It's all tied together

I'd love for a bearded trans man to walk in there, look her dead in the eye and tell her not to worry, he has a vagina.

The law binds but does not protect us.
- This is messed up. Do they not want trans people to use any bathrooms?

Republicans will use anything to generate outrage and distract from the constant war they wage on the working class

The biggest winners of this US elections are the corporations
- we'll see. Media companies, gas companies and private prisons for sure win here, other corporations may suffer if they enact most of these policies:
  Invading cities with the US military will destroy real estate markets. My guess is this is a bluff.
  Rounding up immigrants (lets not pretend they'll be checking documents) will destroy agricultural corps and one of the US' largest exports
  Tariffs will drastically damage consumer spending and costs for electronics (which will indirectly hike data center costs).
  Tax cuts will radically increase inflation again.
- Regardless of party! Because we’re such a great country full of decadence that we have not one but two pro capitalist pro imperialism pro forever war parties!

If there are stalls with doors in the bathroom, then mind your own damn business if someone is in there. If there aren't, then it's an issue with the facility that should be fixed so anyone using them has privacy. Why are Republicans so concerned about what people do on the toilet or in the bedroom?

"Women may get attacked by trans people" says the party who by far has the larger list of offenders. Clean your own house.

You know what, aren't American stalls notorious for giant gaps in them? Maybe if they fixed that and had better stalls things like this may smooth over better. Unless that stereotype of American bathrooms is outdated or not actually the norm
- Yes they are and I hate it.
  Worse, my high school had no doors on the bathroom stalls at all (at least in the boys' room). I'm guessing it was some sort of "we don't want to catch you masturbating" sort of thing but I would almost always just hold any shitting I had to do in unless I was in drama class because the auditorium had bathrooms with doors.
- It varies, sometimes you find places that are designed better than others. I can only assume the two reasons are cost (less material) and easier to mass clean. Not designed for the users.
  Anyone being abused in any way in a bathroom by anyone is a crime and should be reported and prosecuted. What you'll find is not what Republicans are trying to sell to get votes. It even falls under the projection label, so the ones calling for action should probably be watched closer for their own actions towards other people.
Once again, every accusation is a confession.

These people are obsessed with people's genitals. Just go to the fucking bathroom. Must you go out of your way to make even taking a shit in public more uncomfortable than it needs to be?

Shut the fuck up and do your fucking job.

Insist on big dick and small dick bathrooms for guys. Really lean into it.
- What if they’re a grower not a shower? How do we sort this out we talking flaccid or erect? Can half these congress critters even get an erection without chemical help?
Many public restrooms in Iceland are unisex. These apes wouldn't last one road trip.
I'm still trying to figure out what these people [Republicans] are doing in the bathroom. I probably don't want to know. All can say is, when I'm trying to pee in a public restroom, I don't really give a shit who's in the stall next to me. I don't care what their gender is. I don't care what their birth gender was. I'm just trying to do my business and get on with my day.
- But if they don't wish me good luck, I don't want to be taking a crap next to them. Sometimes you need that emotional support on the crapper, you know?
I don't care who is with me in the bathroom. I'm not there to make friends. I wouldn't care if either Nancy Mace or Donald Trump was in the stall next to me.
Just don't talk to me unless it's an emergency, that's all I ask.

So funny what issues the conservative fossil fuel media comes up with to avoid any climate actions. People discussing genitals before extinction definitely show how Darwinism was right. Humanity will die of stupidity.

The never ending tradition of conservatives always looking for someone to hate.

If bathrooms were properly designed instead of having half walls that don't even meet, I doubt people would care nearly as much.

