What's your "old person" trait?

I think that a basic lifestyle should be affordable for a basic person

Found the left-wing extremist! /s
i’m gonna go one further:
i think everybody should be allowed to live a decent enough life, whether they can work or not.
- I'll go even further and say that meeting the needs of a population is the only point of having a society at all.
- I don't think that is an old person trait. You are just secretly Nordic.
- One further, and one better
Crazy how that is an unpopular opinion these days
As a very basic person, I agree
All this automation should mean that there's less work to do for everyone's needs to be met. Not sure where all this scarcity came from.

My OPT is that you should be able to buy and own your software instead of perpetually renting it.

My old person trait is that I think we need less acronyms
That said I do agree with you
- My old person trait is to inform people that they meant to say "fewer."
- Haha. I typed it that way out of laziness, sorry 😺
Come to open source... you don't have to rent or buy software. Find yourself a good alternative.
- Thanks!
  I've been a happy Linux user since 99 and Mandrake was my first distro 👌
  Still, the only piece of (subscription-based) software that's keeping me from deleting the windows partition: Premiere pro 🤡
- Thanks for that link. Honestly. I think an old thing is that I’ve gotten used to convenience and a going through a list like that sometimes doesn’t seem worth the time even though I know deep down that it is.
You can. I think it's called "pirate bay", but don't quote me on that. ;)
- When I was younger I would be there with you. Now as I’m older I just want it to work and the Pirate Bay is hit or miss sometimes.
And this is why I buy still buy copies of 2015 Office from eBay
- I'm so goddamned sick of Microsoft and its greedy bullshit. I just looked at a recent KB update from them and the article must have breathlessly mentioned the word "subscription" 50 times.
  After years of being a MS corporate stooge type, I finally started messing around with LibreOffice. It can read MS Office files. Check it out if you haven't already.
I don't think you can "own it" in the traditional sense, but I'd be ok with a software purchase being a perpetual license for the specific version you purchased.

My old person trait is that none of the things mentioned in the linked image happened on accident.

They happened because capitalism doesn't give a fuck about anything except bleeding as much money as conceivably possible out of each and every human.

Apps allow companies to suck more data out of your device than a website, allowing them to sell more of your data and... make more money.
Video games needing access to the internet is simply Digital Rights Management and a way to prevent piracy and... make more money. Remember, most companies view something pirated as a "lost sale," not that you would have never purchased it to begin with. As Gabe Newell once said:

“We think there is a fundamental misconception about piracy. Piracy is almost always a service problem and not a pricing problem,” he said. “If a pirate offers a product anywhere in the world, 24 x 7, purchasable from the convenience of your personal computer, and the legal provider says the product is region-locked, will come to your country 3 months after the US release, and can only be purchased at a brick and mortar store, then the pirate’s service is more valuable."

This one speaks for itself. Being able to be in control of the products you buy is freedom. Having products controlled remotely by a corporation is giving them carte blanche to make more money off of you.
Removing accessible customer service means more people will just give up on trying to get their problem solved, effectively allowing the company to steal from people and... shocker... make more money.

I agree, in theory, in respect to ghosting, but we live in a society that teaches us to be isolated, and doesn't teach interpersonal skills unless the interpersonal skill is "Fuck you, got mine." (which is, not surprisingly, a thing about making more money.)

In other words, these aren't old people opinions. These are "I'm not gonna let capitalism absolutely fuck me endlessly" opinions.

At least in Europe I suspect those of us who grew up before neoliberalism took over in the 80s have a different take on the normality of the whole "being treated as a mark to scam money of 24/7" thing...
In terms of piracy, I wonder how much could be prevented by having demos, like Factorio does
- Demos used to be everywhere back in the day! I think they have a huge impact, because it's a way to try to play a game without dumping all the money on it without knowing what the gameplay is like and if its actually fun.
  When I was a kid, DOOM having the first episode of the game available as shareware was huge and I used to walk to my friends place after school and watch him play until he would get bored and let me play for a while.
  From an old interview in 1999 with John Carmack about this very subject (emphasis mine):
  Carmack: DOOM 2 was explicitly a commercial release. We sort of half heartedly did some shareware distribution with Quake, but I think the industry has almost unanimously decided that the three or so level demo is the best test vehicle.
  A lot of people consider themselves to have "finished DOOM" when they just finished the shareware episode.
- Funny how Steam has been making sales and events around demos for a while (called Next Fests) and some games absolutely blow up out of nowhere thanks to them.
  Also some people think FF16 having a demo was some weird, oddball marketing move by Square Enix, except they have been making "try now, continue later" demos for games since Bravely Default.
Where do I sign up to buy the awards around here?
Kidding…great post, tho
- That's what the emojis are for. Unlike the shitshow most of us just came from, here it doesn't cost real money to add a tiny picture of 🏅 to a comment.
It's specifically capitalism driven by GDP. Capitalism is bad but adding GDP is like removing any ethic and moral compass.
Well said, I'm going to save this for when my friends inevitably say something about it and I have to explain why the economy, expessially in the US sucks and why I might eventually leave

I think cars should not be dependent on a touch screen for ANY of it's functions (or really have one at all). They are more difficult to use than tactile buttons, distracting, and do not receive long term support from the OEM.

