Crucial is shutting down — because Micron wants to sell its RAM and SSDs to AI companies instead
Crucial is shutting down — because Micron wants to sell its RAM and SSDs to AI companies instead
Capitalism strikes again.
Fuck AI.
Guess when people ask me what ram do I need for X device I won’t be telling them to use crucial anymore to figure it out.
I won’t be telling them to use crucial anymore
We yes, because eventually the supply would wind down.
AI was never meant to benefit the working class in any capacity.
Its a great rule of thumb that if you see oligarchs hype up something and push for it to be everywhere, its a BAD fucking thing.
They believe they can put an end to having to pay for labor in any capacity ever again. If I knew less than I did about how this AI works I would be worried.
Or if I worked in entertainment.
Meanwhile the average CEOs decision making could be replaced by a goldfish in a tank with some arbitrary object detection code.
Resource drain of LLMs inescapably makes them tools availiable only to big players. They are ideal in the way they are naturally gated. Making them mandatory == giving these select companies and people power over everything. And not only oligarchs' promotion, but the whole situation of them being given for free or cheap at a huge loss gives one an idea that there's a lot to milk from it's growing adoption.
But that's completely not true! Like, not a single thing you said is even slightly correct!
LLMs are relatively cheap to run - at small scales. You can run an LLM on your own computer right now. It won't be super fast, it won't have super skills, but you can run it, and you can train it yourself.
Massive LLMs like ChatGPT require tremendous resources precisely because they are not just tools available only to big players. Everybody on the planet has access to them - for free. The only actual difference there is between running an LLM locally and through a provider is that you get better speed and (sometimes, depending on context) better training through a provider.
As for "there's a lot to milk from its growing adoption" - maybe? Probably? Who knows? That's the "magic" of the AI bubble we're experiencing right now - the big players keep saying that it will "make work and money obsolete", that "anyone will be able to do anything", that "a time of post-scarcity approaches", and a billion other bullshit marketing slogans like that. But the reality is that nobody has yet figured out how to make money on that thing.
Right now, the only reason it's "growing", is because of the weird and probably illegal circular financing that's going on at the very top - Nvidia invests in OpenAI, which invests in Oracle, which invests in Nvidia - and so on. No money is actually being made or (often) even changing hands, but everyone can now show they've received a lot of investment which pumps up their stock prices. The only reason this hasn't popped yet is probably because the main investing parties are using tonnes of cash they had stored.
Growing adoption means nothing. It's a marketing tool for them to keep shareholders happy while they keep a literal investing circlejerk going, every now and again inviting another player into the fold.
Of course, AI is going to be used as another layer of control.
I knew there was something wrong when we started getting positive metrics based on how much we leveraged AI.
I recently started my own AI factory , the passive income is great. All you need is a grease and soldering gun. Thanks Nvidia , I never have to work again.
this seems incredibly short sighted... the current situation exists because there is a large amount of infrastructure and data centres being built. once that infrastructure is built, the demand will return to normal... OR once the bubble bursts, the market will be flooded with used ram from failed data centres..... aliexpress will be selling ram at a dollar a gig when all these data centres flop
The only people who believe in infinite growth in a finite world are mad men and economists.
But you repeat yourself.
As someone who does AI and gaming as hobbies, I look forward to a corporate bubble popping. Being able to max out an EPYC or Threadripper Pro's DDR5 capacity would be awesome. :)
The unfortunate part for DIY PC is that the RAM is likely all buffered ECC. And used flash is sketchy in my experience, even if you buy SLC where the whole point is supposed to be that it is more durable.
I don’t think the bubble will burst like we are used to. AI is part of the arms race between nations. So they will shore the industry up at all costs.
As for the choice to shut down the brand. It will be years before all that infra gets built. Better to sit the time out and revive the brand when prices are reasonable enough that hobbyists and such are willing to pay them.
Yeah but you have a company that has people to pay and rent to pay etc. If they don't have enough liquid money to handle it then well here we are
Edit: so I wanted to edit this because if anybody still sees it I was very very wrong. I was not aware of that crucial was owned by micron. I did not realize what was actually happening and Micron can pretty much go f itself
!Technological Implosion imminent, please stand clear!
