Former President Joe Biden diagnosed with 'aggressive' prostate cancer
Former President Joe Biden diagnosed with 'aggressive' prostate cancer
Biden's office announced his illness Sunday afternoon.
fuck, i prayed for this but it hit the wrong president
Tbf, Trump's health is shrouded in so much subterfuge that you could have gotten the right president but we just don't know it.
I mean, given the fact that this affected Joe Biden up until this announcement, and no medical examiner announced it previously, it does seem plausible.
biden is a scumbag, always has been pimp for lobbyist and aipac cancer. you murder kids for money this is what he should get and hopefully worse in afterlife.
Fuck these down voters.
No harm done
Naaa there are just two buttons and both of them can be pressed.
I would bungee jump on them.
metastasis to the bone
Yeah, he's not making it.
The guy's also 82, so it's not like he has a long road ahead of him regardless of this.
While this represents a more aggressive form of the disease, the cancer appears to be hormone-sensitive which allows for effective management.
Feels like more of the same strategy of downplaying Biden’s symptoms. I bet when he dies they’ll deny it for a few days.
I don’t disagree that there is a strategy of downplaying not just Biden’s, but every politician’s health conditions.
I used to have this absolutely incredible writing professor, who, at 85, told us on the first day of class that he was dying, and had been for 4 years. He even had a blog about his reflections on mortality that he invited us to read. He had prostate cancer. I don’t remember the details, but they couldn’t operate to remove it or do chemo, but it was the kind that is hormone sensitive. They gave him a drug that destroyed his body’s ability to produce testosterone, so the cancer just stopped growing. He died at 90 - 9 years after his diagnosis. 10% extra life for him.
No two people and prognosis’ are alike but the possibility exists they might be telling the truth about managing it.
Toward what end? I don't think you're thinking this through.
the form is still hormone sensitive so its treatable, to an extent, obvious with metasis is lower, but prostate usually have good prognosis, but that depends other factors.
much like breast cancers that are hormone sensitive, they are treatable, the ones that triple negative or the rare IBC those are very aggressive and they are not affected by anti-hormone therapy.
I heard recently it's incredibly common for men to get diagnosed with prostate cancer and then just die normally from something else. Likely the same happens with him
It should have happened to Trump. Not that Biden is a good guy, but it would be nice if Trump died of an ass related illness.
I'm not convinced Trump is healthy. I bet he has a plethora of health issues but the paid-off doctors aren't releasing the information.
I mean, we know his health report was a sham. The dude reported that Trump only has like 5% body fat. Even the most shredded body builders struggle to hit 5%.
This is so like medieval times where we just are praying that the king dies.
He won't ever get cancer or get sick or catch a disease. He will be "poisoned by the radical left" and Maggots will say "they've gone too far" and calls to ban the party from the shithole MAGAs will come out along the words "treason" being thrown out there.
If he goes the fuck away from old age (which is more likely based on how reality works) he will be "assassinated."
No matter how his end will be, there will be calls to prosecute and execute "traitors responsible." If he does become president for life the "traitor" will be coincidentally the candidate on the opposing party. That's if by that point if we even have elections a anymore. He could be geriatric in a fucking wheelchair and they will say this mark my words.
Because they know after trump they will be utterly fucked to legally be elected back to power. (At least I hope)
Anything is possible. Prostate cancer is far more common than most people realize....there is an easy to remember true statistic -- 80% of all men over 80 have prostate cancer. That's 4 out of 5. It very often tends to be so slow growing that it's simply not an issue, really, you'll have more pressing health concerns that will kill you first.
It's good to check, then once it is identified, either dealt with or monitored with regular frequency.
It has already metastasized in his bones, so it's much more aggressive than most prostate cancers. After metastasizing there, three 5-year survival rate is about 33% with a median survival time of 21 months. But it's also very rare for it to have already spread elsewhere before being caught, so I'm assuming that means that this is even more aggressive than normal and that 21 months would be optimistic. But I'm not a medical professional, so I can't say how valid this assumption is.
yes, but for most of those men it's a cancer they die with, rather than one they die from.
its slow growing from what ive heard, but biden had a aggressive type, which would be different, since aggressive types usually have different mutations and genetics compared to the "slow growing ones". even with something like melanoma, there are more than one type: nodular, subungul,,,,etc. some cancers can be indentified by the type of gene mutations they have thats specific to that cancer
I know it's possible, but I also get the impression he's going to outlive all of us somehow.
What if I stick my finger up my ass? Can I check it myself? Cause I just can't afford the doctor bill. I heard about the guy that took out his own appendix. I feel like this is a little bit less invasive and a little kinky. What do you think?