What do you do with a 10 year old car that runs but the touch screen nuked due to age, firmware bugs or mechanical damage? Ford isn't going to be selling replacement units 10 years later and I have yet to see an 'infotainment' system that has aftermarket replacement considerations.

Totally agree with this one.
I drive an old 06 and I much prefer using the the physical buttons to adjust things like music, volume, air settings. Even prefer using it to back up and having to use my mirrors and look back.
My '18 vehicle is all touch screen, cameras,etc. While the a/c functions better and I don't feel like my fillings are going to fall out from all the rattles and bumps, I find there is a real disconnect. I am even asked by others why I lean over and look at the back window when reversing.
I work in tech and I don't trust tech.
- “If you think technology will solve your problems, you don't understand technology—and you don't understand your problems.” - Bruce Schneier
I spent a decade as am automotive locksmith, and watching things regularly fail on cars that passed through my shop has made me terrified with the touch screen. I cannot imagine replacing one of those and how easily first parties can lock replacement behind getting it done at one of their shops.
- "Wait, who are you? How did you get in my car?"
  "I'm a locksmith, and I'm a locksmith."
- Yes! I love my car's touchscreen for navigation and CarPlay, but having physical buttons for volume, A/C, etc was a must.
Yep. 100% agree. My new-ish Toyota RAV4 strikes an acceptable balance with touch screen vs real buttons/knobs. I don't think anything critical is on the touch screen except maybe the equalizer. The touch screen isn't massive either, but big enough to have a useful backup camera display.

My old person trait is that when I purchase a printer, I should be able to use whatever is the cheapest compatible ink without the printer treating me like I'm smuggling unicorn blood out of Narnia

I bought a brother laser printer when my company sent us to WFH in March 2020 and I haven't looked back. Just replaced the ink (er, toner) in March 2023
- I've heard excellent things about Brother being the least extortionate printer in the market. How well does it work on Linux by the way?
You get what you pay for. If you buy a loss-leader they will of course try to get more out of you
- I don't know why they are booing you, you're right! If you don't want a printer that's a loss leader with expensive ink then buy a tank printer or a laser printer.
  Cartridge based inkjet printers are almost always a loss leader and you also buy the part that does the printing every time you buy a cartridge. The print heads are actually on the cartridge, not in the printer at all.
  Tank based inkjet printers are very different - the printer costs more but the ink is cheap. They also have no way of knowing what brand ink you use since it's just ink - not a whole set of print heads and a microchip. This is all because the print heads are part of the printer - not included with the ink in a cartridge.
  Laser printers are also great but they get even more complex. They have drum units which can be part of the toner cartridge or a separate unit that needs replacing periodically depending on the design of the printer.
I’ve bought 2 separate cannon i80s (because I have a ton of leftover ink I got for very cheap) and its the best printer I’ve ever used
I'm glad Brother laser printers seem to work well with third party toner and any error message is easy to override
It is often reasonable to handwrite everything to avoid printers
- I once heard that the Russian security bureau was so paranoid about bugged computers, that they still fill forms with mechanical typewriters just in case.

my old person trait is thinking that all of the above are extremely reasonable expectations and it's a sad world we live in where most of those aren't the case anymore

My old person trait is that instructions do not need to be videos.

I prefer written guides to video guides.

Video has some clear advantages when showing off a 3D space and otherwise, but I dislike pausing them over and over. Especially if my hands are covered in oil and grease, a paper version is superior to a screen.

My old person trait is that I think I should be able to have anything I purchased repaired/serviced by whomever I wish, with whatever parts they deem acceptable.

Right to repair is a human right.

I refuse to use subscription software. If I can't buy it outright, I either use an alternative or take to seas.

As someone who works in a call center, screw that last person on here. So sorry you hate the automated system. Sorry you had to wait on hold. They can't keep enough of us employed because y'all are fucking mean and no one wants to be abused for $15/hr.

Er, I mean, Thank you for calling, sorry about your wait!

Don't you think you could both be victims? Waiting for ages listening to a 13 second loop of music interspersed with "your call is important to us" might make people a bit more angry?
You should be mad at the people who gain financially from it, and could make it better for you and the customers, but might have to skip that third yacht for little Timmy.
- I have very little faith that a lot of these people would be any more pleasant. My time spent over the last year in the chat department at my company is a major reason why. Chat, unlike phone, has little to no wait time usually. But maybe something about written word makes people even more vitriolic.
  Of course I am upset at our staffing policies as well, and the company who is at the whim of the shitty investors.
- Right? I see a very easy solution to this, which is, instead of telling the person to sit there and wait under the threat of losing their place in queue if they're not available when the magically shitty music stops playing, to just have the costumers state their name and problem and to then let them go on their way and have the call center itself call back the costumers once their queue position comes up.
  But of course. Capitalism.
- I understand that people get angry when they have to wait in line for ages and usually due to something having gone wrong in the first place, but dumping that anger onto a hapless call center employee who's in many ways — like you said – also a victim of the same company is Not Cool™.
I had two friends quit call centers within a month of joining because it immediately sent them into a depression.
I'm sorry for everything you have to deal with at work.
Worked in a call center for a long time and I somewhat agree with the last person.
It's often easier to deal with something with a real person. That is not the issue.
The issue is people being polite and respectful. If everyone was a decent human being, call centers would be a good place to work and they wouldn't be understaffed.
- If everyone was a decent human being, call centers would be a good place to work and they wouldn't be understaffed.
  That wouldn't really be true, since working conditions are determined entirely by the employer.
  In other words, no matter how nice a job may be, there's a boss entirely willing to underpay and overwork their staff to maximize profit.
- So what you are saying is that you should be allowed to categorise them into nice and "wait until smb. Will find the energy tot talk to them"?
I wish call center software had better features on dealing with overburdened staff. Callbacks are a great thing to avoid having to be on the phone constantly. A dash of statistics might be nice to recommend an alternative time to call to get a better wait time.