So their not shutting down, just focusing on AI idiots until the bubble busts and then they will turn back to consumers.......
Rules of Acquisition #1,261-- Always fuck over the idiots in the market. And when you've taken all their money, go back to your base with inflated prices.
And with the AI bullshit, I’m reminded of Rule of Acquisition #82: The flimsier the product, the higher the price.
That's a fast track to losing market share.
It's a calculated risk. But I think they will be just fine when they turn back to their base consumers. And the consumers will welcome them back. Happens all the time. nVidia and crypto Hoe's are the latest example.
Translation, Micron is shutting down Crucial for short term shareholder value at the cost of a sustainable and proven long term brand and channel.
It’s not just for shareholder value, like a downsize or stock buyback would achieve. This will literally fill their coffers to the brim faster than staying in the consumer market. Also the consumer market won’t go away anytime soon and there are very few competitors to begin with. They can just return to the consumer market once the AI bubble has burst like nothing has changed. Only difference is they will have way more money in the bank than if they never left.
Ask Intel how well compromising long term product development for short term gain is working now. How is their bank balance looking now?
You also cant just pick it up from scratch again. The people are gone, the relationships are gone and people who trusted your brand to build their businesses have gone elsewhere.
I swear businesses are run like political parties these days, they simply dont care about anything beyond the next cycle.
I built a god rig in 2022, i bought the best 64gb ddr5 4-stick ram kit i could, an nvidia 4090, the best processor i could, and attached it to the best mobo i could.
I spent about 4800.
My pc is now worth about 6500.
This is some crazy ass shit. Never should a pc appreciate in value.
What the hell is going on?????
AI companies are buying up all of the RAM in a futile bit to reach AGI.
I swear bro, just let me add one more gigabyte. I swear, we're gonna get to AGI. Just add one more gigabyte. Just let me add one more gigabyte. Just let me add one more gigabyte. I swear. I swear. I swear. I swear, we're gonna get to AGI. Just one more gigabyte and just make it bigger. Just make it bigger. We're gonna get to AGI. We'll get there. We'll get there. We'll get there. Just make the model bigger. I swear.
Your point still stands, but don't forget basic inflation. $4,800 in 2022 is like > $5,300 now.
When you hear people say they hate AI, it's for more reasons than AI slop, energy consumption, and beating the damn term into every product line you can imagine for little to no benefit.
My phone recently offered to summarize a text message for me. I'm talking about SMS, the messaging system that already has a character limit.
Also, when I last checked the weather in my area, there was an AI summary. It was an entire sentence or two, and offered zero additional details over what was already visually indicated by the raincloud icon and the number representing the temperature.
I'm looking forward to installing GrapheneOS when their support for my phone stabilizes.
Maybe I should start investing in my PC more
I bought a fairly good custom build in April of this year for A$3218.
The same approximate build now costs A$4783 on their website.
AI is really ruining fucking everything. The enviorment, entertainement, music, art, jobs, reality, freedom / privacy / rights.
No, corporate greed is ruining everything with AI.
Because you know if they built a super-AI that give them perfect instructions on how to build Earth into a paradise, but it would require they give up 1/4 of their wealth, they'd be reaching for the reset button before it finished printing them out...
And it will burst and mostly disappear, taking with it half the economy, thousands of jobs, and become a military industrial complex blackbox tax sponge, the worst of all possible outcomes.
A fun reminder that during the pandemic, before AI, there was a backlog in new cars because all the crucial chips were unavailable due to an increase in bullshit like wifi enabled toasters.
It has nothing to do with AI. Consumers are asking for this shit and companies are delivering.
Customers aren't asking for this shit. The issue is that companies don't seem to try to deliver products customers want anymore. Instead they hop on some bullshit trend to try to appeal to investors to buy their stocks to pump it up because they want to show they are the next big thing in innovation.
