of a nice pile of manure

Edit: and don't get me started on the teams android app which requires access to all your media if you try to share a single image. If you share it as a file attachment however it's completely fine. No you're not getting access to my files and pictures MS, keep your filthy adware fingers off my data

The biggest mistake was to make it a "hub" for all sorts of other uses in my opinion. It shouldn't be browser based, it should be native and just focus on chatting and calls, that's it. It could be so much faster and intuitive.

Ah, they're all crap.

Came to Teams from Slack, some upsides, some downsides. It's a corporate communication tool, I don't use it because I think it's beautiful and elegant, I use it because I get paid money to use it.

Spoken like a person who isn't forced to use JIRA

I’m so tired of web engine based apps

Honestly I don't know how it is even possible to make such a dog shit product. I think my first webrtc tutorial app works better than this piece of shit.

Since I have not seen anyone mention this problem yet: Teams doesn't let you mute other people in a call for yourself. Obviously also no volume control per person. Imagine sitting next to your coworker in a teams meeting and having to deal with hearing them twice with like 20 ms delay. Awful.

I have a Jabra Headset (now retired) that literally has a MS Teams logo on the side and is market as "Teams compatible". As you might have guessed, Teams is the only VC app were I regularly have to switch betwen inputs to get the headset to work during a call.

I keep a Teams tab and an Outlook tab opened in Firefox on Linux at work, and I feel like I have a better experience than most people using it on windows, which seems crazy.

I work in IT. I think it's popular because it's "free".

With that said, I put up a picture on the office wall of a Swiss army knife with features like syringe, fire extinguisher, axe, etc and have it labeled Microsoft Teams. Yes, it can do 100 different tasks, fucking poorly.

I don’t care. I’ll take anything that maintains staff meetings from home. Before COVID they were 90% in person.

that is because theyre selling it to the business, not the end user. They dont give 2 fucks about your experience

I mean, with winter coming in, and universities not bothering to heat the building, teams turning my potato work laptop into a furnace is the only thing keeping us warm this winter...

Serious question - is their long term strategy bad optimisation to sell hardware? Do they have shares in intel or something?!?

No, no! Dogshit sometimes fertilizes and promotes growth. Microsoft teams is poison.

Microsoft Teams is dog shit

FTFY

What's bad about it? I'm a Linux admin by nature but an admin of all by profession and overall I have no real complaints about Teams. Has always worked just fine for me and to my knowledge everyone else.

My company has teams and slack and IT wants to switch to all teams. The thread where they announced this had to be locked. :D I don't know how a trillion dollar company can't get this right. Worst yet the bundle that shit with everything and overworked IT depts pick it by default.

Microsoft spent billions acquiring Skype only for us to be left with Teams

I mean , works for me. You know what is complete bullshit?

SKYPE. Using that in a work environment is a nightmare

I have an office account for work. I don’t happen upon the troubles people report here. I couldn’t leave MS as I basically use all their stuff for work (and so do the several other hundreds of employees here). But teams does work well: texting, videocalls with 100s of participants, recording meetings, file repositories

I use teams every day. My only gripe recently is the messages like “look the wonderful things we did to improve it” that I didn’t need and will probably never use, but I press the little X don’t know don’t care

Unfortunately, much better than Skype

Genuinely the single worst messaging app I've ever used. Worse than Skype, which is crazy because Microsoft owns that too.

They make use it at my job. I hate it.

I dont know.. SharePoint has pissed me the hell off too, its a close one

I am glad that I never had to use it, but I have heard many complaints in my circle. The most common one being that it changes one core UI or workflow every fortnight.

Imagine the plight of people who just want to get their work done and go home, only for them to see a tool critical to their work has automatically decided to update and now has a reshuffled UI.

Cannot help but feel that there are too many product managers trying to make their mark on the product.

Out of curiosity are any similar products actually good? My company uses Webex and frankly I'd rather use teams.

Of all the Microsoft products I’m forced to use for work, teams is by far the best. It still sucks. Fuck Microsoft. Fuck monopolies.

