Who the fuck needs an x axis anyway
Who the fuck needs an x axis anyway
Who the fuck needs an x axis anyway
Number of unvaxxed kids also growing in the past 22 years. I think it proves that autism is caused by lack of vaccine.
taps the chart
If they could read or do comparisonal analysis or could formulate higher-functional abstraction in their frontal lobes, this would really make them think.
Now show the testing rate over the same time period!
Anti-vaxxers: No.
Autism diagnosis rates. Quite a difference.
Remember Covid, don't report on things = they stop existing.
Well, get out of here with your logic and reason...
In my country there has been a huge increase in both ADHD and autism diagnoses the last decades. At the same time in those years the methods to discover both diagnoses have improved greatly.
But you know, correlation does not equal causation..
30 years ago my teacher suspected i am on som sort of spectrum and had to get tested. I remember going to some doctor and i had to clap really fast and look into a light. Believe it of not i was not diagnosed with ADHD, because i'm a really good clapper
Damn! You should get vaccinated for whatever and try again. Better luck next time?
Mandating helmets for the boys at the front is resulting in many more head injuries!
Yeah, this is like saying “skin cancer rates have increased dramatically in the past 30 years!” Well yeah, because now we have the technology to detect it earlier. That “things increased” stat ignores the complementary “but deaths decreased dramatically” stat that immediately follows it. Before, we didn’t know people had skin cancer until it was killing them. But now, with preventative screenings, public awareness campaigns, etc, people are more likely to get checked before it is a life threatening issue.
It’s the same thing. Detection models got better, so detection rates went up.
Not autism rates, detection rates is what's up, more kids are growing up with adequate helps and therapies so they can grow to be functional adults.
It is the same story as gay infecting children's minds.
They are selling awareness as something to be afraid of. Which is yet another layer od evil.
Not only that, but they wish really hard for us to be their tiny little scapegoats, when probably most of the autistic community hates them.
you know, everest was still there before it was discovered.
Lies, damn lies, and statistics.
Before you get more downvotes, it's a reference folks: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lies,_damned_lies,_and_statistics
This graph will live forever, in intro classes, as an example of how not to do things.
Im confused, it's got both axis labeled and seems pretty easy to read.
Maybe points off for having the labels on the outside rim of the graphic.
Doesn't change the fact that classification of autism also changed over those years, but the graph itself is okay.
I'm a woman in my 40s who is probably autistic, but back then I was the wrong demographic and "too well behaved" to even consider diagnosis. I'm a typical example people think of when thinking about under diagnosis.
On the other hand, I work with people who have severe learning disabilities who also evaded diagnosis, or were diagnosed well into adulthood as diagnosis is difficult in someone so impaired. In another time, they would have been labelled with a grossly offensive term and just left. Better treatment of disabled people is probably another reason we see rising rates of diagnosis.
They're basically banking on people still thinking, autism is "intellectual disability, but quirkier and more difficult", while I have met "more severe" cases who did not had the ID part, they just were lucky to avoid the diagnosis for long, and thus people didn't pretend they're "too dumb to even learn to count to 10".
spectrum
Our species broadly doesn't think in terms of spectrums or nuance.
I burned years of my life trying to make arguments from reason and explain how there can be simultaneous truths or that issues are not black-and-white. It has NEVER stuck, not with friends, not with family, not with strangers on the internet.
People's minds largely do not work that way. We all HAVE to digest this and mourn it and let it pass through us so we can stop trying to argue with these blockheads in ways they can't even grasp. We can change them if we tell them stories about feelings, if we make them feel validated or heard, we can change them with careful, patient one-on-one care like a parent telling a child bedtime stories... but this takes a level of energy, empathy and patience that few of us have. Some do, I give massive respect to those who have dedicated their lives to this kind of outreach. I wish we had more.
This is precisely what 'leader scientists' did when folks in power plopped them before crowds and radio and TV and such for a long time.
...It kinda worked.
But we're in the algorithmic attention era now. We are past that era.
Assuming the data is true (doubt it because of fucking beef jerky man), it's not so much that autism is on the rise so much that autism rates are being diagnosed more and autism is less stigmatized than it was previously.
If I remember correctly, it fits the same overall curve of the number of reported left handed people over time after society stopped forcibly making people use their right hand. Shockingly, actually making an attempt at diagnosing people and tracking those diagnoses makes numbers go up.
