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  • I'd vote for Pritzker over Newsome, but I'd rather AoC

    Yes well I would personally love to see AOC become president as well. But I live in the real world where there is a definite bias within the Democratic party against strong leftists like her and Bernie Sanders. I mean just look at the mayoral election in New York City. Even if Mamdani wins, it won't change the attitude of the party elites. They will just double down on trying to quash anymore leftist inroads into the party. That particular change needs to happen from the ground up, as in we the people need to push them as hard as possible to the left. And try to get them to drop the neoliberal philosophy that is dominated the Democratic party for the last 40 years. That why the NYC election is important. Him winning will help other leftists to galvanize left leaning people across rhe country to challenge the DNC elites and thats where we can really affect change, by supporting those candidates the way Mamdani was supported by voters in NYC.

    or even better Luigi

    I'm pretty certain this is said for shock value. But if i were to directly address it, this is just insane talk. No matter what I think about healthcare executives and what they might or might not deserve. Luigi Mangione is a disturbed individual who needs serious psychiatric help. Murder is not ok.

  • Regardless of the original source of the quote, there is a marked difference between criticism and disparagement. Making light of or downplaying someone's situation isn't the same as saying, "What you are doing is wrong".

    There is also a foundational difference between social consequences and governmental ones.

  • She's not actually. I don't think she's that stupid as to think she'd be able to overcome the bias of the democratic party establishment in just 2 years. What's she and Bernie are trying to do is galvanize the apathetic left into standing up and fighting rather than just sitting on social media and complaining about how everything sucks. What is needed is huge numbers of people to come out and vote like their lives depend on it (cause they do).

  • They can't bring him back because they don't want to piss of Tump.

    Everything else is inconsequential. This is the essence of the problem. We're not supposed to be living in a country where anyone should be afraid to make fun of or piss off the president. He's not a king and he's not an emperor. He is a replaceable employee of the government.

  • Honestly you're not wrong. But you can't really limit that to Lemmy. This is the truth for literally every online forum that exists. These debate bros just took it offline and onto the streets, filmed it and edited it to make them look as good as possible and then fed it back into the online spectacle machine. Using virality as a means of persuasion instead of a reasoned argument.