Fuck Microsoft. But first, Fuck Google, Fuck Amazon, Fuck Facebook. I am sure I could think of a few more that are worse than Microsoft, as bad as they are.

It's like a graveyard of companies that Microsoft has acquired over the years. Sharing files is one brand name (Sharepoint if i recall), making video calls is another name, planned events is another - every function has a brand name to it, which made me feel like these were the last remaining trace of long-absorbed companies.

But that's just my recollection, i haven't touched Teams since Covid

Have to use it at work, it is a real nightmare.

I love how they rolled out the new upgraded Teams and it's still awful!

It's the worst and has been running like total crap for years. Even Skype for business worked better. Luckily it is better than Cisco Jabber or Webex.

It's the Sharepoint of chat.

well, it's not just Teams and not just MS. Have you worked with Zoom lately? I do agree that Teams occupies that very special dark space in my heart right next to hate and loathing.

Is there any video chat service that isn't? It seems every single one has some glaring issue that makes it a pain to use. And it's not like I could just use a FOSS thing that's better; this is one of those things where you are kinda limited to using what everyone else you're going to be talking to is using. :(

It sucks, it doesn't work properly in Firefox, so I have keep it open in a Chromium window too. This morning I saw new messages in my Chromium but not in Firefox until I reloaded the page. I wonder what other information it's keeping from me.

lmao, based. Discord too.

Thank you! Finally someone has the guts to say this publicly

As with all things in business, good enough is king

I actually don't mind it being web based, there are a lot of web based tools that run perfectly fine and don't use that much resource

Teams is generally stable for me running the pwa in Microsoft edge nowadays too

We user / have used Slack, Zoom, Meet/Gchat and a VERY brief trial of teams.

We have O365 AND Google Workspaces so we get teams and meet for free.

Zoom is the best to host a large meeting with a split presence. It's the best at dealing with variably poor connections. It shines on being able to share any specific app and sound control.

Meet is the best for small, low-friction meetings. However, it is hampered by its inability to share anything but browser tabs with sound, poor camera control, and poor user display.

Slack is a fantastic, too-flexible chat system with organizational issues. When it works, it works pretty well. However, it has intermittent video and mic problems on many systems. It is not good on poor connections and occasionally not good on fast connections.

Teams is bloated, many systems run it poorly, and there is an unacceptable amount of server-imposed downtime/issues.

While I have close to zero trust in MSFT and event much dislike a lot of m365, teams isn’t actually that bad and loop is really good.

Trying to play a video in a meeting results in 2009 levels of choppiness. It's insane.

Outlook 2010 is better than this new office 365 shit too.

Am I the only one that prefers it to Slack?

Of all the meeting solutions, I’ve come to the conclusion that Google Meet is the least bad.

It literally doesn't even function half the time.

What is crazy is that Mac version is more stable than windows in my experience. Still shit, though

i just hate everything about micro$oft nowadays to be honest.. and i use and always will use linux mainly aswell cause of my hatred for windows in general

You can't set alerts for availability. This is functionality that it used to have, but lost across updates. This is by itself is enough to relegate it to the compost bin.

Screen shared coding with 1 fps. Genius.

Can't even see animations, quick actions, or significant subtleties.

While I'm not saying it's perfect, I still think it's aeons better than Skype was shortly after its acquisition by Microsoft.

So what do you prefer over teams? And why is it better?

I think that’s a bit insensitive to dogs

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It may be crap, but it's a masterpiece compared to Skype for business.

My biggest complaint is that you can't save chat logs.

I work in government, and we do a LOT of stuff on Teams, and I'm just waiting for us to get sued because we can't turn over Teams chat logs in Open Records requests.

The only thing it does better than Slack: A list of all my chats, most recent at the top, without any disappearing or grouped in some weird way. Slack annoys me.

I chalk most of the shit that makes teams horrible, is closely related to electron and their whole web app as a desktop app bullshit.