Both of them are going to be on the elevator down when their time comes.
Their only chance is in making something nearly impossible happen so that their destination is frozen over when they get there.
ass related illness
Now there's a phrasing...
Putting my hopes on infected hemorrhoids
He probably got a dirty ass.
With all the ass kissing his cabinet does, he's sure to get something. Probably why he stays away from MTG these days.
"Yoav Galant is a pretty good guy."
Thank goodness he lives in a country where the cancer hospitals haven't been bombed out of existence with weapons funded by the United States under the leadership of Joe Biden.
Honestly I've been wondering since the debates if he had a bad UTI when he crashed and burned. It's not uncommon for them to cause confusion or even delirium in that age group and I seem to recall a lot of vague comments from his team saying he'd been 'sick'.
Yeah "You've got stage 4 cancer. You won't make it through 4 more years." is probably the only way to get those old bluedog democrats to gtfo of office.
The PSA test is no longer suggested, as more people were injured from complications caused by procedures that false positives caused then people saved.
My dad almost died from a complication due to a biopsy. About 20 years later, he got prostate cancer which was detected without a PSA test, treated, and is now cancer free.
Stage 4 cancer with metastasis? Not gonna make it. No amount of money or power can stop a dead man walking.
But it does make ya wonder why he wanted to run for a second term. He probably won't make it to the end of the current administration.
He won't live long enough to see the major impact of slow rolling Trump's arrest.
I wish cancer got the other guy, but I feel no sympathy for an old racist who betrayed various words and didn't fight back against the fascist hard enough.
But it does make ya wonder why he wanted to run for a second term.
Look at the average age of congress. Look at what Dianne Feinstein was doing at the end of her life. They don't want power. It's all automatic to them at this point. They don't know now to do anything else then grab and hold as much power as possible without any reason or purpose.
It is interesting that the medical examination before and during his presidency should have included cancer examination? I thought it is common practice to do a test every 2 years or so..
But it does make ya wonder why he wanted to run for a second term.
That's no mystery. If there were primaries, someone to his left might win them.
But it does make ya wonder why he wanted to run for a second term. He probably won’t make it to the end of the current administration.
There are already conspiracy theories going around that he kept his medical issues (dementia, cancer, etc) a closely guarded secret whilst running for re-election.
As for why I think Biden wanted to run for a second term, my guess is that his plan was to stand down and effectively proxy the United States' first female leader in that way. Harris would have otherwise been eviscerated in the primaries.
He won’t live long enough to see the major impact of slow rolling Trump’s arrest.
Dude, with the way Trump is handling things, the 2026 midterms and 2028 presidential elections are going to be about as Fair and Balanced™ as a Fox News broadcast.
Why can't the current president get aggressive cancer? Everyone would love that (although I would pity the cancer).
I'd feel sorry for the cancer
Goven that cancer is just your own body, you don't need to pity the cancer, as the cancer is also trump 🤓🤓
He probably will and we'll have a big ol' party!
Por que no los dos?
I guess I wasn't thinking joe biden shouldn't have cancer just that donald trump definitely should.
with the amount of preservatives he got from eating mcdonalds, its probably very difficult for him to get it.
What are these comments? You people are vile.
Either post on reddit and get a mix of Nazis and Russian bots.
Or post on Lemmy and get dumb fucks that idolize Russia or China and don't even understand what communism is they just know it's "cool" to be against capitalism.
Also never vote, but simultaneously blame the Democrats for everything.
Tbf it is pretty cool to be against capitalism.
Yeah what's up with that? We now cool with China? What?
Don't buy Tesla, but buy slave made cars from BYD! WHO LITERALLY RUNS SLAVE CAMPS OUTSIDE OF CHINA.
What. The. Fuck. Internet.
