White House says slavery is being taught wrong, should not be so negative
White House says slavery is being taught wrong, should not be so negative
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White House says slavery is being taught wrong, should not be so negative
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Well, yes? The US has this strange fixation on slavery. It is a horrible practice that is believed to traumatize people for generations. While in reality the slavery was almost everywhere these times (if we don't focus on Europe). Maybe it's time to ask yourself, has the slavery really left this deep wound or maybe it was something else?
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The problem is, this country is filled with slavery apologists like you. The only reason we have to keep reminding people how terrible slavery was is because people like you keep trying to normalize it, and it's fucking gross.
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slavery apologists like you
I am not from the US and have never been there. Sorry for not making this clear, but it's my impression as a bystander. Also slavery is horrible, we should never return to it, as if it wasn't that straightforward from the message.
because people like you keep trying to normalize it
In no way do I try to normalize it for today's reality. It used to be normal back then and we should never return there.
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what on earth ? get lost bro
Or rather, learn some history, meet some people... rectify this awful stance, please
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OK so, willful ignorance ( or fundamental misunderstandings ) and false dichotomies aside.
I'm interested in hearing what you mean by "something else".
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I'm interested in hearing what you mean by "something else".
Economy
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When I was in middle school, we had to make a list of pros and cons of slavery for classwork. I remember it being homework but I can't see that bullshit flying if the parents knew.
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Pros: Removes any ambiguity about who the shitbags are.
Cons: Now good people have to kill the shitbags to free the slaves.
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Pro: Less work for me
Con: More work for them
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wtf ?
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Pros and cons from who's perspective?
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after 200 years, the house finally lives up to its name.
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Priceless
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Oh no!! Maybe he should go back in time and prevent the developement of chatel slavery, if he's so worked up about the historical representation of slavery in-general.
That said, chatel slavery seems alive and well in the US Prison system. Maybe some of us really are too distracted by the history to bother fixing things in the present. Mr. Mangione allegedly might have something to say about it. Maybe I just wasn't paying enough attention at that cookout, back on December 4th.
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How bout we enslave this fucking nazi turd. Drag his fat fucking ass around, go full mussolini.
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If anyone deserves to be tortured and dismembered, it’s Trump.
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I can only get so erect.
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Trump feuding with a history museum. You'd think that would sound the 'fascist' alarm to his supporters, but seems like nothing will.
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That's not an alarm to them, it's a theme tune.
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I am so ready to go home and throw it in much trash Mormon mother's face. I hate that she buys into this shit.
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It's amazing how all these dumbasses look exactly the same. I knew exactly what she'd look like even before watching the video.
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Fun fact I overheard! This is a thing in cults. It's something about a uniform appearance plus appearance policing (either overt or to fit in).
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So this article talks about extensive surgery and over the top procedures, and then the only actual person it mentions apparently hasn't had much work done, just dental work and styling. And no photos. Am I taking crazy pills?
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Should not be so negative?
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No no no. My Good'ole'Boy high school curriculum told me the slaves were forced off the Plantation by the mean Union thugs in their War Of Northern Aggression.
Clearly, this picture is just out of context or propaganda or idk he was clearly doing drugs and the police were just trying to help him out but he wouldn't stop resisting.
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Robert E. Lee, the hero of the south, tortured his slaves so savagely that his own slave overseer was disgusted and refused to participate. Which leads me to believe that the scars seen in this photo should be considered "within reason."
See? Bright side to everything if you're enough of a monster.
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and that's not even getting into lynching picnics for the whole family, or community, cannibalism, using hair and other body parts of slaves to make medical devices, furniture, or decoration, and who can forget sexual slavery, raping slaves and selling the resulting children into slavery, many first hand accounts from slaves talk about constant sexual abuse. so it's not ALL just torture and mutilation of living people, or dehumanizing them in every way imaginable.
and one of the big fat myths of slavery, the docile happy slave. Never happened, slaves were very frequently rebelling, trying to organize to over throw their masters, and creating a whole systems of escape. There was no happiness in slavery, it a daily power struggle to suppress slave revolts and uprisings, and keep slaves in a constant state of fear and terror.
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Epstein files
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Idk if you seen prageru, basically had a cartoon where Christopher Columbus said how "being slave was better than being dead"
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(this ignores the thousands of taihno who committed suicide, choosing death over servitude, and how much work Colombus' men put into preventing others from choosing the same path)
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You need to take the bad with the good, otherwise you'll never understand how far we've come. We hold on to slavery to remind us what it took, how efforts were not in vain, and to continue work on pushing for the things we believe in. We are here today because of the hardships we have endured yesterday. It's not "white guilt", it's to remind the world that slavery is bad no matter who does it, to teach us what it looks like, and that we all benefit from eliminating slavery, no matter the form it takes.