I hate waiting 30+ minutes to talk to someone but I also never take it out on the rep. But really, something needs to be done it's ridiculous.
I'm always nice to the call center people, they've been good to me. Sometimes the automated system is so frustrating that I worry my frustrated tone of voice carries over to the beginning of the call with the actual person so I feel like I have to be like "holy hell the phone bot is annoying, if I sound frustrated I'm just recovering, it's not you." I totally get that it's a hard job, though. I always feel bad when the person is super apologetic for taking some time and I'm like "no, no, it's cool. Take all the time in the world, if you can fix my issue I'll be so happy." Just makes me think they get pressured a lot by bosses / customers :|.

In regards to OP's comment about ghosting, I just want to ask, are you a man? Because women all-too-often have to deal with men who can't take no for an answer, and some of those men go from mad to violent very quickly. You might say "well, no man should act that way, they should be able to hear 'I don't want to see you anymore' and just accept it and move on" but the fact is they are not all able to do that. So should women do the respectful thing and stop ghosting, even though some of them definitely WILL end up being yelled at/attacked/killed?

(I know my example doesn't cover all situations involving ghosting, like for instance if the ghoster is a man. If you want to modify your claim to be 'ghosting is unacceptable, except in cases where having a face-to-face conversation could put someone in danger' then I guess I'd agree with that statement. It's just that it's really hard to know which person will be dangerous when they are turned down.)

For the love of god stop with the QR code menus. I don’t want to have to scroll up and down a million times to figure out my order.

I'm actually OK with QR code menus, but only when done well. It's nice to be able to place an order and pay anytime without having to wait for a waiter to come by or have them constantly bother you.
However, I've run into a lot of really poorly done QR code menus that just don't work 50% of the time.
- Experientially, sending the whole party to their phones is a buzz kill and I’d reckon likely causes delays in ordering and consensus as people get distracted. Conversely, some places let you pay the check on mobile which is choice as fuck.
QR menus are the first thing that popped into my mind too. SO irritating.
There's two places (one restaurant and one brewery) near me that was only QR menus for a long time and recently they've switched back to physical ones and it's so much better
Plus, my shit phone takes multiple attempts for the reader to actually work, then I have to download the PDF for the menu (one of the reasons my phone is shitty is because everything fights for device storage space).
Just give me the plastic coated pages of a menu to page through. I promise I won't wipe my boogies on the pages or lick my fingers while browsing.

my old person trait is that you should keep your internet identity completely separate from your real one

An urge to destroy fascism.

Just don't follow the US lead and hire all the ex-fascists for your space program. Destroy it all the way this time.

My old person trait is I shouldn't have to scan a QR code for the menu at a sit-down where I'm dropping $100 on entrées. Give me a dang physical copy of the menu!

I think I should be allowed to order food from a restaurant without needing to scan a QR code which requires me to have a smart phone and an active, paid plan in order to access their menu.

Yes! My OPT is that people shouldn't have their phones out when you're out for a meal. The whole QR code menu thing forces you to start your outing staring at your phone!
- Wait, you mean you're sat down AT the restaurant and you need to get out your phone to view the menus???
I think the move to delivery apps is also a bad move.
- I agree. I never understood why having a stranger deliver your food was considered safer than just picking it up yourself during the beginning of covid. That's another person handling your food.
  Not to mention restaurants and drivers get ripped off.
I'm on the fence about this. On one hand I don't get handed a wet plastic menu someone has just wiped off, or maybe has dried sauce on it. Also it is easier for them to add updates to their menu digitally instead of using a sharpie to cross through items and prices that no longer apply. But I also agree having to look at the whole menu on my small phone screen isn't the best experience.

My old person trait is dislike of video-form social media. I consider blaring my phone speakers at max volume disrespectful to those in my surroundings and generally annoying.

Hence why my social media of choice was reddit and is now lemmy+kbin. It's mostly text posts and images.

My old person trait is I hate short-form videos e.g. Instagram reels and TikTok videos. The back and forth boomer vs millenial vs gen z videos remind me of someone who is talking to themself with different personalities.

My old person trait is only tipping if someone is actually providing a service for me. I don’t tip at all if I’m lifting a finger for anything.

You sound like you would love the ultimate full service restaurant that VLDL demonstrated: https://youtu.be/MTFQdTtxaqw

Owning physical media > "owning" digital media.

These aren't "old person traits". It's common sense.

I like having a keyboard and mouse. Doing things on a smartphone is a last resort.

I want a proper headphone jack on my phone! Bluetooth can be convenient, but I prefer wired headphones.

*buys wireless device *looks inside wires
- It said wire less, not wire free
Check out the Sony phones. Still have headphone jacks
- oooh nice tip, thanks
An optional second usb c port would be better

My old person traits are most of all posted here because I am an old person.