China is a capitalist country, Russia is a capitalist country, America is a capitalist country, and right now the United States is committing a genocide in Gaza, because Americans have been conditioned to not care about Muslim people. Yet at the same time, our government is working with arab countries that are oppressive (with kings) and are known to have commited human rights abuses. Also, they played the part in 9/11. If this Jesus ever came back, you would just nail his ass back on the cross again. You smell like new born babe. I like the confidence but you seem confused. The United States uses some of its allies to coordinate and commit terrorist acts. And before you call me a Russian troll or a useful idiot, just know that all these capitalist countries do this. I mean, don't you remember India just killing people in Canada? or the Saudi douche bags that killed that journalist who had his body chopped up into pieces?If you're a serious person, you know this. The world is capitalistic and the wealth is consolidated at the top. There is not much money in the public sector and because the United States affects the world economically, the rest of the world is thrown into turmoil. There is a new economic system called BRICS. It's challenging the petrol dollar. Basically, we're approaching the beginning of the end. And pretty soon, they're going to start using tactical nukes, which are low yield. COVID-19 was a biological weapon. Your government lies to you at every opportunity. You are nothing but cattle. Just to give you some, I don't know, perspective you could read about Edward Bernays. Also, look up imperialism. Also, you could learn about hegemony. Oh child, you have so much to learn. Oh yeah, maybe you should learn about Alan Dulles. ....During World War II, we financed the Nazis. Then, towards the end of the war, we used the Catholic Church, who was complicit and also had fascist elements inside of it and still does, to traffic, German scientist, to Argentina, and South America, and the United States, in which they worked on our rocket program to compete against the Soviet Union. these human trafficking pathways were called rat lines. The Book of History never closes and it's just constant war. That's all we do is war. And if there's any innovation out there, most likely it's going to be turned into a weapon or it came from the research from the military industrial complex because we don't invest any real meaningful capital in anything other than learning how to kill women and children more efficiently. People like you just live in denial. But I mean, if we were friends in real life, I'd be busting out books, articles, all trusted sources. This isn't some QAnon nonsense. This is real fucking life. I mean, if communism is a good idea or a bad idea, it's still understandable that the kids of today are just kind of sick and tired of this bullshit exponential madness of capitalism. Populism is on the rise because this is what happens with capitalism in crisis. Fascist are the useful idiots of empire and America is an imperialist empire. I mean, you could say, oh, this is some kind of byproduct, oooooor it's by design. And if you watch the cash flow and the money markets, you understand why things are the way they are. This is clearly intentional. And then why don't you look into BlackRock? It's just a labyrinth and we're all walking into the trap as we argue with each other and it's just generation after generation of just lazy thinking. Each generation in this country live less meaningful lives. It just gets worse. Those homeless people that you drive by and look at like animals in the zoo, just realize one day that could be you. There is no war but the class war and capitalism is global. There is no communism. Today is a world of capitalism. Also dig through some of the CIA files in the reading room on their website. You'll find a lot of stuff that's kind of revealing and insightful. America isn't really locked down. It's just people are lazy and they just don't learn about how things work. Also, people will go out and share their opinions even though they did no work to have those opinions. If I knew you would actually listen, I would give you the links. But I mean, now anything goes and everybody's a liar, I guess. It's like Plato's allegory of the cave. And all the people that do the bidding of this disinformation campaign are the ones that are going to suffer for it. I mean, things are not improving in this country. And eventually, you know, even you or... Some successful person will eventually fall victim to unemployment. Your currency is devaluing every single day. And now they have come up with crypto in which they can completely control everything you do with your money. But they kind of already could have done that with your bank account. Your money's not baked backed by anything that's real. It's really just monopoly money with faith. And the only reason it has value is because the United States enforces that value with its violence and the world's getting sick of it. But yet the world doesn't have a better system. So it's almost guaranteed that the world probably go up in flames. I don't know, we'll see, stay tuned.
also in Israel the settlers, the apocalyptic accelerationist are being listened to more and more. And there are certain elements in Israel's government that are even more extreme than Netanyahu. Before the war and even now Israel is on the brink of a civil war. Israels leaders have intentions of going beyond just Iran and Palestine. America using it as a puppet but yet struggles to keep it from going outside the lines of acceptable behavior. The world now outside of the little hug box of America dumb fuckery views Israel as a unprofessional army. I mean, give it some time, baby, if we're still around. You know, I've lived long enough to see it shift. Have you heard of the Dead Man Switch? That's linked to Russia's nuclear weapons? That was during the Cold War. I wonder what they have now. And then the tech bros in the United States are talking about having AI run our nuclear weapons. I mean you need to try harder. I know you probably got a job and hobbies and you don't want to spend time on this but I just think you just probably shouldn't share your opinions. Everything that I've talked about is actually true. If you look hard enough you will find all these accusations to Be True oh yeah, one more thing. They're using open source intelligence with Peter Thiel's Palantir to pick targets by scraping Twitter. So some snot-nose kid pretending to be an intelligence officer is making post online and then they're shooting rockets at those locations and just recently they were accused of killing innocent civilians and that person shut down their account and I guess donated some money to charity and they felt awful for what they did. Oh child, oh child you know nothing. I mean shit. I'd rather have communism than what we have today. When you are sheltered, possibly wealthy, you really don't feel the effects of these things. But the spectrum is shifting, and so as you get older, you will become poorer. And it will be eventually noticeable. Justice will be served. Thank God all men die. No war but the class war. (Already down voted hahahah)
The Joe Biden legacy is literal genocide. What kind of insane person do you have to be to not be happy about this? This is objectively awesome.
