InternetCitizen2 @ InternetCitizen2 @lemmy.world

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Yeah, I can't believe Marlboro chose evil.

Some discussion on how to keep your message active and why it matters to grow privacy awareness and activism. The NW guy was new to me and kinda a let down overall tbh

I am willing to believe that was not your intent, but you should take some self reflection of how your writing is being interpreted if that is the case.

Well, I guess I was wrong.

You framing the issues in terms of the CIA is dismissive of broader issues that these protest are taking on. By circling back to the CIA you are implicitly saying we don't need to take this seriously its just the CIA. I am willing to believe that was not your intent, but you should take some self reflection of how your writing is being interpreted if that is the case.

Of course there are legitimate problems and real tensions. When the US wants regime change, it never starts from scratch. It always leverages whatever fissures already exist.

Moving the conversation to what the US wants and keeping it there is rather dismissive. What the US wants is irrelevant. There are real issues that have nothing with what the CIA may or may not want. Simply saying that the CIA is a destabilizing force is a way to dismiss constructive criticism of what Mexicans want out of their representatives.

Your writing and tone is rather dismissive. Maybe you should put your pride to the side and read about what I am saying that there is much more happening here than just the CIA

Notice that I wrote about a Mayor and a 43? Those are morphing into a catch all of all kinds of violence and government and socity inability to reform. Not all of that has anything to do with the CIA.

We deserve countries free from US interference.

We do. I am simply pointing out that my fellow lemms here are being dismissive of real issues by simply saying it is due to the CIA.

Well the article and your comments dismissing much of the social tensions and just skipping to foreign interference does make the tone of your writing as telling them that

I think you should re-read what I said and read what others are also saying on the matter.

There are a lot of reasons why mexican institutions are weak. Does that mean we should dismiss grievances at their lack of transparency and accountability as the CIA because Morena happens to be in power? Cartel violence has infact terrorized Mexicans for decades now and have killed many other politicians before as well. Mind you the killing of a mayor and feeling that Morena is soft on cartel violence are some of the grievances of these protests. You and the article are deflecting on this and trivializing the pain of those who live there as just another CIA op (which note that I never said the CIA wouldn't try and do something in some chaos). It is rather patronizing that westerners on this comm are trying to dismiss the whole thing.

And I didn't say they wouldn't try to do something, but I am calling out for dismissing the issues of people who live there and trivializing their grievances as just the CIA.

Do you want to point out where I said the US might not try something? Did you read the part where I am explaining that people have some unresolved issues?

It is rather patronizing to have westerners tell others "thats not the problem you are having this is the real issue. You have no problems with the current admin just with the CIA".

When the US wants regime change

And statements such as those are trivializing and minimizing what they are saying. The institutions in Mexico are very weak and Morena has not done that much to fortify them. They now have even more judicial and legislative power too. People feel the influence of cartels is still too strong and government accountability too low. People don't talk about the 43 anymore, but I don't remember any clouse coming from it. But the main point is that simply being dismissive and saying the CIA is behind this is lazy and gross. I don't even doubt that they are there, but still there are real issues here.

Some interesting points, but just pro government takes and minimizing real problems have with the admin.

Many do see reforms as stalling even as Sheinbaum has more unity of government branches. AMLOs take of abrazos no balazos was mixed and people still feel unsure.

She's in a difficult position to be sure.

Highest healthcare costs. Largest disparity between lowest and highest compensated.

Fr, there were a few interesting things said on why privacy matters, but WP was new to me and turn into a let down.

I'd like ancaps to realize we live in their version of anarchy right now. The this GS they say suck now are the reasons no one likes more of their ideas.

I don't think that's the case. Its just too big an oversight.

Still complex gear needs a supply chain, so getting on the bad side of the USA still grounds your air wing.

As a Texan, its over rated.

Don't ignore the sound 😷

Don't ignore the sound 😷