No one is asking for ads on their fridge. You are really underestimating the cartel like behavior of business in general now.
Haven't seen it put any more concisely. It's true though. I really really hope some AI bubble pops soon...
But on the other hand, it's really polite about me knowing nothing about anything, so I think we should invest all the money on Earth into it.
I am really beginning to fucking hate AI. Like, before I just didn't care for it, it just wasn't really my interest. But now I'm really beginning to fucking despise that shit and I really can't wait to see the "AI economy" completely fucking destroyed.
AI even ruined AI. Up until this insane hype train, ML models were specialized tools to achieve their tasks. Now the whole field is dominated by LLMs and slopgen bullshit.
Yeah that's the annoying thing. Generative AI is actually really useful.....in SPECIFIC situations. Discovering new battery tech, new medicines, etc. are all good use cases because it's basically a parrot and blender combined and most of these things are rehashes if existing technologies in new and novel ways.
It is not a fucking good solution for a search engine replacement to ask "Why do farts smell?". It uses way too much energy for that and it hallucinates bullshit.
A lot of top researchers have already moved on from transformers.
Yann LeCun, Meta’s longtime chief AI scientist, quit and said LLMs are a “dead end” because scaling text-only models can’t produce real intelligence, and he's not the only one who thinks so. Lots of engineers understand the limitations of LLMs.
There was already a lot of ML bullshit from the big data bubble ~ 2010 and before ChatGPT, together with all of the fuss about data scientists. But now it's a 100 times worse.
So far, AI has cost me a few hobbies (as in, made them a lot less enjoyable) and one job.
If there's an uprising against clankers, you'll find me at the front lines.
exactly how i feel. literally said something very similar to my wife last night. I fucking hate AI. I think activist group are going to starting popping up hard against it. And if they aren't already, they really should. This shit is destroying our world. The only people this is helping is billionaires.
It's so annoying, I hate this bubble shit. It happens over and over, it's like a bad movie lol.
And it'll happen again and again and again
If it crashes the hardware will suddenly be dirt cheap though so. There's that.
They'll cheat us out of that too. Chip manufacturers will pay and coerce and liquidators and retailers to shovel all the surplus into the ocean to keep prices high.
I can only hope that the A.I. bubble bursts in time when I need to buy a new computer.
What I'm becoming worried about now is all these corporations now realizing that they can simply supply price the average consumer out of owning electronics or any kind of compute. And locking them into renting or leasing access to data center compute and keeping the power of information further consolidated in corporate interests.
“You will own nothing and be happy”
Aren't we already seeing that though?
The vast majority of people who surf the web don't use a computer to do it. People who do belong to niches. People over a certain age grew up with and still buy computers. People who game still buy computers or consoles. People who stream/create content still use computers and other electronics for that purpose, same with like. Engineers and hobbyists using CAD and other software in creative spaces.
But the smart phone has overtaken the computer as a personal computing device by quite a large margin now. And at every turn companies are trying to make cell phones a den of ad service, slop, and addictive content while stealing any user data that's not nailed down to increase their revenue and continue the circle.
"Please insert more corpo-coin for compute access"
Wouldn't the chinese or whoever doesn't chose to do that gain market share?
theyd have to all collorbate to make that happen though, which is really unfeasable on their end. a BUNCH of companies will go under if they cannot sell product. they arent going to willingly take losses for the sake of a different company.
I hope they do, it will just break stuff more and people will be more likely to go with Linux and open source software. My 10 year old computer still is super fast if it's not bloated.
I hope it means the return of old, old hardware and the software that comes along with it. This is why projects like collapseOs are important.
Anybody hold onto all their old electronics just in case in spite of the financial/resource “waste”?
Only if you use their products and allow them to profit from it.
First it was GPUs because crypto, then this. Wonder what useless thing the tech bros will cover up with in a few years!
Article in 2027:
Keyboard prices soared this month, as tech giants pivoted from failed AI projects to employing hordes of monkeys typing randomly. One CEO was quoted as saying, “Just a few trillion more dollars, and I think our random typing model could reproduce the lost contents of the Library of Alexandria.”