You don’t have to be insane to not be happy about this. I believe in ‘harm reduction’, which is to say: If joe biden were still president, i would probably not be upset if some medical condition removed him from the presidency, because then he could no longer actively do harm from his position of power.
But now? He has almost no active power or influence over anything. His suffering doesn’t benefit me or reverse any previous harms he’s caused.
Isn't every American presidents legacy genocide? Why is it so much more front and center for biden?
Joe Biden is a limp dick idiot and I'm glad he's fucking dying. hahahhaha thank God all men die.
Not as vile as Biden himself
Don't pretend you wouldn't be happy if Trump got a slow painful thing happening to him.
I'd take up celebratory drinking for one day
With all the best doctors the presidents have, they discover it only at the fourth stage?
I'm a lowly peasant and my work let me do a yearly blood+pee test, I assumed that for presidents it would be something like a weekly checkup
It’s likely that they knew a long time ago but they are just now announcing it. This would probably also explain why he was so mentally foggy or, seeming like he had dementia. Many cancer drug drugs can do that toyou.
If that's the case he was even more wrong about running than everyone assumed.
So glad he wanted to run for a second term then, especially after promising to be a one term president. /sarcasm
This was exactly my first thought.
And if so, that’s a double “fuck you” to Joe and everyone on his staff trying to keep this shit under wraps.
He should have just resigned the goddamn Presidency when he was first diagnosed JFC
he had covid, at that time too.
It could have developed between regular prostate massages exams.
cancers can grow very quickly in the short amount of time, only takes weeks for a tumor to grow large suddenly if its an aggressive type. also many cancers, like melanoma can spread with a small tumor extremely fast. the staging depends on how much its spread, and also by the biopsy how much it infilitrated the layers of tissues.
Would have changed nothing.
The left would have cried that whoever wasn't X enough, the right would have rallied around the Second Coming of their True Messiah.
The Russian playbook is now well-tuned to its audience, our morons.
When will the left learn that the president has to be pro genocide and have no plan to ease the upcoming financial suffering of young people. The left simply wants too much
The real problem was the Democratic party making tactically poor move after tactically poor move. They were too obsessed with imperial support of Israel to do the right thing for US interests and the voters. They were too "anti-communist" to consider not banning TikTok and alienating younger voters. They were willing to cede the narrative to the right constantly. They refused to give the left any progressive policy goals to chew on despite us yelling about how much all of this would fuck with turnout.
For the past 2 years, they thought corporate ads and ultraconservative libs would win the election, when that wasn't what helped them in the midterms, hasn't been the playbook in decades, and was just what let them hang out with their "good ole Republican friends" who they really wish they could ally with like in the 90s. It was a load of interpersonal bullshit, purposefully engineered by the ruling class to ensure the Democratic leadership would never sacrifice capitalism for liberal democracy's sake.
I'm tired and disgusted of this "blame the left" narrative, especially since plenty of liberals could tell that this was the Democrat's biggest issue for quite a while. They never did anything to address it because the fix wasn't easy. They went with the easy solution and expected voters to pick up the slack. That's not how electoral politics works; Lazy, irresponsible bastards
this is exactly the garbage a israeli or superpac bot will say. why does the blue maga never whine about ultrarich and aipac ? they influence our elections a million times more than anything else. warren was going to be vp and would have been president today if superpacs wouldn’t have forced their puppet harris on us who got destroyed in the primaries. and aipac, lol we all know saying anything other than israel is the true messiah is the death of any politician carrier or even an actual death.
Oh right I almost forgot that the standard for president of the United States means not fucking everything up, not acturally doing anything good. Forgive me for expecting anything from the corrupt corporate elites or the superpacs that fund them. Im sure another four years of incompetent Democratic rule where they do absolutely nothing will really convince the American people not to vote far right. It worked for Carter, Clinton, Obama and Biden.
Do you think you're blameless? Do you think you're innocent?
The American public is pretty stupid. I'll give you that. But I think we also give too much credit to Russia. All capitalist countries Fuck with elections. But I think it's the politicians that pay Russian elements to do their nefarious operations. The world of computer hacking is a mixture of supposed good guys and criminals. It's a great market and the people that have the most access to this is people with money and who have power. The lines are truly blurred.
Yep but who are they going to bring in? Another Democrat puppet
This guy wanted another term this time last year.
[Edit] Oh, and some of you all thought it was a good idea. Lol.
