Dodge Ram in the Netherlands

“This is why we don’t need #US #cars in #Europe”

We don't need this shit in the US, either. I hope that tram just rammed the fucker.

I hope the city seized the truck, auctioned it off, and fined the owner for littering.
- More like melted it down for scrap
I know we're being hyperbolic here but hard disagree -- how awful would that be for everyone on-board? And absolutely not worth the damage to public infrastructure. There's an established procedure for dealing with blockages, and I hope that process irreparably damages the truck and results in a hefty fine for the owner
- Not great for adjacent vehicles either
- Puts down Molotov cocktail... Are you sure?
I hope too. But because the news headline would be "Dodge Rammed"
- Driver comes running over to move the car just in time… “Ram Dodged”

Someone in my city did this. Their car blocked the tram. The tram company ordered taxis for all passengers, and the car owner had to foot the bill.

They could just take the brightline approach for dealing with vehicles on the track.
- @conditionalsoup @shadowtofu
  Would that mean that since the tram has the right of way on the tracks it can simply push the offending driver's property off the tracks and any damage is legally the fault of the idiot driver?
amazing
I get why people are annoyed but I wish my truck had a sunroof.

These cars should be banned in Europe. If your car doesn't fit into a parking spot, it's too big.

They don't even fit in the parking spaces in the United States. I don't know how many times I've had to sit in the parking lot for 10 minutes waiting for some dipshit to figure out how to maneuver his monster vehicle into or out of a space.
- Guess it depends on how you live. I'm over here like "how do you have spots that don't fit trucks? Every other car on the road is that size"
  Context, I live in Texas.
  Also also, I've been to the Netherlands and those spots in towns are tight fits for a normal car. Even a large full size German sedan probably wouldn't fit. But that's fine because almost everyone parks outside of town and uses public transportation or walks or bikes. You basically can't drive around in town. This truck driver is just an idiot.
- Yea, I was going to say this. We have to park in the back of a lot with the tailgate over a curb to the truck fits into a space.
Fuck that. Those cars should be banned here in america.
- How else are they gonna haul their 3 bags of groceries AND own the libs?
- Ban track yem this side of Proxima Centauri
Owners of such cars should be required to take extra training about where they can operate them, restricting them like large commercial vehicles (which these try to be)
Let them have them; don't let them drive them in tight urban areas, don't let them park in parking places that can't fit them
Australia is much like America with places designed for motor vehicles. So American light trucks fit here, but many of our carparks do not allow vehicles longer than 5m to enter
- One of the many points that prevent cybertrucks from European roads is actually the requirement for a commercial truckers licence to operate it.
Yeah this is the thing.
If someone can make a case for actually needing the capabilities of this vehicle... fine. That doesn't mean you can just park wherever you want and complain that the bays are too small though.
They say everything is bigger in Texas. Apparently not the parking spaces. These ugly trucks don't even fit in parking lots.

#1 vehicle for drivers being under the influence of alcohol.

Alcohol would explain why someone would purchase the fuck off monstrosity that is the ram. Renting a truck is a better option 99% of the time.
If I were driving drunk regularly, I'd want to be in a tank like this, too.

This is 100% illegal, even if there was no tram rails. City would ~~toe~~ tow this car if they were quick enough to respond too.

They might even give it the whole foot
- No i meant push it away with their toe obv
I love the thought of this bozo having to pick up his wanktank from the impound yard every week because he was improperly parked.
It's not even the fines or the embarrassment, because I'm sure this is some rich asshole who cares zero about others, but the inconvenience of having his car towed constantly would bring me so much joy...

This looks like a show down.

Tram be like:

"You're big because the single person inside you is insecure.

I'm big because there are 100 people inside me.

We are not the same."

there are 100 people inside me.
😳
- Found Annabel Chong.
I've said both in a single day. The look on the first guy's face when the 99 others walked in was priceless.

Train can't dodge, but it can ram...

The Brightline strategy for clearing the tracks

I don't even drive a big vehicle, but I know that I would be mortified if I drove somewhere only to realize that my vehicle is like 2x the size of every other vehicle around me, and I cannot fit into any parking spot.

How do these people live with themselves? I would get out of the truck, take a look at how far I'm blocking the road, and then just drive away and never come back.