Water.
It’s already happening in parallel though, not next.
Right? Feel bad for anyone that just had a system fry or have been saving up to upgrade.
I think it's a lost cause. Essentially both crypto and AI were big because someone figured out how to offload shit to a GPU efficiently. There's probably a ton of other appllications for GPUs we haven't even tapped.
I've got this crazy idea where we can use GPUs to render 3D scenes efficiently.
Serial compute isn't doing the double-every-18-months-in-speed since something like the early 2000s.
Unlike with serial compute, not all problems can be solved, run faster, with parallel compute. But at some point, unless we figure out some sort of new way to play with physics, we pretty much have to move to parallel compute where we can if we want much more performance.
If the AI bubble bursts most of the western world will be thrown into deep recession again and I hope we don't get a repeat of 2008 just for cheap RAM or GPUs
It's already there for most of us. It only a few rich companies getting richer that's making the line go up.
Same
Oh man
Holy shit, really? Crucial? They’ve been a major player for AGES. That’s wild.
Damn, that was the only brand of RAM without LEDs and racing stripes on it
I used to hate on RGB in PCs, until I realized that they can do more than just rainbow vomit; with enough LEDs you can actually get a visible image... If you squint...
One of my favorite things to do with RGB is use the RAM sticks as VU meters and the CPU radiator fans as visualizers when playing music; gives off oldschool HiFi vibes and reminds me of my Winamp days.
That really whips the llama's ass.
Functional RGB isn't bad when tastefully done like that. Nice little effect.
That said I have all of mine turned off and prefer my tower under my desk and out of sight.
That's interesting. I've always wanted a bunch of blinkenlights but they also needed to be functional and serve some purpose. Kind of like the old Thinkpad I have that has a whole row of status LEDs under the screen. A bunch of meaningless lights just for the sake of having lights always seemed pointless.
Anyway, with the last PC I built, the RGB stuff was pretty much unavoidable. I still went out of my way to get a case without a window though. I do have the RGB on, but it's a solid blue-greenish color so there's a bit of glow coming out the back of the case.
I like the rainbow vomit, but I get it.
Damn, that was the only brand of RAM without LEDs and racing stripes on it
hits Google Shopping
Aside from being a black circuit board rather than green, that PNY DIMM doesn't look especially blinged up.
As other comments have stated, other brands usually also sell non-RGB RAM sticks. Personally I got Kingston FURY Beast RAM sticks, they come in either RGB or non-RGB variety, though the RGB variety costs like 10 dollars more.
I just installed a 4TB nvme Crucial SSD in my new build solely to put games on.
I'm sure they will come crawling back to consumers after the AI bubble bursts.
Same here... I'm so glad I upgraded when I did... I did a panic upgrade last December.. just look into a better GPU now
I deeply, genuinely, hope that the AI bubble bursts and they get fucked. It's just so short sighted to not hold on to the safety rope.
It will burst but they won't get fucked. They'll either get bailed out or reorganize their debt into another corporation and ride off with all the riches.
I'd love it if their equipment racks all simultaneously burst into flame the day it pops so they can't pivot or hock their hoarded hardware to recoup the investment. Then again, if that finger on the monkey's paw did curl, they'd probably all get bailed out by the taxpayers the following week anyway.
You gotta be fucking kidding me, I swore by Crucial RAM and SSDs. Eat shit, Micron.
Same here, the only SSD brand I buy :(
A few months from now: Crucial unshutting down
If that happens, prior Crucial consumers (like myself) should boycott because they already showed what they actually care about and it isn't their loyal customer base. They don't want us to buy their products? We should happily give them what they want now should they change their mind later.
Anyway yeah, if they come back, they're officially on my shit list.
My next computer will be a bag of LSD and YouTube Longplays.
As someone who spent the majority of the '10s with a similar rig as you described, make sure you work nights and have an SO that tolerates whatever nonsense you are blathering about when she gets home.