You can't really predict stage 4 cancer in your life plans, but it was clear to anyone paying attention that he was not fit for the office anymore.
Still would have voted his ticket over a fascist megalomaniac.
This also may explain some of the cognitive stuff being so acute in the last year.
I really thought we were gonna Weekend at Bernie’s, this last election, and wheel that man into the Oval Office even if he had the remaining cognitive ability of a houseplant - because such an administration would still be better than the alternative. But, I was wrong, and here we all are.
Bro.
A chihuahua on crystal meth would do a better job than Trump.
A coma patient who doesn't wake up would do a better job than Trump.
I would say that The Devil would do a better job than Trump, but that's kind of like trying to divide by zero.
I'm satanic and so I've got it on good authority that he'd do a damn fine job. Plus free cover to his club, full nudity is permitted, full public sex is encouraged. Main talking points are all that other stuff like saving humanity, body autonomy, protection for marginalized people... and the club access and sex...
Does Trump's plan include any of this? I rest my case. :P
the devil (the first archangel)is actually smart, compared to trump.
Did he, or did his team take advantage of a doddering, senile old man because they wanted to keep their cushy jobs?
With the release of his interviews over having classified materials it's clear to me that he wasn't making his own decisions and if he thought he was still competent and capable that's because the people around him were lying to him and telling he was. He was clearly at a point where he could no longer accurately assess those kind of things about himself, and was thus relying on outside input. When that outside input is enabling the idea that he is competent, that's not the fault of a man on the edge of senility.
Leave Brittany Biden alone, especially now that he is likely to die from a horrific disease. Blame this on the correct parties, those around him enabling the idea that he needed to run again, which were his aides who didn't want to lose their cushy positions.
I'd still take a dying Biden over this shit show, are you kidding me?
No he just wanted to beat 45, he wanted his VP to be president, cause she was a carbon copy establishment Dem that would protect the status quo, why do you think she didnt change any major platform positions when she took over? Cause it was already her campaign.
Biden has cancer, what's Trump's excuse? 😕
Trump IS the cancer
he is the personification of mcdonalds cancer.
God, thats fucking terrible. We put him through the riger the last couple years & now this? This is the worst timeline.
I don't know about you, but I wanted him to stop working when he was 74 and enjoy the rest of his life with his family like people should be allowed to do much younger than that, not start working again at 78.
I have absolutely no guilt over what happened at the tail end of his presidency, I tried to keep him from being in that position at all.
Lucky for him he’ll get the best medical treatment on the planet. Meanwhile if I broke a leg I’d be destitute
Why tf do Americans reward America with their skills and education? The captain of your sinking country is throwing citizens overboard, and you remain in line? Move!?
“Move?!”
You make it sound like moving houses. Just pack your shit and drive off. Most countries don’t want us, especially if someone wasn’t born lucky enough to be able to go to college, and has some formal education. Even if that was easy, it’s fucking EXPENSIVE. thousands of dollars. A lot of us are barely getting by, and a lot more don’t have the luxury of spending thousands to go to another country. And all that, to move to a place where you won’t have citizenship without lots of work, and hell, If facism takes over that country I’ll get kicked out. Not to mention leaving my entire family behind.
All this assumes I’m moving to an English speaking country, otherwise I’ll have a language barrier at the same time I’m trying to rebuild my entire existence in a new place with unfamiliar culture.
There’s probably so much more. It’s not impossible, but for me it’s not feasible at this time. I desperately wish it was.
Edit: sorry if I came off as a dick here, it’s just frustrating seeing the thing I want so bad (to leave) simplified so much. Especially if you didn’t grow up here.
I am trying to talk my husband into moving. I can probably land the job in the EU I am interviewing for, but he does NOT want to move. He doesn't want to leave the small amount of community we have. He doesn't want to overreact in fear to this administration. He doesn't want to give up our home and our lifestyle (the EU pays substantially less across many industries). Our parents are getting older and sicker; it's hard to move abroad when you know there's probably only a handful of years left with them, especially when you have children.
I think the Internet discounts how difficult it can be to uproot.
Skills and education? Most Americans have neither of those things. We are a disposable people and that’s exactly what the corporate slaveowners want. We can’t escape because we are less valuable to other countries which means it’s easier to exploit us. What are we going to do about it, kill our masters? That’s not nice.
The captain of your sinking country is throwing citizens overboard, and you remain in line? Move!?
Hahahahahahaha... you sound like one of our republicans.
I work as a biomed, a sector of repairing medical equipment that is a sought after career field, desperately needed. Been doing it for five years, and I like to think I'm damn good at my job.