When we forget those things, we have things like the anti-vacc movement. People who have their own beliefs that fly in the face of reality, who've never had the experiences first hand, and to bend the notion of what is good. It rewrites the legacy of people's efforts, obscures the lessons used to fight, and trivializes the problems of the time. It manipulates both people and purpose and turns it against each.
My own opinion: Nobody feels guilty about slavery. There are only those that feel regret it's not still around.
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Conservative idiots like Trump want to white (heh) wash slavery because they want to bring slavery back. Not just for black people, but of course especially for black people first, but also for all the other poors they think they can exploit to make themselves richer. Somehow they think everyone should be on board with this, and alas probably some subset of idiots will be even after they're already wearing the manacles themselves.
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Stupid racist white people would be slaves and be saying, "I may be a slave, but at least I'm not a black slave."
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Slavery still exists in the US, it just now only mostly focused on African Americans. The Prison Industrial Complex is an abomination.
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Yes, it still exists as the "except as punishment for a crime" loophole in the 13th amendment. And when fascists are in power, they love to make any arbitrary thing a crime so they have a justification to imprison anybody.
Once they run out of farm workers due to having deported them all, expect Trump and his cronies to be super keen to staff those same farms using slave labor -- for profit, of course -- via just rounding up whoever else they don't like on phony charges.
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Y’all know he’s demented as fuck, right?
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time to stomp some Nazi Republicans? please?
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The word "negative" doesn't appear once outside the title
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And yet the title is still an accurate summary.
Focusing on the "progress" and "hope" while teaching slavery is indeed a form of white washing of history.
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In his Truth Social website President Donald Trump described the Smithsonian as "OUT OF CONTROL" and said museums across the United States are "WOKE."
Convicted felon says museums are woke and out of control.
In a statement sent to Newsweek the Smithsonian said: "The Smithsonian's work is grounded in a deep commitment to scholarly excellence, rigorous research, and the accurate, factual presentation of history.
The world's largest museum, education and research complex says they are grounded in accurate presentation of history.
It's pretty clear that the US government is targeting the Smithsonian and other historical archives to rewrite history.
Considering the other articles linked which talk about the removal of trump's impeachments and other pressures on historical facts and accuracy, I'd be worried about the following quote:
"It's not about whitewashing it's about full context, so while slavery is obviously a horrible aspect of our nation's history you can't really talk about slavery honestly unless you also talk about hope and progress and I think we need to be focusing on the progress that we've made then and we need to stop focusing so much on the lack of progress.
So, yeh the Nazis killed a bunch of people. But they also developed the Volkswagen, Porsche and Hugo Boss. And we have all come to appreciate fancy cars and fly shirts. So, let's not focus on what the Nazis did, but instead let's concentrate on the hope that cars bring!
And even if you argue that "things are better now". Sure, somewhat. But, imo, it's not really something to celebrate. Black people can vote, but shitty racist people in power still suppress the fuck out of them.
Germany recognises it's history. It teaches it in school, it's made memorials & museums of historically abhorrent places, and it's outlawed everything related.
US still celebrates Thanksgiving.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/maiahoskin/2022/11/24/the-real-history-behind-thanksgiving/So yeh, here is the directive:
https://www.whitehouse.gov/fact-sheets/2025/03/fact-sheet-president-donald-j-trump-restores-truth-and-sanity-to-american-history/to work to eliminate improper, divisive, or anti-American ideology from the Smithsonian and its museums, education and research centers, and the National Zoo.
So, eliminate some history.
But - depending on how carefully that scalpel is wielded - it could cut away the bad parts and leave the "good" parts. Cherry picking, if you will.
Leaves a generally positive vibe of slavery.
Divisive and anti-american to whip/hang/rape slaves. So, leave that part out.
But provide the American dream for a slave by impregnating them and giving them a less crowded room and easier slave labour, or elevating them to a house position, or whatever... THATS the American dream!
Slaves that behaved were treated well.
But, just leave out the thousands of slaves that were beaten for sensless reasons because they were considered barbaric and sub-human.
Just... Ignore the fact that they were kidnapped from their home, transported for weeks in horrendous conditions, then auctioned off to rich white men. -
White House official Lindsey Halligan: "While slavery is obviously a horrible aspect of our nation's history, you can't really talk about slavery honestly unless you also talk about hope and progress ... we need to stop focusing so much on the lack of progress."
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The lack of quotation marks around any part of the title indicates it’s not a direct quote.
Is there something you feel is inaccurate about it?
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where everything discussed is how horrible our Country is, how bad Slavery was
'Bad' and 'negative' are synonyms here.
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lol
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museums should start showcasing trumps epstein and russian collusions in thier exhibits.