Business don't care about consumers because nowadays business sell to other business
Nowadays? It's always been the case. It's far easier and less hassle to sell to or work for other businesses. I run an IT service company and I avoid residential work line the plague. It can sometimes make me more money, but over all it is horrible as opposed to work done for other companies.
I've talked with people in HVAC who have said the same. It's much easier to provide a service to a business than random individuals.
However, this is different, as this is just a retail product. Micron doesn't have to deal with the person who doesn't pay after the job is done, or doesn't lock their dog up because "he doesn't bite, it will be fine" and it turns out to be an aggressive monster. This is just assembly line production that they already are set up to do.
I get that they have a limited number of inputs and they are just choosing to make as much money as possible. It sucks to see that go, though. Crucial has always been my go-to for RAM.
Shits wild the same ram I bought over a year ago is 400% more for half the amount of GB.
Yeah I love current RAM prices, running a memtest right now – 75k errors and counting. I'm really excited to go buy some more, can't wait.
Crucial is the only good brand I can afford. This sucks ass and I HATE AI. I hope AI companies lose all their money and go bankrupt.
AI is destroying so many awesome things, all for profit.
I don't believe this, because it is too stupid. 2026 demand forecasts for HBM I don't believe will materialize, as customers can't pay those crazy RAM prices either, OpenAI can't pay for all of their promises, demand isn't high enough for the planned data centers, and power and labour constraints.
I don't believe it because Micron is a brand that has value premium to it. Even if they just keep charging extortionist prices while HBM demand fantasy remains propagandized, there will eventually be worthwhile consumer demand for RAM, right? Killing the division and firing everyone in it, is Micron saying "making too much money from HBM must forever put all eggs in HBM basket"
This has got to be some sort of psyop
I dont even want to build a computer anymore, finally saved up some money and I shouldve just continued spending it on overpriced festivals (crazy how it also used to be a deal and now its just 500$ minimum for ticket and shitty hotel)
I hope when the AI bubble pops, Micron goes with it then.
Also, I can’t wait to buy up used RAM for pennys when the bubble pops.
Didn't you hear? They retired the penny from production. :)
Which means they're collectable! I have a jar full of them so I'm rich I guess.
The Brits are still doing a penny!
Also, I can’t wait to buy up used RAM for pennys when the bubble pops.
The memory that manufacturers are producing is HBM; they're transitioning facilities that had been producing memory for DIMMs to producing HBM. HBM won't be in DIMM form factor --- you can't just stick it into the slots on a PC motherboard.
Not with that attitude
I gotta be real with you. This comment very much sounds like the delusional super stonk member who think eventually the big system they believe is colluding to fuck them trips up on a technicality and makes them uber rich.
Basically, you're just imagining a reality that wont exist for so many reasons.
The biggest reason is that the AI GPUs do not use DIMMs largely, and even server dimms (ecc rdimms) won't fit in your PC.
More than that, by the time anything does happen, technology will have moved on.
If you're about to say "but I don't have to", Id ask you why you arent on a 10 year old computer right now.
plural of penny is pennies
Damn. This sucks. I've been buying Crucial ram sticks as long as I can remember. They've been the reliable go to brand for me. First it was EVGA and now Crucial. How depressing.
I had to look it up. The RAM I bought 12 months ago for $99 is now $350. This is insane.
My RAM (32GB 6000 CL30) i bought at a price drop for 79$ a year ago now costs 500$
These CEOs seem really slow on the uptake. Gonna put all your chips into the AI business just as the bubble is about to burst.
The market can stay irrational far longer than you can stay solvent.
That’s the thing about bubbles, the last moments are very profitable, it’s more like rich people are playing chicken with the market until it busts.
They're trying to squeeze the last water out of the rock while hoping to dip out before everyone realizes everything has been squeezed out.