I also only have an associates degree.
There are not many countries that will take me with only that associates degree. It's like I tell conservatives who do the "Don't like it, move", being from the US isn't some special wonderful status that gets us open doors into other countries. Other countries don't want us like the Republicans don't want foreigners from other countries, unless they're wealthy.
Outside of a few essentially third world countries that I could save up a few grand and bribe my way into, there really aren't any countries that are too keen on accepting Usians for citizenship. You might have better luck if you have a doctorate and speak the local language fluently.
I had a buddy that expatriated to South Korea years ago to teach English, but I think last time I checked in he was still juggling work visas and had no real chance of being a citizen.
I could be wrong though, I haven't checked in on him in a while.
I'm working on my plan.
This comment section shows that even on decentralized, less mainstream platforms there's a lot of people behaving similarly to what would be called bots on Reddit. Come on, guys, we can do better than this.
We can acknowledge Joe Biden's crimes and failures without cheering his sickness and wishing him a painful death. Same with Donald Trump and all the other scummy politicians.
We can also disagree about various policies, issues or parties while treating each other with respect and an open mind, instead of degrading all discussion to 'communism vs capitalism' or 'democracy vs fascism' arguments.
I know it can be difficult to remain civil towards government officials who are essentially criminals, and anyone who supports or seems to support them in any capacity. However, I personally think we should try.
No Trump definitely deserves a painful one.
I’m also okay with a permanent coma where you can visit him and piss in his mouth.
He is a genocidal criminal vile person, responsible for the death of THOUSANDS of children. My sympathy is over a long time ago.
I have not checked out Reddit but are you telling me that Reddit is more based than lemmy.world? Maybe it is time to move back.
FJB
Who's misusing the Monkey Paw for wishes? Be specific next time!
Wishing him all the best. I have seen quite a few men die to that disease (no one dies of prostate cancer but it spreads really fast and to really bad places).
Good luck Biden.
Wow, downvote galore you have, people are horrible.
This is sad. Taking into account of how he was treated by the DNC and how 2024 went down, this is just the shit cherry on the shit sundae.
The DNC made him their king in 2020 in order to prevent a Bernie presidency. In return, biden refused to step down until it was too late in 2024, fucking up the whole primary process. To this day, biden thinks "I'm the guy who can defeat trump" when he was carried and dressed up entirely by the DNC, big media, and trump's shitty handling of covid. He's an absolute asshole whose entire political career has only made the country worse overall. A sprinkling of good things like a tiny bit of student loan forgiveness (loans that exist because of the work he put in decades ago forcing student loans to persist through bankruptcy) does not absolve this asshole of the massive amounts of damage he's done.
It is sad, but the DNC should never have run him for 2024.
The dnc didn't want to risk having a candidate to biden's left.
I don't have empathy for genocidal war criminals. Fuck Cancer tho.
This is the real correct response tbh.
I hope your dad lives a long healthy life. Biden's already lived a long one.
I always love the cognitive dissonance people have seeing others hope that a man directly responsible for a metric ton of civilian deaths, succumbing to a painful death, is not ethically correct.
I mean people seem to have zero issue with United Healthcare. Exorbitant Healthcare costs is the equivalent of death, but literally bombing hospitals and refugee camps isn't?
Not to mention that he'll be receiving the latest and greatest in medical aid anyway, so there's a fair chance he'll survive. A lot of geriatric asshat world leaders contracted covid and still lived.
I can't even tell if this is DNC shilling because several people have implied they would treat Trump the same. Wth kind of moral compass are yall following lol?
The comparison of Biden to the UHC CEO is disingenuous, because their motivations were completely different. The CEO did it to maximize profit while Biden did it because he thought it was the right thing to do.
I still completely disagree with Biden’s assessment, but it’s very clear he wasn’t doing it for personal gain.
Biden did it because he thought it was the right thing to do.
Biden did it because it was the best option available to him at that time.
He either played ball with AIPAC or got shut down by them. He didn't have the points to oppose them. It didn't make it right, there is blood on his hands. In hindsight, he never had a chance and could have at least made a showing to stop it.
If he hadn't done it, he would have assuredly lost to Trump, who would do it anyway (as we've seen). He needed to get in to hit the brakes or it would have been for naught anyway. Harris had the same problem, barely enough points to show, AIPAC would have smothered her as well.
I'd like to say that they would definitely have stopped it if AIPAC wasn't standing at their neck with a knife, but I don't know that for sure.
I'd also like to say that if they would have stopped it, we'd all have joined to them and voted our asses off in swing states and made the decision work. But honestly, I have less faith in the US people than I have in the Democrats, and that's saying something.