Imagine the sexist fascist racist homophobe convicted Cheeto puff is also ablest, please keep adding adjectives that describe the 47th president of the Confederated States
Will this administration release data on the impact of fossil emissions on diseases like asthma?
Also heath waves death tolls
It’s been a mess out there, for sure.
Oh, they will. But reliable data?
Be careful what you wish for, lol.
In other news, visibility bias has been classified as communist propaganda. Anyone who says this isn't representative of an actual increase in the incidence rate is a communist and can safely be ignored.
Cool but
There is an 𝑥 axis and it's not too hard to comprehend, although I'd prefer the dividing character to be newline rather than "|", or only show the surveillance year.
Also, the "trendline" is sus, an actual trendline cannot always be above data.
That line of best fit doesn't even match the data. How can it start above the data and then finish above the data but still be line of best fit. Not that that's the only problem with this graph of course.
Sorry, it's actually a "best fits our narrative" line. I can see how you might have been confused.
I think it's just a trendline, not a line of best fit.
prevalence of cancer has increased ∞% since 0 BC
Oh god!
Well the cure is clearly to stop testing.
Instances of autism have skyrocketed since the discovery of autism and effective testing for it.
Clearly these tests are causing the autism. It's a conspiracy by Big Autist to make the world a quieter and more curious place. The railway companies are in on it too.
....................... did they adjust the data points to go from lowest to highest
......so the chart go up?
.....
*I wrote down the data on a napkin and it makes more sense. These fuckers made a Bad Graph.
I guess we found the answer to "Is math invented or discovered?"
Bad Graph says: 0.75% of 8 year olds were diagnosed in 2000 versus 3.2% in 2020.
Correlation =/= causation.
How have the diagnostic criteria changed in 20 years? Autism was a stigma when I was in high school in 2000, now it's a spectrum. Are there routine screenings at pediatricians now?
Number go up, but what else go up simultaneously?
I hate it here.
Same guys that tarrifed an island full of penguins?
Massaging your stats to make them say what you want is basic statistics 101.
Each bar shows two years; years they surveyed the kids and the year the kids were born.
So 2000|1992, is saying that kids born in 1992 were surveyed in 2000. If you look at tmit with thtmat perspective you can see it's ordered by the year.
When people say autism they think of the nonverbal kind not the model train kind.
Also remember that we only had diagnostic tools for adult autism beginning in the 1980s.
The rise of autism diagnosis does not necessarily equal a rise in autism.
That's definitely something an autist would say!!! We found them, boys!!!
Military spending also increased from 2000-2022, ergo military spending causes autism.
10 out of a 1000 to 30ish out of a 1000 doesn’t even seem like a massive increase, especially if it’s really due to something like a pain medication that is taken by a huge population. Which it’s not as it’s more related to improvements in diagnosing.
I guess they are just hoping people see bar go up and therefore bad.
It looks nepotism put a failson in charge of this graph.
That's like saying we have more cancer now than in the past.
Sure, that might be true in certain scenarios (we're very good at creating new ways to give ourselves cancer).
The truth is that we're living longer, increasing the risk and likelihood of cancer, and we've gotten a LOT better at finding and diagnosing cancer and specific types.
I think the x axis is "year of measurement | year of birth" since they are 8 years apart. Very unconventional and it would need an explanation but it's not bad to have both pieces of information handy in this context
What's wrong with the x-Axis?
if you look at it for 1s it looks scary (if you're afraid of autism ig). if you look at it for 2s it doesn't make any fucking sense like, at all
Main problem is that its not really an axis at all.
Maybe what's important is the axis we made along the way
I think it’s birth cohorts
I think it's just the number of diagnoses made in that particular year. But it doesn't matter because we know this graph is made up anyway. It's a Trump administration putting it out, I bet not one of them knows how to get excel to output a bar chart, so instead it's just random rectangles they've drawn.
Absolute nonsense graph. Buckle up, this shit is going to get way worse.
The axis makes sense with the label, they just didn't label every data point.
HMMMMM
Most magats are autists but not all autists are magats?
It’s hard to speculate, but the cdc should take a look at this strong correlation!!
r/DataIsBlursed
Can anyone decipher the graph for me?
When they collected the data in 2000, about seven 8 year olds out of 1000 had autism. Those children were born in 1992.
When they collected the data in 2002, about six 8 year olds out of 1000 had autism. Those children were born in 1994. This information was not labelled on the x axis.
