Electric Cars

Honestly it's a little how my mom talks when she gets upset. Just a stream of things that are loosely connected but are all bobbing along on the same river of emotion.

It's how I get stuff like "You never call me you call your cousin he's cheating on his wife you know just because you broke up with your girlfriend doesn't mean you have to take it out on me". You can kind of see how there's a shared feeling or theme there but it's not articulated.

I'm going to guess that for someone who produces output like that, input of that type goes in easily. They're just vibing on the emotions.

"Emotional Word Vomit"
New band name?
- Mean Girls (the original!) has entered the chat
It's one thing all the parodies like SNL miss. Every mockery of him makes more sense than his babble, because you need things to make some sense to be funny for more than 90 seconds.
"Covfefe" gives you what, two seconds of a joke? When you work it into something, that something ends up more coherent than actual Trump.
I never knew I had a brother but we obviously have the same mother.

"This is the guy I want to represent my interests in international negotiations."

– 40% of Americans

"Joe Biden is the incoherent one."
Those same 40% of Americans
- Biden is too old, and I wish we would have ran someone else to aim for 12 years. His administration has done a pretty decent job with what they've been given to work with. Honestly, we need to give them enough margin to be able to legislate without enormous concessions.
  But when the alternative is gestures wildly that, this really shouldn't be an open question.
He just stumbles randomly from conservstive buzzword to Conservative buzzword without saying anything of substance. He's literally the perfect candidate for them.
If he wins the world is lost. His "leadership" is indicative of the same disease that's increasing everywhere. It's worrying and it's all coming from the "right" of the political spectrum. Wars are coming.
- I've always had to remind myself and others of this. Trump isn't the problem, not really. He's just a symptom of the brain rot gripping the world at this moment.
40% of Americans think he’s smart.
- The word Think is a bit generous tbf
- We hope its only 40%.
- 25% of Americans think he's smart. 47% of Americans want him to be the president.
Nah, they want a king. Some of them at least.
Hell if isolationism is your goal maybe this would help /s

An internal combustion engine came up to me, big strong internal combustion engine, tears in his eyes, and said "Sir, I want to thank for all you've done for this country, from the bottom of my spark plugs."

Was it ‘Mater?
And even that old internal combustion engine managed to sputter less than Trump did.
An internal combustion engine came up to me, and puttered out a better speech than that.

Wtf is he even saying

He's writing his speeches for maximum SEO like a stable genius
What ever you need him to.
You know, you might be debanked. Good heavens! Debanked!!
"I hate electric cars too now vote for me you scum!"

They do believe the car thing. A relative of a friend told me she didn't want Biden to take away her Honda CRV because she liked it so much. She seemed to think it was a nearly done deal, Biden's coming to reclaim all fossil-fueled powered vehicles and make everyone buy electric cars. I didn't ask for details.

Of course, the Republicans are standing strong against this atrocity.

So this is the new "Obama's gonna take all your guns!!1!" trope.
Which of course he didn't. Either of the times the GOP leaders said he would. And they knew it. It was just to create hysteria among their base.
- Yep, though the gun manufacturers, via the NRA, probably drive that one. They LOVE it when a Democrat is in office because they can say that and watch gun sales rise.
  I'm convinced they also love shootings, or at least did, for similar reasons - I'm sure, for a while, gun owners worried this latest shooting might be the one that generates new restrictions on gun purchases, so out they went to buy. At this point I don't think they have anything to worry about; we as a country seem to have decided mass shootings are Just Great, so that little fear probably doesn't work as well any more.
  Let's never forget the NRA's solution to school shootings, after Newtown, was literally, "More guns in schools."
- Obama didn't increase firearm restrictions, but Trump did with the bump stock ban. Which, incidentally, is due to be overturned by the Supreme Court this year.
- It wasn't for lack of trying though, because Obama did call for and back legislation to ban certain scary guns. Their attempts at the taking of guns simply failed the standard legislative process. Many of you probably weren't of voting age at the time, but this process of attempting to take the guns actually did happen during the Obama presidency.
Oh no! ~~Obama~~ Biden is coming for your ~~guns~~ cars! Only our guy can save from this totally real danger!
I know why politicians claim it, because taking away something that belongs to someone is an affront to them the way "regulations requiring manufacturers to adhere to climate friendlier standards" isn't, but it's such an annoying instant radicalization people make.
Finding out gas stoves cause a significant percentage of childhood asthma and some states proposing a subsequent ban on household gas in new builds only became "BIDEN WANTS TO MAKE YOUR GAS STOVE ILLEGAL". Subsidies for electric cars became "BIDEN BANNING GAS CARS" etc etc.
- I now wonder how much damage I did to myself sitting around camp fires for so much of my childhood.
Just raw economics will win them over long run. EV will be price parity at some point not in the too distant future. In those sunny southern state, where solar + EV is just such a clear win, the rolling coal inbreds just can't not see it.
Depending on the generation of CR-V, I suppose - and without any hard math/stats despite how hard I've tried - I suspect the net impact of your relative driving it for the rest of its usable life vs buying a brand new EV to be significantly less, considering Lithium mining, curb weight, etc.
- ...... I'm not sure why you're telling me this. Also, it's not my relative.