Biden literally said that he knew that Netanyahu who was using his bombs to "carpet bomb civilians."
there’s a fair chance he’ll survive.
Don't say stuff like that
No no you see his bombs that killed people and ignoring of COVID was good so being happy is bad.
And Trump's bombs that killed people and ignoring of COVID was bad, so being happy is good.
Why yes I am morally consistent and not at all blinded by my love of politicians who don't know I exist or care for me. I'm a good American!!
directly
Sorry, what?
Remind me again — Was Biden Israel's Prime Minister?
It may help to inform your confusion if you start looking at things with a bit more nuance than these stark black-and-white takes. If you want, I can try to walk you down this road.
Biden directly sent the bombs he knew were going to be used to bomb those hospitals to Israel and then lied that those bombs were not being used to bomb hospitals.
No no, you see, Biden personally wrote the order to bomb civilians. And Trump, obviously, stopped all the bombing. That's why these people didn't vote for Harris. Totally morally justified to cheer on a painful death-by-cancer.
We're the good guys. It's OK when we do it.
The difference between Biden and UH's CEO is that Biden is retired, so him dying does not help stop the war in Gaza. Are you familiar with the concept of moral desert?
I don't think like this person, because I simply hate Hitler too much, but I hope some day I can be as sensible as her:
But some effective altruist once wrote that, if she had the option to give Hitler a nice dream — immediately before he died of suicide so it couldn’t strengthen him to commit more atrocities, and secretly so no one would be incentivized to commit the Holocaust — she would. Because she thinks it is good, all things equal, for Hitler to be happy.
Lmao you people are literally delirious and probably incompatible with real life society at all
It’s like you pull every bad take from Reddit and dial it to 10x
Such is the consequence of lack of human contact
It’s like you pull every bad take from Reddit and dial it to 10x
Said the lemm.ee user lmao
Soon he'll be stopping black kids from getting education in Heaven 😊
Perpetrator is more accurate.
This guy ... https://youtu.be/dbn4i7_CFIM
When a genocidal war criminal gets a horrific terminal cancer, it is certainly cause for celebration.
It is horrifying to see that people here empathize with Genocide Joe.
RIP BOZO
Yet, your father is a part of the working class. He is also a part of the proletariat, and he is a victim of government propaganda. The same people that fought revolutions were idiots at one point until they came to realize that their government was tyrannical. We have to have class solidarity. I wish your father a good recovery but Joe Biden that mother fucker can suffer and die
As usual, old fuckers don't have to live with the consequences of their (in)actions.
Well at least that definitely puts a stop to any misguided second term ambitions.
Pretty fucking classless dude 👎
You know what's really classless? Biden sending billions in weapons to a country committing genocide. Also the crime bill. Don't forget about making student loan non-dischargable through bankruptcy, creating the student loan crisis. We have Biden to thank for all these "classy" acts, plus him being so starved for power that he dropped out too late and gave an advantage to the trump campaign.
I don't mind. It's true and important for the future of everyone. Biden's fucking around at the beginning of the last election cycle helped getting the current authoritarian who ignores the constitutional separation of powers elected. I also wish the shooter had hit, that's also classless. The personal fates of these two old dudes are almost insignificant compared to their effects on the world, and I think accordingly.
I wonder how the reaction here would be if trump had this happen to him instead. Fuck being polite about awful people.
Nice both siding there
You must've been asleep for biden's entire career, including as recently as over the last year where he sent billions in weapons to an ethnostate actively committing genocide. Glad you're well rested.
There are no sides in usa. Dems and Reps are the same genocidal anti-people pro-billionair parties.
Its the same side.
.world would probably ban everyone saying "why are you so rude to Trump?"
He deserves worse for his support of genocide
A lot of people in here seem to support genocide.
If supporting genocide is your "lesser evil," you need to reevaluate your moral compass.
Trump has imposed sanctions on the ICC, the International Criminal Court, because they ruled against Israel.
This has actively harmed the ICC in their mission.
USAID was feeding Gaza, Trump has ordered the food to rot in storage rather than disburse it.
And there are dozens of other things that Trump has gleefully done to specifically hurt Palestinians.
While the lesser evil was bad, the greater evil is so much worse.
ooh shit you're right, Harm reduction is evil.
I'll be sure to tell that to the millions of families that have needlessly died since Trump stepped on the genocide gas because it's all just numbers right?
I've seen zero people supporting genocide.
I get that, but his competition is downright gleeful about it.
I'm told you absolutely can be president and still relax on your golf course while setting the world on fire through Shitter.
Fair play to him for taking the difficult route instead.