But I'll add that my old person traits is that I think a living wage should support... er... living, including a place to live, food to eat, paying for services, buying clothes, getting decent public health and education, and even have spare money for your free time (hobbies, eat out, theatre, concerts, etc.).

I prefer landscape videos over vertical videos. I still remember when vertical videos were clowned on so hard that there were songs written about it. Now it's how everyone consumes their content!

My old person trait is thinking a family should be able to live in a house if one member has a stable job (maybe two people if both are at minimum wage).

My actual old people trait is that there should be two spaces after a period. I will die on this stupid fucking hill. Even though computers automatically change it to one space. Like here.

I'd downvote but I've come to the understanding that I shouldn't downvote if I disagree, so... Take my upvote, truly an old people trait
It was necessary with typewriters.
Then the earliest word processing programs didn’t do layout well, so the habit made the leap to computers.
Then years later it’s seen as an old person’s habit by people who’ve only ever known systems with smart text layout.
- One of the best conversations I ever had was when I had taken psilocybin mushrooms and was wandering around downtown and found my way to the local typewriter museum.
  I was stoned out of my gourd, but wildly, I don't think that was evident to the historian, because he eagerly answered all my questions and showed me all manner of typewriters and early word processors.
  It was wonderful. We truly do stand on the shoulders of giants, all of humanity stands on the knowledge of those who came before. The history of technology is amazing.
- Well before typewriters the space left after a period could be huge like 5-20 spaces (hand written or in printed books) even though we don't have typewriters dictating it it does help readibilty.
I succumbed to the single-space-after-periods madness a few years ago. I'm used to it now, but the transition was hard.
This is the only true OPT in the thread. The rest are middle aged traits at best.
Two spaces after a period is my eccentricity as a writer.
It's not even legitimately gained by being that old...I had a crush on this science teacher and HE was old enough to use two spaces. So I did. And 20 years later I still haven't shaken it.
The only good thing is that nothing else legitimately uses a double space, so find and replace is quite easy.
- I had a crush on this science teacher and HE was old enough to use two spaces. So I did. And 20 years later I still haven’t shaken it.
  I don't know why but this is so adorable. Thanks for the cute story.
I cannot stop myself from adding two spaces!
- It just looks nicer and less crammed together!
  Two spaces after the period vs. one space after the period is English major equivalent of "tabs vs. spaces" for computer science majors.
It has the advantage of distinguishing abbreviations (e.g. "e.g.", "i.e.") from sentence stops, so that's why the GNU coding standards recommend using two spaces in code comments, to allow emacs to be able to properly detect sentences and correctly use commands like (backward-sentence, forward-sentence and kill-sentence)
Computers automatically change it?? I see two spaces here In what you wrote. Typically phone and things like word have settings to show double space after period as single or not and some android keyboard apps auto correct spaces. But I hate single space it makes it hard to read. Punctuation and Capitalization it helps the reader.
- Try highlighting what I wrote. Even when I edit it, it will show the two spaces I added, but when it posts to the website, the formatting is changed to a single space. When I go to highlight and copy any of the text I posted, only single space.

My old person trait is that I want video to be horizontal.

my old person trait is remembering that it didn't use to be this hot in the summer where I live.

My old person trait is that I'm unreasonably annoyed by people who don't write in full, correct, complete sentences, punctuation and grammar included.

Something interesting I've found is that people use 'lol' to show disinterest or mock the person they're replying to, not to show amusement. And that's not the kind of person I really want to engage with.

My old person trait is thinking that the internet shouldn't just be a place to sell products.

The idea of "keep it simple, stupid" is lost. Everything, from beauracracy to apps to games to social interactions, is mired in unnecessary complexity that makes it difficult for everyone to keep up. I want a simple website with information that I need (thank you Wikipedia for upholding this). I want an airline loyalty membership without insane fine-print rules. I want to tip services based on service provided and not mess around a tablet's interface. I want dental insurance where I'm not leaving the office with a bill that's almost half my rent becuase they did something my insurance said in fine-print wouldn't cover. Maybe these aren't "old person" traits and I'm just here venting. But damn if I don't miss when certain things were simpler.

I have a few. And I'm not even that old (mid thirties)

People who talk on phone calls using airpods or similar look ridiculous in public, like they're utter lunatics talking to themselves or their imaginary friend.
people who view life through their mobile phones are unfortunate and sad. Like...why pay money to go see a gig if you're going to view it through your phone screen? I went to a wedding last week and I was one of the very few who was actually watching the procession with my own eyes rather through a camera app.
Not being on social media should be an accepted norm, not a fucking exception. This is an issue when dating, unbelievably.

These are not old person traits, these are just things that most people agree upon.

Dumb TVs, its either 1.5k plus or you will literally never find one. I don't wanna be profiled or have some stupid android is on it. All it needs to do is display images on screen.

If you never connect it to the internet.... It stays dumb.
- Not necessarily, I've seen "smart" tvs that require internet to have any level of functionality :(
- A lot of them require internet for setup 🙃
Nah, screw the smart or dumb labelling.
I just want TV's to be able to change channel within half a second. More and your product is trash
Buy large Computer screens
Yeah the smart ones are cheaper due to being subsidised by the sale of the data they can suck from them.
You can get a 50" Hisense dumb TV for about $300 on Amazon. The picture isn't as good as some of the other brands, but it's still serviceable.

