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Elon Musk’s lawyers claim he ‘does not use a computer’

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Elon Musk’s Lawyers Claim He ‘Does Not Use a Computer’

The claim appeared in a court filing related to Elon Musk’s ongoing lawsuit against Sam Altman and OpenAI. The Tesla and xAI owner has posted about his laptop numerous times in the past year.

[...] However, Musk has posted pictures or referred to his laptop on X several times in recent months, and public evidence suggests that he owns and appears to use at least one computer. [...]

Archived: https://archive.is/5Bg9m

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Doesn't this guy regularly stream from a laptop in a desperate attempt to seem cool?
- He has streamed path of exile 2 which is pc-only.
  
  this argument from his lawyer is probably going to twist the English language beyond obscene
  
  He streamed himself playing a hardcore character that his minions sank hours into and proved he knows nothing about playing the game. So maybe it wasn't his laptop either.
  https://youtu.be/FmEe3eUPWq4
  
  No its not, I play it on PS5.
- Extremely desperate
- Maybe he used a public library PC?
  (/s, obviously)
  
  He's and RoG Ally handheld kind if guy
  
  (/s, obviously)
  Gosh, that is beautiful notation! I'll be using it if you don't mind! Have a great day.
- Only Elon Musk could get cyberbullied on a wireless Abacus playing ARPGs in the sky.
He live streamed himself playing path of exile 2 from his private jet.
- On an account that he paid someone to grind up
  
  In this stream he kept failing on the tutorial boss, so I dont think it was his competency stand-in.
- He sat in front of a screen while his stunt double played.
  
  Then his stunt double sucks at the game too.
He doesn't use computers in the same way he doesn't abuse ketamine.
- Hold on now! He posted those clean drug tests from his computer the other day. Clearly he would not lie about his drug tests!
  
  Psh, no way Musk could afford to fake a drug test. Fake urine costs like $30!
That should be pretty easy to disprove with all of his path of exile streams.
- He’s paying someone e else to do those. Except for the ones where he sucks.
  
  I'd love to see him say under oath that he paid someone to play his game for him.
  
  I would love for him to admit that in court to try and prove he doesn't use a computer.
- Which is exactly what the other side pointed out
So are we not doing perjury anymore?
- In America, perjury is inversely proportional to your financial value.
You can't tweet without a computer. It may be a mobile one, but even that is a computer. This is a stupid claim which could only fool an idiot.
So depending on the judge, we'll just see what happens...
- Most people draw a distinction between a phone/tablet vs a desktop/laptop. It's not a distinction that can be easily defined, but most people instinctively categorize them as such.
  But regardless, the issue at hand has nothing to do with that definition. The discovery process requires them to process any applicable devices that might have info, potentially including all of the above (and more). His team said they already did his phone, but that the laptop in question is not used by him. His opponents say that he has not complied with the requirements of discovery.
  The judge will rule on whether that laptop is included in the discovery order.
- A particularly fancy drainage pipe is a computer. I think its reasonable to make the distinction that a phone /= computer for the sake of normal definitions.
  
  At which point does it become a computer? Raspberry is smaller than a phone. Steam deck feels like a phone, but runs linux. My old PDA that looks like a smartphone is definitely by definition a pocket computer. If I can make calls with my PC, is it by definition my phone?
  How many batteries do you need to push into a power bank for it to be defined as a power station? I'll shut up now.
Well we all knew he wasn't the one playing the path of exile
- He was using Neuralink and is playing with 1% of his brain capacity at all times. Trust.
A liar's lying lawyers lying? Inconceivable!
- The lawyers are taking a big risk to their licenses for lying to the court.
All Tesla cars have computers inside.
- "It's all computer"
They clearly have no idea what a computer is.
- You mean the amount of bribery makes them have "no active memory" of Elon using a computer
Didnt he have a big thing about getting bigger monitors in the white house so he could game?
Meh, doesn’t use his brain either.
Doesn't use his brain either.
A phone is a computer
- This just struck me, this is the key. They can argue that a phone is traditionally thought of as a phone. Even though technically it’s a computer, in common parlance it is called a phone. Then by extension, he wasn’t streaming on a computer, he was streaming on a laptop. So they will argue a computer is desktop.
  
  They'll argue that a computer is a woman who performs calculations and since slavery is illegal he doesn't own one.
It's all computer.
- Except in the cases that might evidence the crimes. Then it's no computer!
Disbar these lawyers. Disgraceful.
Maybe he means like one of those women at NASA.
"cannot" or "does not"
- Shan't not
All ridiculouness aside like him showing videos of him playing games, I was gonna be like, how do you suppose he sends emails or writes his posts on X?
But they counted his phone as something separate to a computer.
So many comments from people who, if they read the article, would realize that the article already said that.
- Time to plug into a WIRED subscription.
  Woops, not reading this one. I'll go speculate in the comments with everybody else.
  
  Sorry, I forgot this was a thing with Wired articles (I don't read regularly enough for it to usually be a problem) - I'll add an archive link to the OP
  
  Fair enough. I just Reader Mode it.
I am shocked I tell you, shocked. Well, not that shocked.
Depends on your definition of a "computer". A shitty laptop surely doesn't count, even less so if it runs Windows.

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