Its fine, he was playing bingo and sitting in a bench while he was president. Also took a lot of naps and vacation days.
Pretty sure being "stressed out" is not the cause of cancer
I think that's not the point being made here. The point is that some people might prefer a calm, quiet life for their last years instead of having to deal with the stress of being president of one of the biggest countries on earth.
it does make diseases worst, but not a cause and can trigger things like latent herpes infections.
God had mercy on this genocidal war criminal by giving him a portion of his punishment on earth
What a hateful and dumb thing to say. What is wrong with you?
Just banned Ensign_Crab for standing up to a mod's bullshit too.
Reddit, Lemmy, whatever comes next, it's always ruined by basement dwelling incel mods. The only difference is these mods love communism without even understanding what it is. Horseshoe theory goes hard.
You're kind for thinking of me, but that was on another comm and not sitewide. Anyone who wants specifics can message me or check my modlog.
Please don't wish cancer on people. It's gross behavior.
EDIT: and he's started harassing me in PM's. I was right about being gross.
This morning while driving to work I heard on NPR that doctors recommend screenings for people between 50 and 60 years of age. The guy said that older people like 70's and 80's have more problems and I missed exactly what the reasoning other than aggravating them with one more problem was for not screening that group actively.
But you and I know. Its simple! 50 and 60 year olds are still working do they got money. 80 year olds don't have money. No reason to screen them. Sure the treatments work...kinda sorta. But the treatments are expensive. So if you're 80 its not important that they find your cancer because they can't make money from you. If you're well to do, then sure, we can try our methods. But if you got no money, there's no point. What are you going to do anyway with no job and no money. Even if you could pay, then what? Sell the car and house and live on the streets? Would that be worse? Not really the doctors don't care if they got paid. Its all about the money.
Thanks, Obama. /s
I wish him ease of his suffering in direct proportion to how much he eased innocent Palestinians suffering. Seems only fair.
Well I mean having that disgusting drumpf crawling up your ass daily just seems like it would cause cancer...
Who fuckin cares
No one can say he wasnt a consequential president. Maybe not good consequences, but definitely consequences.
Remember the "putin is going mad because he has cancer" headlines?
Is Trump handling the gaza war better right now?
To conservatives, "handling" a region where the population is a different skin color and religion is removing it. So—if you asked Trump's supporters, you would get an enthusiastic "yes" as a response.
Who the fuck talked about trump in this post? Why do we always need to say “oh yes but Hitler was worse” Yea, no shit sherlock. God damn.
Dude, even I don't hate him that much.
What I find so annoying is how there are so many people (outside of this platform) who are just shocked and devastated about this news. I am over here like...the man is in his eighties. He is an elderly man. We should not be that surprised about some illness popping up at that age.
Your downvotes are fucking badge of honour. Disgusting.
No amount of pain is enough. He lived way too long.
thanks for putting my thoughts in words
genocidal biden, may you rot in hell!!!
all men die
And there it is
You suckers for propaganda still blaming Biden for Israel, but never the Congress that approved foreign aid to Israel, never the Republicans who this very moment are trying to remove the Palestinians from Gaza…. Cool, keep harping on that and ignore whatever the fuck Trump & Co. are doing to this nation. And to Gaza…
Russians found America's greatest weakness:
Most of us are pathetic whiners who will use any excuse to not actually do something meaningful.
Give them a chance to whine online, they'll put up with LITERAL fascism.
They used the exact same techniques to steer the GOP towards their evil dixiecrat core.
but never the Congress that approved foreign aid to Israel, never the Republicans who this very moment are trying to remove the Palestinians from Gaza
Of course I blame all of those people too, what the hell are you talking about? They should all be tried and hanged in a Super Nuremberg. The only tragedy in Joe Biden's cancer is that he won't live to face justice for the atrocities he committed over his long and comfortable life. I have hope that all the monsters in congress and both party apparatuses will hang one day.
They also seem to think the conflict/occupation started October 7
Biden had the opportunity to fix it, and not propagate evil.
He did nothing. He maintained the status quo. And gleefully handed it off to the next fascist.
He is as evil and complicit as everyone else.
Yet despite the cancer’s apparent aggressiveness, its hormone-sensitive nature offers a viable treatment pathway, according to the National Cancer Institute.
Prepare yourself for femboy biden!
Every single president since Eisenhower (every single one, no exceptions) is a war criminal, and none of them stood trial. Don't hold your breath.
Oh shit...
Countdown to Trump saying something deplorable. 10...9...8...
Damn, didn’t even get to finish the countdown.
Somehow I don’t think you are joking. 😢