When I buy an aplliance or something simple like a speaker I don't want to have to connect it to the web to work properly. I want to just plug it in and use the function I bought it for.

My old person trait is that most of these sound like very recent problems

I DO NOT owe you a text back. If I'm not physically w you, I owe you very little in terms of interaction. I come home, throw my phone under the bed, and ignore till morning, and I prob won't answer you then either. It's not personal...usually.

For me, I miss the days when you could browse a website without popups for cookie consent, creating/signing up for an account, paying them money, and disabling your ad blocker.

I disagree that you owe a face to face conversation. No one should forced to go meet someone if they don't feel like it.

In the context of dating, if you get ghosted, consider that the person is not interested in you after all - and just move on. No big deal.

Likely an outdated one, or one that's already been given a number of times, but – Physical Books.

I'm not entirely 'anti' e-reader, the benefits are obvious. I'm just VERY pro physical book.

The third one is my old person trait. Also, grumpiness, and wanting the right to repair my own devices.

My old person trait is when someone tells me what they mean, they better damn well be telling me what they mean, because I'm not gonna play mind games with them. If you tell me you're not upset then I'll believe you're not upset, I'm honouring you and your words and trusting that you're being upfront and honest with what you want me to know. And if you secretly are upset, it's not my responsibility to know that, you did not tell me.

I have adapted this policy. With a bunch of trying to understand why this person is acting a certain way.
- Personally I'm not great at reading people and I've found they get even more frustrated when you get it wrong than when you just don't do it. After a certain point I found myself miserable and I kinda stopped and went "wait, why is it MY job to know what THEY want from me?" And I eventually just kinda. Stopped. Most people hardly noticed because I got it wrong or overlooked it so much anyway but it was tons less stress on me, and now they knew how to effectively interact with me

In my 40’s I feel like everything about me is an old person trait.

As a trauma survivor, all of the people I’ve ghosted in my life were toxic and bad for my mental, physical and emotional health and I have no regrets. It’s kind of like the Billy Crystal speech in When Harry Met Sally, except the opposite. When you realize you don’t ever want to see a person again for the rest of your life…you want the rest of your life to start immediately

Mine is that I miss the days when physical media (DVDs, VHS, etc) was the main way to own media

My old person trait is when someone offers me coffee, I look at my watch.

I don't want an iPad glued to my car's dashboard. Touch screens are fine but the current screen sizes and placement are ridiculous. It's a car, the screen shouldn't be distracting you.

I like to stay home. Leave me alone.

10pm being late. When I was young I would stay up until 2-3 am doing stuff.

Most of these "old person traits" are stuff most people agree with, just like r/unpopularopinion. We've been cursed with reddit.

We don’t use the R word here.
- Don't tell me how to live my life retard.
Ah hah, I see what you did. You changed it from "old people opinion" to "old people traits" because a trait would mean it's exclusive to old people, whereas the original posts terminology calling it an "opinion" didn't actually mean it was exclusive to old people. So the fact that all people share these opinions doesn't matter because technically a universal opinion is also an old people opinion. But it was certainly IMPLIED that these opinions would be exclusive to old people, otherwise they would just be called "opinions" and leave out the "old people" phrase altogether. Which is why you changed it to "traits", to call out the implication as being misleading. And that's why... Wait, I forget where I was supposed to end this comment.
I'm sorry about this, everyone.
- The post said traits though?
- why would a trait be more exclusive than an opinion?

Yeah that line was used by my abusers way to often. They just "can't understand" why I'd go no contact. As if the last 300 explanations were somehow non existent. Nope. I don't owe you anything.

And my old person trait is my walking stick I suppose.

I kinda agree with you op on ghosting being unacceptable, but NOBODY is entitled to see my face NO ONE. It is not ghosting to straight up tell someone "I am no longer interested in continuing to stay in contact with you."

Likewise, my old person trait is the belief that your identity and all details pertaining to it are PERSONAL including voice, likeness, biometric statistics, location, interests - basically, the default human presence online is TEXT ONLY AND NO DESCRIPTION OF ANYTHING CONCRETE until and unless they choose to intentionally disclose more, and nobody, not one mother FUCKING person OR THING has the right to demand of you any more than that. Lastly, that you should guard your information greedily and viciously.

My old person trait is that I don't like short form video, I learn and internalize less and find that my day is chipped away at by tiktok or youtube shorts when I allow myself to watch them.

My old person trait is I think cashless-only businesses should be illegal.

I dislike and distrust short form video based social media. But that seems to be the common response.

IDK if I even consider that an "old person" trait though because there are lots of Zoomers that seem to hate it to. Though I wonder if that's because generational cultures are melding together more because of the internet.

Can't tell if this is face value mockery of younger generations willingly submitting to being fucked over by corporations for profit (maybe because of dependance on the convenience of modern technology), or if this is actually younger people making light of the abysmal state of consumer protection (probably caused by the older generation).

Maybe it's Poe's law, maybe it's a bit of both, or maybe this is just my own old person trait.

People love licking boots? I don't know, couldn't tell ya.

My old person trait is that I think it’s insulting for there to be an option to tip when going through a drive through.