I don't know, Musk has gotten to the point that he might actually match with the MAGAts against his own company and then fire half the staff for not defending the factory against him.
I don’t think he cares all that much about Tesla and probably sees the writing on the wall for the company. Its reputation is mud. He got what he needed.
He’s on to the next thing, only using Tesla as a stepping stone to the next grift.
Here’s my assessment of him -
He started out exploiting people - His family used aparthied and slave labor to build their wealth.
From there, he used his family’s wealth to woo/partner with engineers with good ideas.
Then he moved into his business exploitation phase, using his lack of morals to claim ownership over the companies he founded with others ideas and sell them off (Zip2 and the first X . com).
Using those proceeds, he entered the government exploitation game. Space X, which is held afloat by government grants. Or Tesla, which was also held afloat by government grants at first, and then later, largely by over-enthusiastic stock market investors, whom he began to experiment with manipulating.
Naturally, he moved on to trying his hand at stock market manipulation in a big way. It’s where instead of making millions for himself and billions for companies (or billions in ‘assets’), he could have personally made actual billions in liquid cash. That’s what all the ‘will he, won’t he?’ was about regarding purchasing Twitter and its massive stock price fluctuations.
But he got outfoxed by Twitter’s then-lawyers, and now he’s desperately trying every knob at his disposal, including Putin and Xi’s, in the hopes that his empire of grift does not collapse. It’s why he’s attempting to turn Twitter into an online bank (like the first X . com), and wants the husk of Twitter to cater exclusively to stupid and manipulable people - things he sort of knows, because he recognizes the mythos has been broken and he can’t pull the same confidence tricks.
None of this stuff is even in their own interests.
It’s like the anti immigration people who don’t want to fund education. It’s H1B visa workers that will need to fill jobs in the future.
Not really. Tesla is aimed at libertarians, aka the conservative side that wants the cool toys from the left but only for the wealthy. For example, the Cybertruck is about making electric vehicles appealing to the more radical side. So it is a pickup truck, but not a too competent or practical truck, but that doesn't matter. What it has to be is a shiny toy for assholes to LARP being a millionaire during the apocalypse. “It's bulletproof!” being one of the stupid lies that he uses for marketing towards them.

All the talk about Biden being mentally unifit coming out of the Trump camp has to be pure projection. Trump is what, only 4 years younger? He's had some gaffes just as bad imo

They're both mentally unfit IMHO. One is a bit demented, the other is lucky that his dementia happens to help cover a pile of seething shit.
- Biden isn't a good person by any means but we're literally comparing the next Hitler to Bill Clinton.
  Clinton got a blowjob and got impeached. Trump fucked a hooker and no one gave a single fuck.
- Okay, but we have to pick the lesser ~~evil~~ senile candidate. We only have two choices. And even if a third party guy were to run, a vote for that guy would actually be a vote for one of the other two guys.
That’s a rough 4 years. But Biden takes care of himself…Trump, well…doesn’t.
Always has been

Fucking astounding. He's the frontrunner for the GOP.

"They're not sending their best people"
- Whoa. I didn’t realize he was only projecting when he said:
  They’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you. They’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. . . . They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists.

Clearly the ramblings of someone who should be president. /s

Clearly somehow some people don’t hear it as ramblings, but as someone who speaks like them and should be president again.
- See. All I hear is the impending doom of a country that de-funded public education.
- See? He tells it like it is! And what it is is that the debanking is trying to separate you from your country and that smell of toast we all keep smelling but no one else smells! Where is that ringing noise coming from???

Trump was a LLM hallucinating all along

GPT4 speaks more coherently.
- GPT-2 is more coherent than that. Hell, a Markov chain would produce more coherent output than Trump.
- Both confidently wrong
That explains pretty much everything. Like in a way that is kinda creepy.

Any other person saying this would be wheeled back into the old people's home.

Which is exactly who he's talking to, which is exactly the type of person that has the time to get out and vote when the time comes without really thinking about anything else.
Unfortunately, that old folks home would be the US Senate.

Belongs in c/aneurysmposting

I mean, no cognitive decline there...

That's classic trump, honestly. It's incoherent and insane, but not any different from the last decade.
- He has gone downhill. Not since 2016--he was about as bad then as he is now. But if you look at his interviews from the early 90s, it was clear he could at least string three words together and make some kind of sense.
  Here's an interview with him by Barbra Walters from 1990:
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TwVCuPJrMw
  Skip ahead to the three minute mark. He uses some of the same phrases that he does today, like "people need to understand the press is incredibly unfair in this country". It was clear back then that he was a scumbag, and Walters does not let him get away with his bullshit, but he can articulate a properly structured sentence.
- Pretty stable genius talk if you ask me ! /s
What? That's like the best definition of "wokism" I've ever seen!