I read an article yesterday that Samsung's memory division wasn't even willing to let Samsung's own cell phone division lock in any long-term memory buying agreement with them, which the cell phone division hsd been trying to do. Too much money in selling HBM memory for parallel compute to datacenters.
https://www.reuters.com/world/china/ai-frenzy-is-driving-new-global-supply-chain-crisis-2025-12-03/
Some 6,000 miles away in California, Paul Coronado said monthly sales at his company, Caramon, which sells recycled low-end memory chips pulled from decommissioned data-center servers, have surged since September. Almost all its products are now bought by Hong Kong-based intermediaries who resell them to Chinese clients, he said.
"We were doing about $500,000 a month," he said. "Now it's $800,000 to $900,000."
I threw away a bunch of large-capacity DDR4 DIMMs last year, figured that they'd be useless in the future. Kind of wish I hadn't, now. Reusing old DIMMs is probably the only source of supply that can be ramped up in the near term.
In October, SK Hynix said all its chips are sold out for 2026, while Samsung said it had secured customers for its HBM chips to be produced next year. Both firms are expanding capacity to meet AI demand, but new factories for conventional chips won't come online until 2027 or 2028.
Two or three years until manufacturing capacity will be ramped up.
Dude I have DIMMS that I bought in fucking 1999. Who the fuck throws away RAM?????
I have memory thar predates DIMMs and have no plan to throw them away. That guy is crazy
Some 6,000 miles away in California, Paul Coronado said monthly sales at his company, Caramon, which sells recycled low-end memory chips pulled from decommissioned data-center servers, have surged since September.
"Fortune, fame, mirror vain
Gone insane, but the memory remains"
What does Samsung's memory division think is going to happen to their phone division if they won't sell them ram, wow.
My 5-year-old mainboard only supports DDR4. I'm just looking to increase my RAM and have two free slots available. But even the prices of DDR4 sticks have increased 100%-200% compared to a year ago.
They are more affordable than DDR5 sticks to be sure but still crazy.
My 6 year old build had ram in it (2x16) that was going end of life a few years ago so I bought the same pair again before it did. I'll be good for a while, glad I made the move when I did.
Since nobody can afford memory, this means mainboards and cases will get cheaper, right?
Or... we could learn to code software so the average mouse driver doesn't require a gig of free RAM, 10 gigs of swap space, and 15 CPU cores?
Just a thought.
I'm not much of a conspirationist, but this memory "shortage" doesn't add up for me; it's like AI companies went from buying 10 memories as usual to 1000000, all of a sudden! It's too fast, and sus.
it's like AI companies went from buying 10 memories as usual to 1000000,
I mean, they basically did. OpenAI announced a few months ago that they reached deals to buy 900,000 wafers of DRAM per month, representing 40% of global production capacity. For a single company. There are several other companies competing at those scales, too.
It's a production issue mostly. And one that has been predicted for a while now.
High Bandwidth Memory is what the AI companies want. Which while it isn't the same as consumer DDR RAM, it does use the same chips.
It's the production of the chips that are the bottleneck. Combined with the recent and rapid growth in AI data centers. That's where the price increase and shortages come from, corporate buyers have bought out production, before it hits the consumer market.
Demand has risen sharply, and supply isn't able to keep up (and it isn't a simple thing to just make more chips).
There were rumors of an Intel fab in Europe, even Italy maybe. If only... if only.
Once AI hype goes away they can keep the prices as it was during the shortages and make extra money from there.
I wonder if they realized there weren't enough GPUs, so they decided lets just build a massive ram cpu/farm to do the job at 1/100th the speed and waste money on the inefficiency.
Right after Windows 10 stopped being supported, rendering a lot of computers "obsolete".
/yes I know about Linux
You can still download XP (in disguise, or the real deal if you have a corpo my.visualstudio.com account),
We created a place for open discussion
It's a WhatsApp chat.
Piss off
Cyberpunk wasn't supposed to be a prophecy. It was meant to be a warning.
So was:
1984, Brave New World, Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep (Bladerunner) and other pk dick novels/film adaptations, , etc.
Those are all great books/stories. But they are all off the mark for the AI bubble.
The book you wanna read is John Steinbeck's The Grapes Of Wrath.
Not according to Elmo. He sees it as his destiny
I am really, really glad I replaced my PC's a year ago.