Never ever let them ask you for a tip before you get your food. If you give no tip they will park you for 45 minutes. Tell them you'll tip cash once you get your food and see how fast they go. Then don't tip them because it's a fucking fast food restaurant and they should be fast regardless.
- because it’s a fucking fast food restaurant and they should be fast regardless.
  You know, I hate tipping culture as much as the next person, but what even the fuck is this opinion?
  Yeah, they should be fast, working with a skeleton crew, or all alone in the middle of the night by themselves, because management refuses to hire enough people to actually make "fast" food. They're paid minimum wage, which last I checked isn't a livable wage in pretty much most of the US.
  I'm not saying they should be tipped, but I am saying you shouldn't mistreat them because they didn't make your cheap, shitty food fast enough because you're a fat lazy fuck.
As someone from Europe, the fact that there is a tipping screen is annoying enough.

My old person trait is that I want to not be milked for data

What would you like to be milked for?

My old person trait is that I don't trust paying with your phone. My whole family does it and it has never gone wrong, but I feel uneasy

My old person trait is that I think kids today are underinformed and overopinionated, especially when it causes them to hold opinions with which I disagree. All other times the kids are alright.

My old person trait is that a digital file I paid for should be DRM free.

bandcamp Fridays babay.
DRM-free FLACs where the artist gets the full cut.
We'll see how long that lasts with Epic Games owning bandcamp.
- Music isn't the problem. I want to buy Movies and put it on my NAS, so I can watch it on any device with the player of my choice.

I don't understand TikTok... at all. Like, what's even the point as a user?

Just installed a messenger. It uses more RAM than my first PC had for displaying a simple, empty list. I find that inexcusable.

My old person trait is that I think that the company I buy a product from should be the seller and the shipper of the product.

Driving slow, leaving early and arriving early. I usually drive a bit below the speed limit, and always follow speed limit signs. It keeps people safe, even if their own impatience makes them tailgate eachother 10 cars in a row behind me. Some people like to be in a hurry when they drive and don't know how to relax and drive calmly, I've never been sure why.

I'm with you minus the driving below the speed limit thing.
Why would you do that?
- Literally zero down side and it's safer.
Don't have the leaving early part down yet but I'm making a conscious effort to be more accomodating on the road? For a long time I've been annoyed with some road behavior. People squeezing in before me with what feels like half a meter to spare. People not letting me join the passing lane. Until I realized that I contributed to these myself. Because I didn't want anyone to squeeze in in front of me I kept a short distance to the next car which means that other cars were either not being let in (which I hate when it happens to me) or force it by squeezing into way to narrow gaps.
So I decided to deliberately let anyone join the passing lane that wants in. I'm not gonna drive slower as default but if I see you stuck behind a truck I'll fall back enough to make it clear that you can hop over. This solves both problems for me.
Driving slow is fine, as long as you aren't in the left lane on the highway. That should be kept clear as a passing lane. I have definitely become a slower and safer driver as I've gotten older. I've also learned that budgeting an extra 15 minutes or so to get someplace gets me there with time to spare so I'm not as stressed while driving.
Yeah having to rush to get somewhere with any little problem or delay making you late, and additionally being mad at other people for NOT being in a rush is no way to live. Leave a little early and relax, everyone is just trying to get where they're going safely.
Slower speeds are safer. There would be a lot less fatalities if everyone just went the speed limit.
I know it's dangerous, and I know it's stupid, but it's just a lot of fun and I love doing it. I try to not overdo it and don't do things that are actively putting others in danger (only cutting corners when I can clearly see that there is no other car coming my way etc. any doubt and I just slow down for the corner). I only let loose on the Autobahn when there's no speed limit. Luckily I have that available 😅
I tried to get my fix in assetto with a wheel and VR, but nothing beats actually doing it. I'd love to have a car to take on the track, but it's so expensive.

My OPT is that if it's loud and expensive, I probably don't want to go there. And I haven't since I was 20.

Loud and/or expensive.

If you put something in my mailbox, where it is explicitly labelled that your unregistered shit is unwelcome. I will come out and find your parked car.

Did you think your stupid shit was that important? If I am selling my house I will never use Ben Gow. Or any of the others that are too stupid to read. Those people who cannot read basic requests - "NO JUNKMAIL" meaning your advertising shit, are not going to get used.

You will never get commission (or a purchase) you dumbshit losers, too dumb to read a mailbox sign, your definately too stupid to be given the risk of selling my asset.

My phone opens links in a browser and they don't work in the browser ¯⁠\⁠_⁠ʘ⁠‿⁠ʘ⁠_⁠/⁠¯

is that the new shrug face? dear god....
- I'm old so I doubt very much that it's new lol
- ¯⁠\⁠_(T_T)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

For me it’s making noises when I stand up or sit down, my knees hurt and get stiff pretty quickly. Also, going to bed by 9:30-10:30 and waking up around 4:30-5:00 am. I really enjoy being up and productive before most everyone else. Grocery shopping on a Sunday at 5 in the morning with headphones on and no one in your way is glorious.

I think everybody here has an old person trait. Joining the fediverse

My old person trait is nothing on the internet should expect a fee for use, streaming services excluded.

I remember the days when you paid for having the internet and that's it. No content hidden behind some patron paywall or membership fee. Content was willfully shared and distrubuted because that's what the internet is for that and infornation.