Man, my Lemmy experience has been so much better after I added 'Trump' as filter keyword the Voyager app so I never see posts about that idiot again. And yet, here we are :-(

Aye. That guy overstimulated my brain by saying insane things every other day, every week straight for YEARS. Was in quite the stimuli-dump when he quit being front and center.
- Why do his ramblings have to be reported so much, even here on Lemmy? Yes we know he's a raging lunatic, no we don't want to hear his latest vocal diarrhea. If he ever recovers, or dies, now that would be newsworthy.

A brilliant speech. The best speech. One that should be carved in stone and immortalised like that of a Roman emperor’s.

Don’t know about you, but I’m despairing.
- Dis-pairing like, breaking up with your partner?
  Over a Trump speech?!?!
  Sounds like someone is taking this a bit hard.
Generals that fought in WW1 came up to him, got on their knees and cried saying it was the most brave thing that they've ever seen in their lives.
- Tears in their eyes
He's going to build a statue of himself like Bender's giant one. This speech will be carved into one of the legs.

It interesting he got this play from Nigel Farage in the UK. The global coordinated Right is a real concern.

Sounds like my dad; " Your Firefox things doesn't work" while Libreoffice on his PC couldn't print.

"Actually it's because HP's printer software is shit"
"What? That printer was $300. It's great! And it worked fine before you added these stupid Firefoxes"
- The printer randomly reconnects with a new MAC over USB (god knows how), registering as a new device. The WLAN interface died years ago and suddenly popped up again.
  But no, the printer is good, Firefox is at fault. 🙄
Even after using it for over a decade my dad still calls it FoxFire 🤦‍♂️
- I’m with your Dad …..

and i bet anything they fucking cheered

If we are going to have GPT as the PoUS, can it at least be GPT-4 and not GPT-2?

I'm gonna give the point to GPT-2 here in terms of coherence and eloquence.
- Trump isn't even LLM smart. He's just a racist Markov model.
2? Try -2.
- The idea of negative versions makes even less sense the original quote.
  Okay, maybe that was an overstatement. But still - it doesn't make much sense.

Reminds me of that late 70s smash hit:

🎵Debank my fire! Electric cars are my only desire!🎵

And funny it was from the car doors

Debank electric cars! Remove their rights today!

I think I got his message, right? It was kinda hard to parse and process

He's talking about investment funds that cut out fossil fuels from their portfolio and focus on green energy. You can probably find one in your retirement account if you want to allocate a certain percentage to it. I think they were trying to put a stop to it when he was still in office.
- Yes I think he's conflating/confusing
  -deplatforming
  -divesting
  -financial institutions choosing not to do business with some people/orgs
  But it really is incomprehensible.

Sounds like somebody is getting debanked...

Can I get his ketamine dealer’s details?

Reminds me of that scene from The Office where Michael is trying to best Oscar and makes an inspiring speech about nonsense and everyone starts to cheer.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5UPEbQjGLj8

00:42

Maybe instead of an minimum age, american presidents shoud have a minimum iq, but at this point a basic ability to speak and decent common sense would be too much to much to ask

Unfortunately IQ is a terrible test for that and we have to rely on people to make that decision. They've got a fetish for antiintellectualism though.

Sounds about as coherent as Biden. Fuck 'em both.

Found the fascist. I’d take a stutter over this rambling bullshit.
- I'd take both stuttering and rambling over a treasonous, vain, rapist, corrupt, racist, manipulative, wannabe-dictator.
  I mean seriously, people wanna talk about speech patterns over any of that shit?
Yeah well until we have ranked choice voting this is what you get to pick from. And the choice really does matter.
- Don't settle for RCV, it's a watered down option that allows party politics to continue largely unabated. If you want to argue for an alternative to FPTP that really forces them to earn your vote, talk about approval voting or Condorcet.
He was great in all those Naked Gun movies
I will pay you to find a single example of incoherence that comes anywhere near this.

Every time there is an quote from this guy it's hilarious. I need more of those, any ideas?

Yes, any social media platform for the next 5 years.
- Ah that's where I've been going wrong - not using those.
- I wonder if he would keep going after losing another time

I have the feeling a debate between two certain octogenarians wouldn't be the most intellectually stimulating show.

We should just hand them rapiers and let them get on with it.

powerbank

Is there a link to this clip? I tried to see it but couldn't find it...

From MSNBC
- Weird. I watched the live stream (well, a recording of it) and at about 2:25:00:00 ish, he talks about there being an imminent terrorist attack unless he's president. It will come from the south border bevaue "they" let unwanted people through like mental patients, criminals, etc.
  I don't and can't understand how this dude is the front runner again. AGAIN?!
- JFC.
  I can’t wait to vote against this cretin.

Ladies and gentlemen, the man sent by God himself to save the world.

It is projection.

...through a kaleidoscope.

I also convert all my cash into gold and bury it in my backyard.

/s

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Laurence Tribe 🇺🇦 ⚖️**@tribelaw

On Jan 17 Trump told a New Hampshire audience: "We're going to place strong protections to stop banks and regulators from trying to debank you from your—you know, your political beliefs, what they do. They want to debank you, and we're going to debank—think of this. They want to take away your rights. They want to take away your country. The things they're doing. All electric cars."

Sauce?

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I hate when people debank me...