This is insane. I'm kinda sorta rooting for the crash now. These unregulated billionaires are ruining all the things.
All I can do is pray that my current RAM survives long enough for this stupid AI bubble to burst, like with the Crypto-Bro GPUs.
But it is kind of horrifying how easily consumers have been priced out of the RAM market - at least for newer stuff anyways
I'm good as far as amounts are concerned (32 GB; on a DDR4 platform), though I still wanted to upgrade to 64 for the sake of not needing to swap when running a bunch of things at once.
Now I think I'm just going to wait for DDR6 and upgrade my entire setup because it's going to take a few years and by then the AI bubble should've popped already.
Last weekend my PC didn't start up, it was beeping an error code. I was so scared of it being a memory issue while diagnosing.
But luckily it was a video error code. And after swapping out the GPU and still getting the beep, even more luckily, it turned out to be the display being stuck in a bad state and just needing a reboot.
I might upgrade to GabeCube from my current rig i7 6820k from 10 years ago, but still a year or 2 away from replacing this rig.
I also hope my RAM survives. Good luck friend! This rando from Lemmy wishes you the best (if I win a lottery I'll buy you a new rig!)
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Fuck....
Ridiculous. I couldn't name a more trusted brand of RAM.
You should probably start lieing about that and taint the brand as much as possible. Probably won't do much but we should all just start saying everywhere that is a great thing because crucial sucked anyways.
Kingston
I both fear and can't wait for the ai pop. Please come sooner rather than later.
AI, along with crypto, is getting to the point where even oil executives are like "dudes, the planet..."
They'd be full of shit because oil products are still by far the biggest pollutant afaik
China might dominate the ram market if things go this way:
https://m.made-in-china.com/hot-china-products/Ram_Memory.html
Might as well become a reseller lol
For a second I thought Micron was an insult for Macron.
Great. What SSDs are worth buying then? Kioxia? Solidigm? Never going to buy WD, Samsung is on my shit list too but if there's no other options left....
edit: just read that solidigm also exited the consumer business at the start of the 2025, amazing
Samsung is in my shitlist for their horrible shady business with their smartphones, but even tho I want to never buy anything Samsung again I still think their m.2 SSDs are really good, did something happen with that division that showed it's also shitty? I want to know and hate even more on Samsung
Story why I hate Samsung (was too long to put in the middle): bought a s21 fe thinking I'm getting a snapdragon processor, they hid never mentioned anywhere in the page that this specific model has their piece of shit exynos processor that literally struggles to run anything, overheats if it isn't on battery saving mode and goes through the battery like it's on sale
First it was GPUs, and now it's RAM.
This seriously sucks. Maybe I'll have to stick with my mom's laptop for a little while longer if prices are going to be impacted (which I having a feeling they probably will be unless they already are).
Are you fucking kidding me? Holy fucking hell.
They told us us to buy computers in 2024 in case this happens. Here we are.
Damn...
That's OK, I wouldn't dream of buying American RAM anyway.
Personally, I'm willing to bite the bullet and get Samsung's but I know not everyone can afford to do that.
Damn I've bought a lot of crucial stuff over the years
I assume they're my current memory kit too since I pretty much always go with them
Aww man :(
Is free market capitalism turning into a communist planned shortage economy?
if they weren't already burning the economy then all ai companies should burn themselves.
This should be in nottheonion
Cool, hope they go under with the rest if them.
Lawsuit.
You can try, but I don't see how they've done anything that makes them liable to a lawsuit. I'm just adding them to my list of companies I won't do business with when they inevitably come back to consumers after the bubble pops.
Why? I mean, they aren't compelled to manufacture DIMMs.
Right now, there is a window in time where there are companies willing to pay tons of money for HBM, more than most people and companies are for DIMMs. It'd be crazy for memory manufacturers not to make HBM if they have the capacity to do so, if they're doing way better by doing so.
@tonytins
Bad bad bad not good.
Bought two 32GB DDR5 RAM Sticks at the start of the year, and turns out that was the best investment of this year.