Here's an answer to your question in joke form.
How does a ~~deva~~ diva change a lightbulb?
She holds the bulb and waits for the world to revolve around her.
- Did you mean diva?
  Thank you though, I have a new wiki page to learn about myself. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deva_(Hinduism)
Some people love any kind of attention they can get. You can’t be ignored with such a car. People will talk to you about it. You can’t be ignored feel stronger and bigger inside it than anyone else on the road.
- smul pp?

Me to tram driver:

"SEND IT, BRO!"

Closest I could find was bros yeeting a car out of the way of a tram.

Even setting aside that it's so unnecessarily huge, imagine having the utter contempt for others and self-importance necessary to park up on tram lines like that.

That will be expensive.
And dumb, how can you not see the tracks?

Just like how they can't see kids when they're peeling off their driveway.
- I worked the ER for a smaller hospital in the past and one evening I was called in because a father had ran over his own son with one of those pickups. The kid ran out to greet him but the father couldn't see his own kid because the lifted pickup's hood was too high.
  I sincerely hate those wanktanks with all my heart and soul
- The kind of people who would just drive on when there's no witnesses
They can see the tracks - they just don't know what they are lol
(/j)
- Could be partially true if they are actually from America. Lots of places have old tracks that are not in use but left in places like downtowns (sad and ironic). Definitely not an excuse but possibly some context.
- No joke, I nearly died walking across Waterlooplein a few years ago. I had no idea there were even trolley tracks there. I heard or maybe just felt something, stopped walking and turned my head - to see a trolley whizzing past about an inch away from me.

Gender affirming vehicle.
- Micropenis compensatior
- Gender reaffirming vehlcle.

Time to equip the tram with giant sawblades to clear the way.

Just needs a cowcatcher
AKA a pilot.
- That would still move the offending car around, potentially damaging the normal, innocent car and the bikes parked next to it.

There is something poetic about this image and how the USA "fits" in with the rest of the world.

From dodge ram to didn't dodge and was rammed

Come on down to Ram Ranch for the hottest "deals" around.

American cars are the way they are because if you make them big enough, you can classify them as a truck. Trucks, because of old regulations aimed at farmers, have lower safety standards. The automakers thus don't have to spend as much on development and can make bank off of idiots that feel safer in their death traps just because they can see over the sedans.

Trucks, because of old regulations aimed at farmers, have lower safety standards.
More importantly, they have lower standards for emissions and efficiency.
So the manufacturers would have to spend more on research and development, then build smaller cars which sell for less and fewer people buy – or they can go the other way, build bigger cars that are cheaper to make for more money to more people.
The real issue here is badly written regulations due to lobbying.
In Germany for example, a vehicle classified as "light truck" can't have a back seat.
Which is fine for farmers and craftsmen, but not for the majority of private citizens.
And for commercial trucks above 3.5 tons, you need a different driver's license.
So that's why that truck i watched being tested vs it's race variant was like an oversized Suzuki Alto with zero offroad capabilities xD

And the owner are almost exclusively Douchebags. One of those morons once ran me nearly over when I crossed the street in the middle of the city centre in a small tourist town. He even speed up to me, doing way more than the 30km/h speed limit there.
The other one I know was my neighbour who cheated on his wife, while she was with their baby on mother-child cure (It's like a special Rehabilitation for Mother/Dad's with small children where they can take a bit space from the troubles of daily life, and learn some resilience techniques, cooking healthy food, strengthening their body etc...)
- They're assholes in the US as well.
- A PEDESTRIAN? USING MY STREET?! DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH I PAID FOR THIS TRUCK??!??!
- While I generally agree with you, there are exceptions. The forest service here uses them, as well as the council gardening service. But they don't park anywhere near the city, so that is not an issue.

So what will the authorities in the Netherlands do in this situation? Put a ticket on it and then wait for the owner to move it? Tow it to an impound lot? Flip it and light it on fire?

Whatever size the vehicle, you can't block the tracks...

EDIT: I've been in this situation in streetcars in San Francisco and New Orleans. No emergency vehicles came, no super tow truck...the streetcar just waited and blocked traffic until the driver came back and moved their vehicle. I don't know what would have happened if the driver never came back, but nothing happened in the 20-30 minutes we waited.