When they collected the data in 2004, about eight 8 year olds out of 1000 had autism. Those children were born in 1996.
When they collected the data in 2006, about nine 8 year olds out of 1000 had autism. Those children were born in 1998. This information was not labelled on the x axis.
When they collected the data in 2008, about eleven 8 year olds out of 1000 had autism. Those children were born in 2000.
... I'm too lazy to continue but ...
When they collected the data in 2020, about twenty seven 8 year olds out of 1000 had autism. Those children were born in 2012.
When they collected the data in 2022, about thirty two 8 year olds out of 1000 had autism. Those children were born in 2014. This information was not labelled on the x axis.
I'm not positive i'm reading it right, but that's what I think they were trying to convey with this (terribly labeled) graph.
eta: yeah, rereading the subtitle, those numbers and years make sense
The line went up which usually good. The very best. We have the best lines in this great country. But Bobby said this isn't a good line so I said, I told them, we need to find out why the line is bad. And I've got people on it who say don't take Tylenol. So that's all that needs to be said. Don't. Take. Tylenol.
Guarantee you the people afraid of autism has no idea what it even is, other than "bad"
There's a vast number of conservative parents who have said they would support abortion in cases of fetal abnormalities like "autism" because they're not pro-life or informed about anything, they're just scared. They're scared of hardships, they're scared of emotional labor, they're scared of the social stigmas around having to care for someone with special needs, they're scared they won't love a child who isn't normal, and will be judged for it.
For some reason, that doesn't look like a GPT-generated graph, which means... sadly... that someone had to make that thing.... and somebody had to approve it.
What do you bet it's not even based on real data and it's just some random rectangles that they drew.
They also could have just grabbed any graph off of google images and relabeled it. That was a apparently a popular shortcut in corporations when someone had to present to their bosses.
I believe the data through 2016, but the last 3 bars are faked. The increase per bin is 5 higher than the previous.
It might be because DSM-V was released in 2013.
"8 year olds, dude." - Walter Sobchak
You said it, maing.
Dude...
maybe that's why they were elected lol
/s
OK there are not 2 bars per year. 2nd last is 2020, last 2022.
It's not clear why everyone is mad at the chart. It does show an increase. Though, this is about autism diagnoseses, which can be influenced by kickback bribes for diagnoseses.
There is a sharper (exponential) increase since 2012, even though pharma corruption solutions existed many years before then, afaik. Some explanation for the acceleration is needed. Its not tylenol or any new vaccines.
Er, did you look at all the dates on the x axis? Because that shit makes no sense whatsoever.
It took me a while to understand the graph too. All of the information needed is included in OP image. Posting what may be Trump/RFK propaganda that may or not be based on lies and non data, just to attack it for not being the absolute clearest graph is posting Trump propaganda. Graph would be clearer if they omitted birth years. OK.
Posting this is still equivalent to "sun goes up sun goes down. ain't nobody understand that" manipulation that reinforces people's lack of understanding to trust the speaker on anything and everything.
My diagnosis is in that spike. I got diagnosed late because it took that long to get away from my autism denying parent and enough time living on my own to start wondering about my "weird habits", especially after starting to meet others "like me".
It stopped being a disability in my mind and started being more like a superpower, and eventually out was just who I was and y'all can just deal with it. Of course I leaned boundaries and social graces because we live in a society, but how I view myself and other people definitely changed
So I think it has a lot to do with how this generation and previous ones changed how they handle autism.
Autism diagnosis is can also be increased by just better recognition of the disease. You think anyone was going around giving out autism diagnosis in the 90s come on.
An increase in diagnosis rates does not indicate an underlying increase in the condition.
Er, did you look at all the dates on the x axis? Because that shit makes no sense whatsoever.
Population size has also experienced dramatic growth... ffs.
Not trying to defend this drivel, but the metric is clearly normalized “per 1000 births”
Ah, thanks I missed that.
That actually doesn't matter. The stats are per Capita.
The source is "I made it the fuck up!"
Also ignoring improvements in diagnostics.
I mean, it says the source right there, it's the CDC...
The organization run by a brain worm driving a human suit?
Yeah, after deleting any data the CDC used to have that they didn't agree with. And making up any new data they need to make their preconceived notion as perceivably supported as possible.
Yes, which happened to be the body that made it the fuck up.