My boomer trait: I don't use big social media apps like most people my age (19). You could argue that it's pretty common but it always comes up in conversation. I'd rather not be concerned about someone else’s life, but engage with people who talk about their experiences and knowledge.

All you old people sound pretty cool honestly.

My OPT is that not everything makes me cringe. If you cringe too much your face might really get stuck like that.

My old person trait is thinking that you should be able to read posts on Twitter without an account.

This is less a "old person trait" as much as it is a "7 days ago when they made it that way trait"

My old person trait is if you have something to ask me that is going to require a detailed answer call me or email me, don't text me. I'm not going to spend time typing out a long involved answer on that freakin' tiny ass keyboard.

My old person trait is that I listen to old radio shows and watch a ton of classic movies and shows.

I'm 28 and don't even know when I discovered this exactly but on archive.org there's a group of people called the Old Time Radio Researchers Group who catalogue and archive all of the old radio shows. Some of the episodes sound like they could have been recorded yesterday just because they're in such high quality.

My old person trait is beginning any request with “May I…?” instead of “Can I…?”

online shopping, mainly Amazon. i would rather try 100 different stores looking for what i need than to shop on Amazon.

My old person trait is that no one is allowed to be mad at me for not answering a random phone call. Sometimes it's ok to leave your phone in the other room while watching a movie, or (gasp!) At home while you're out gardening.

I only answer random phone calls when I’m looking for a job.

It's that everything annoys me?

Mine is that hook up culture is a lazy alternative to finding someone to build a meaningful relationship with

I prefer to talk to individuals on phones rather than texting a long conversation. If it's a quick question (yes/no) or short answer texting is ok. But I find it taking longer and more tedious to text out an ongoing conversation over 20 minutes versus just calling and getting straight to the point and getting the information you need in 5 minutes.

Gas was less than a dollar per gallon when I started driving.

I remember my bestie in 1995 complaining up a storm at the ridiculousness of paying 45 cents a litre in Ontario, Canada...

My old person trait is that I don't think websites should require JavaScript to render, only use JS for interactive elements that are absolutely necessary for the function of your website. I generally accept that I may have to use JS to post and comment, but to read something should never require me to enable it.

That all current, popular, music really sucks.

My age.

Mine is I get unreasonably annoyed whenever teenagers are loud in public places.

Mine is very similar. Loudness annoys me but the rest of the inconsiderate behavior that seems to be more common to teenagers drives me bonkers. My teenage neighbors moved last week. First, they did not first empty the elevator of the 50 apartment building but tried to take stuff directly to the car after cigarette break. While three people were waiting to use elevator. Then they left some furniture in entrance hall that would be whatever but by doing it they blocked two doors to building common storages that are commonly used until late next day. Another thing is littering when the trash baskets are right there. And yes, I said something and felt like old man screaming for them to get out of my lawn. I guess I have reachem my rackety old man stage while being thirty something woman.

My old person trait is that if you're going to do a ticket, don't code the bare minimum saying that you'll "get back to it later". You never have time later, and now there's shitty code in our app that needs to be fixed or worked around.

Where should I start? I like to own my music, stream it from my server @home, I like to use a calculator, just because I like them. And I like to do things in a terminal, even when it takes 5x the time and a hand full of code. I like to connect things with cables instead of wireless, still faster and more secure, got a full cupboard of cables and adapters, I even collect movies and ebooks on my drives with the thought of "the day the internet brakes down I'll be the king here". Maybe it's because I AM old?! That kind of old, there was a time I spent money for a ringtone.

Breaking wind when I cough

I'm so guilty of ghosting, but I feel like it really is difficult to stay in touch with people, the more time passes. However, I do eventually answer after 2 months to 2 years from when the last message was sent, though

Usually after 2 months I feel so bad that I don’t have the gut to reply… I hate when people ghosts me and when I do it I feel like shit! But I’m extremely introverted so sometimes I can’t function with people…

My old person trait is that I write primarily in cursive and prefer it.

I don't use my phone to pay at the POS and I refuse to do so. I will always carry around my card and use that.

I guess I'm older than I thought.

Everybody should be in bed by 11pm, midnight on the weekends. Nothing good happens after that. Get your beauty sleep.

This. Can’t stand people making noise late at night.
My work shift doesn't even end by that time!
- It does now! Get your beauty sleep! 😂
I go to sleep after midnight and still sleep 8-9 hours. Doesn’t matter when you go to sleep if you sleep enough.
- Get in bed by 11. I don't care what you do once you're in there. 👵
Weirdly, late at night is when I'm most productive.
- Get blackout curtains. 👵
I'm up after that because it's the only time other people finally shut up and stop making noise.
- It is not. If everybody would just go to damn bed, maybe it would be quiet out. 👵

I've never tried it but I've heard that if you swear at the cosomer service robots enough they'll automatically send you to a person. Again, never tried it so unsure. I normally just try to avoid things that require me to call CS.

Curated Tumblr content is always so much better than Twitter's. We need a Tumblr posts community in here.

I don't use any social media except LinkedIn, and I have that set to all private. Just use it when I am looking for a job. I do stare at my phone all day though, but instead I am reading about board games, world news, and technology from other places.

I somewhat agree with your old person trait. But not face to face. At least a text saying not interested/I don't want to hang out anymore and then ghosting. Nobody owes you a face to face conversation. Especially if they're not interested.