In my country they tow tram track blockers immediately. I think it's some sort of 'emergency' towing too (arrives faster and is more expensive). If it takes too long, they temporarily replace the tram line with a bus. I imagine it's the same in many places.
- In Germany they sometime use Taxis as the car driver is liable for the cost.
  https://www.spiegel.de/auto/aktuell/falschparker-muss-ersatzverkehr-fuer-blockierte-strassenbahn-zahlen-a-1211260.html
Tow it and charge the owner for getting it back.
In Helsinki they have a specific emergency vehicle for clearing tram tracks. It's especially busy during winter as snow takes away some space from the parking and cars tend to start taking space away from the trams.
Article is in Finnish but hopefully automatic translation can get enough across.
https://www.is.fi/kotimaa/art-2000005983508.html
In my country your car get towed and you get a ticket. Theoretically you could be charged with disruption of a public service.

Canadian here - they’re useless here too. Saw a guy the other day who couldn’t even put some 2x4s in his box because it was to short due to having full size back seats. He had them poking through the window into the cab 😂

I saw a truck today, and I thought, if it were 1995 and you showed my mechanic old timer uncle that truck, he'd call you a yuppie
Big, beefy, and engineered to be loud this truck was, I don't think you could fit a 2x4 in the bed
the actual bed size is smaller than the old 90s ford rangers', iirc.
I bet it was a half-ton sporty short-box.
With the rear seats dropped my MK5 GTI has almost as much cargo space as some of those bloated cries for help.

I see someone parked their emotional support truck in the normal car parking spot.

We don't need US cars like that one in the US!

And the orange man doesn't understand why Europeans don't want to buy American cars. :\

hey. we zijn allemaal Van Oranje!

V70 looks so tiny next to it.

I've never seen a Ram in real life, but knowing the size of a V70 pretty well that thing is HUGE
To give people perspective, if you put the seats down in the back of the V70, you can sleep two lying down in the back, no problem.
That Ram is obscenely huge.
Yikes I didn’t appreciate how big the Dodge was until you pointed out the Volvo.
- Changed my perspective too. The volvo is already like a damn train
the v70 has the same cargo bed capacity as a standard f150, too

It’s about to be ‘Dodge rammed in the Netherlands’

Rammed into the nearest canal.

Why would you even do that? Give that asshole a fat ticket for doing something like that

Trust me, if I were in charge of tramway clearance management, I would sound an annoying alarm at the vehicle, before having it be towed. Trying to tell the owner that they have until the tow truck arrives to remove the truck.

Too bad the tram havent hit his car

This was taken BEFORE tram went to ramming speed.

I worked at Hornbach in the Netherlands, it's become a big thing among small independant contractors.

We would have about 50 of these trucks pull into the drive-in every single day.

I do think they are pretty cool looking, but the bed is so tall that even a dutch person can only gain access through the rear door. Outrageous with their 5.4l Hemi but i liked the sound and a fairly impractical car overall.

I mean, a contractor that hauls heavy loads, machinery, dirt, etc, those guys actually have a practical reason to buy such a car. There's never a reason to drive such a car tot he super market.
- Those things tend to be full of fancy bells and whistles too, and many don't even get a full legth bed anymore. The market isn't targeting workers with them.
- Get a van, you can actually reach your stuff AND keep them dry in a larger space.
  Pick up trucks are useless.
probably a hefty road tax in NL for such a large vehicle

They haven't been Dodge Rams since 2010. The brand is just Ram now, they spun off from Dodge.

- Dodge! We've got Dodge here!
Isnt it "RAM Trucks"?
- You are correct. I stand corrected.
Downvoted for a factual statement. Never change, ~~reddit~~ Lemmy.
- I didn't downvote you and also wouldn't, but I get where the down vote is coming from, as your comment adds nothing to the discussion. Which was the original reason for having down votes in the first place, wasn't it? It's like... who gives a shit? I also wouldn't know whether the abomination pictured is newer than 2010 but then again, who cares? Whether Stellantis brands this outhouse on wheels RAM or Dodge RAM or Penisenlarger 3000 doesn't really matter.

Bro, read the room.

Ah yeah , it's big body season now in EU

I'm in the US and have a 1970 Fiat 500. That little car can handle quite a few of my needs. I sometimes use it for work, when I only have estimates. Normally I drive a full size Ford E150 van.

I appreciate the Fiat because it's so different from everything on the roads here, just fun to drive, (I'm 54, so at an age where things like lumbar support and other creature comforts are nice) and it's just uncomfortable enough to make me really appreciate our more modern and larger vehicles (the For van, a Mercury Cougar convertible, a Dodge 2500 4x4, and a Volvo XC70).

The only real bad side is that between it's age and the fact that they were never freaky imported into the US, parts aren't readily available. The last time I used it for work, it broke down.