Buckle up, because they're doing that same enshittification to outlook next. It's already begun. There's a "new" Outlook. FML.

I no longer work with corporations, but an online ornithology classI did used teams. It worked, mostly, for a while. Then one day it decided that video would no longer work on my machine. Of course there's no obvious log or anything.

I even booted windows to see if it would fix it, but no.

That was on a very exotic yoga 7 pro laptop.

It's the only piece of software that's ever behaved that way.

I use it daily and think it's excellent. Skype, on the other hand, is diabolical.

Yeah I'm going to go ahead and record this meeting. Please speak up if you object. Because we've provided so much psychological safety that there will surely be no judgement or fear of reprisal for those with any hesitation to swim in line with the corporate current. We're also going to share files in this chat that you'll have to catalogue and remember - so when someone refers to a nondescript file shared 3 weeks ago you'll be forced to know exactly which chat and file you're referring to. Also, put yourself on video. We appreciate face to face communication.

If teams was just teams and didn't have all this cross integration bullshit with OneDrive/SharePoint and Todo and viva I wouldn't mind it.

But no, it has to be part of the ecosystem 🤮

Why do they want IT admins to be useless?

I wish we could use Slack.

Microsoft Teams *are dogshit.

why are we using it

Haha be thankful for what you have. I work at a pretty large financial institution and we still use Skype for Business. There is another messaging app we use but not everyone is granted access to it so I have to use both apps daily.

I’m annoyed you still can’t do annotations with Teams.

Yes. Typical MS corporate BS. Take "inspiration" from slack and zoom, make it great to steal the market, then make it worse and more expensive every once and a while.

💯

365 is just shiiiit. Even Google's stuff (free) is far better and less intrusive/annoying.

I don't mind teams for chatting or meetings but I hate sharepoint and the Teams file "structure" with a passion.

I can’t believe we still can’t moderate chat in a public webinar…. « Hey the guy who wrote ‘FUCK’ 20 times? Yeah you can kick him out, but make sure to keep these messages visible for all posterity »

Can’t send private messages to outsiders also. Who could EVER need this in a public event anyway?

And make sure you can’t let people join the breakout room of their choice. Take the time to individually assign them one by one before the meeting! Fun!!

Hey at least we can play Backgammon in a meeting, so there’s that right?

At least it's better than Slack and Discord. Still shit of course, but it could be worse.

Yes. But moving on, Is this just a modless wasteland of a community? It seems like anything goes in /technology

Can confirm. The UI alone is atrocious.

Am I the only one that like Teams?

three trillion dollars

I'm sick of notifications not coming through on Teams. Fucking piece of shit program.

Who told you to tell the truth?

You had no right!

Based.

It's particularly bad now that it's forcibly embedded into every computer, and at the forefront.

You can't hit Win-C by mistake any more, since Windows will instead open a window to "chat with friends and family" by trying to install Teams. (Which makes it particularly bad on my end is that the install broke, so it will randomly pop up later with "Cannot install teams at the moment. Please try again later.")

Today it decided to not mark messages read after I had opened them.

Source?

I literally saw someone using slack the other day and got excited. Wtf is wrong with me

Yes, yes it is.

and every fucking company is using it. I don't even wanna know how much money my company is paying for all the MS crap we use.

That's not all, a ton of schools use it

Indeed.

It was a few years ago, but I still panic when I hear the incoming call sound. One of the worst sounds ever made.

Every day it logs me out before standup and gets locked into a stupid "not loading" loop. I have to go to the login page, whereby it recognises my token and fucking logs me in. FUCK.

Agreed. They switched us to teams for our softphone and the caller ID doesn't even show me the number that called half the time. I just get a generic location which is worthless to me.

You don't say.

Yes.

It's the fucking worst.

I used to have tons of problems with it but for the last 6 months or year it seems to be working fairly well for me.

Yeah... yeah... Atleast before I could use Ublock on Edge amd use the web browser for sharepoint/teams/etc.

Oh, did you just get the memo?

Based and tech pilled