My OPT is that you should be able to buy and own your software instead of perpetually renting it.

Shouting at young people who blast bad auto tuned rap music in front of my house :D Or"answering" with very very loud good rap music or black metal :D

My old person trait is refusing to buy things on internet and wanting to buy them in person. The funny thing is: My mom (63) have no problem on purchasing things online; while I (31) am afraid to do that!

My old person trait is that often prefer phonecalls over text messages.

I'm okay with instant messaging, but similar feeling.
Give me a full keyboard or give me death. I fucking hate typing on the chiclets of a virtual keyboard.

My ankles crack like someone is throwing those little rock baggies that pop with every step way too often. I have declared that my wife finds it enduring despite her near constant shock at the loudness and frequency. Also her PT friends says I have loose ankles for which I am uncertain how to prepare or prevent for whatever fate has for me.

find it enduring
Did you mean endearing?
- Endurance endearing, haha

Tabs belong below the address bar on a browser, not above. Also the menu bar should always be a thing and there should be a title bar as well, not merging the two or three (including tabs) into one single bar.

My old person trait is I think people should remove their headphones when interacting with each other IRL

Add to this not being worried about their phone more than the people they are talking to/ or spending time with

My ye old ass trait is to take sunglasses off when talking face to face with someone, looking people in the eyes creates a more connected conversation.

Company call centers should - after a reasonable wait - put you in contact with a bone and flesh human and not a fucking 010001101 robot, also those humans should be paid decently, since I don't envy the insults they, unfairly, take

My old person trait is that cars should have physical buttons for at the very least climate control and media.

My age

Videos should be landscape, 4:3 preferably, not portrait.
When I turn on a computer, it should be ready (and pref say READY) in a few seconds, not minutes and need Internet access.
Email should be fully punctuated, have correct grammar and a premise, argument, and conclusions.
I'm tolerant on short SMS or pager texts, but if it's used as immediate mail, all texts, IM, and social media messages should also be like #3.

All the words of wisdom I ever needed was in Grateful Dead lyrics.

I think people who deliver food should actually hand it to a person instead of just leaving it by the door.

i have never stayed out past midnight and i don't plan to start any time soon. if i get drunk enough and you try to keep me out i'll literally just fall asleep somewhere.

My old person trait is that anything that unnecessarily connects to the internet is suspicious and leaking my info.

On the last one, a lot of places have switched to SMS to talk to someone faster. Even if they take just as long it's a lot less frustrating that waiting on hold.

I think that buying something should be more convenient than pirating in.

Is wanting kids to get off my lawn an old person's trait?

I literally ripped up a giant amount of my lawn to put in a shitty but sizable wildflower garden. Also ripped up almost the entire perimeter and put in an unreasonable amount of lilies to surround my property.
All because when I moved in, I saw people just casually cutting through my yard.

My OPT is gardening and also being so out of whatever "it" is

I used to be with ‘it’, but then they changed what ‘it’ was. Now what I’m with isn’t ‘it’ anymore and what’s ‘it’ seems weird and scary. It’ll happen to you!

My old person trait is... get off my lawn you little sh*ts!!

My old person trait is that I exclusively wear bathrobes unless I begrudgingly leave the house.

My old person trait is that I always prefer physical media over streaming media.

My old person trait is that I think ‘ghosting’ is completely unacceptable and you owe the other person a face-to-face conversation.

Sadly "ghosting" is the norm where I'm from. Sadly.

My old person trait is that I am saving money for retirement

My old person trait is that my knees started to pop and creak in my early 20s

Turning off my phone when I got home and during week end to enjoy the moment

Restaurant menus should be on paper, not a QR code.

Can’t upvote these enough.

I got shingles when I was 11

My old person trait is you should be able to order a "coffee", small, medium or large at Starbucks, without having to learn a new language.

You can

My trait is I think cars are too digital and should be analogue. Giant touch panels are distracting and have generally bad UI design. You can control an A/C with 3 dials, 4 if you have zones and don’t need to look down at all. Pinnacle of engineering.

I will never own a car that has features behind a paywall or that I can’t directly control. Computer cars are fine as long as I have root.

Taking notes with a pencil. Since everyone likes to type their notes. I don’t.

Being annoyed by kids these days wanting this new thing called "money" in exchange for necessities

Even if vinyl is a big hit these days it's still my old guy trait. I just bought new high tech dampener feet for my turn table.

My old person triat is that i dont think i owe you shit and if i ghosted you it might be for a reason.

The dishwasher (houses that have them) in most cases is located next to the sink. Put the dirty dishes in the dishwasher, let’s cut out the middle man.

Calling these "old person traits" is making it sound like they are no longer valid. All points in the image are things any sensible person would agree with

my old person trait is that i am a 30 year old caravanner

Ghosting never happened in the days when all correspondence was written

Mine is that photos should ideally be printed, not stored in a cloud somewhere that you have to pay for forever or you lose them.

I have to eat dinner by 5pm

I agree to all of that...

Old person traits vary with generation from what I'm reading

My old person trait thinks far left are bloody stupid, far right are slightly better.

Preferring to see people in-person rather than remote. I wasn't too happy when a bunch of my coworkers switched to remote work. It's really not the same.

Test

Yeah, once. Or 732 times but at some arbitrary number you have all the right in the world to ghost people IMO.