They'd find a reason to care because this is about maintaining patriarchy and queerphobia.
I love the way Alamo Drafthouse in Texas did this. Each stall is a fully walled environment and there's a long sinkway for everyone. No one gives a shit that it's male and female together.
- There is or was a bar and restaurant in Pensacola FL that tricked people into going into the wrong restroom if you weren't paying attention and/or drunk. It was funny and there was no panic or outrage.
- I've seen restaurants do the same thing. Nobody looks at anyone twice. It's perfect
I was in a bathroom the other day with a messed up toilet paper dispenser. I didn't notice until a woman sat in the stall next to me and I turned my head to just see full cleavage perfectly centered through this massive like 5x5 inch gap. Most uncomfortable pee of my life.
Worth noting, this was a massive bathroom with like 30 stalls and 3 people currently in it and she chose to sit right next to me :(. It ain't just urinals, guys.

if I owned the establishment

removes sign entirely

BATHROOM

"There, y'all figure it out."

"This sign is bullshit. There's no baths in that room! Just a bunch of sinks and toilets!"
- Back home we do actually use a "toilet" label for bathrooms with only toilets. Needless to say, my first visit to America made quite a few laughs when I asked where the toilets are so I can wash me hands.
- The sinks are a bath if ya try hard enough.
Canadian here, don't people just call it a washroom?

ever notice trans men don't have this problem?

We absolutely do, even if you don’t hear about it as often.
- Of course, Men are expected to deal with their own issues so being this fragile isn't going to be plastered all over the media.
- I like showing people who claim women don't want to change in locker rooms with trans women because it makes them so uncomfortable and that locker rooms should only be for "real" women photos of the most manly-looking, muscle-bound AFAB men I can find and ask them to tell me if they think women would be comfortable changing in front of those men.
  I have yet to get a yes.
  The answer to "where do they expect trans people to go" is "nowhere. Hide or die."

Just unisex the thing. They get a lesson in tolerance and everyone gets equal treatment.

If trans-men wouldn't endanger themselves by doing this, I would encourage them to chill in women toilets.

But they shouldn't put themselves in harm's way just to prove a point.

We should just treat them right and protect them from this nonsense.

We should be prepared for a fight on that front. The current uproar is about trans women. Put a trans man in power (anywhere) and the shit is really going to hit the fan. The rhetoric will shift from pseudo-sexualized bathroom nonsense to "how dare you disrupt our patriarchy."
- Transphobia both currently and for basically the last 50 years at least has always been framed and rooted in the idea of protecting women from predatory "men". Trans men have been a footnote, at most and I doubt one becoming prominent will have the impact you expect.

Democrats should hire a staffer to stand outside of the women bathroom at the capital and have them accuse every GOP women of being a man before they go to the bathroom.

They want to play these games? Let's show them what their crazy looks like

Need a big scary FTM trans man with a beard to loiter in the women's washroom because they have a vagina downstairs.
It's all about the "biology" right??
- Shows who paid attention during school. You can have XY chromosomes and be born with a vagina, no genitalia, or both. You can have XX chromosomes and be born with a penis, no genitalia, or both. So biological women doesn't mean anything in the context they are using it.

I find it incredible that global warming is skyrocketing, debt is skyrocketing, we have all sorts of existential political and health issues and the thing people worry about is...

Trans people in bathrooms.

Like, what the heck?

Even if I was anti-trans (and I am not), why would I lose so much sleep over that? What's gonna happen, I see what looks like the opposite sex in the bathroom and my head explodes?

Even racial segregation made slightly more sense because actual societal segregation was the existing state, precedent, and public consensus (as horrible as it was) but... trans people are already mixed into the public?

Climate change and wealth inequality are the reason for the hate campaign. If you can make politics about minorities you can make it not about the rich people and rich countries paying their share to deal with current issues. My siblings and I’s rights and blood is the price to keep the ultra wealthy in their private jets without fear that the people their climate actions kill will revolt and they won’t lose a wink of sleep over it.
They lack the ability to apply critical thought and effort towards real problems and it's apparently an appealing political trait for the average American voter

Unisex bathrooms or bust

With actually private toilets. Let everyone defecate in peace. We can share the sinks if we must.

If you're not running a positronic neural network then you're a biological woman

Are you saying Data isn't a man? Because he's-
Which just makes this whole thing even more nonsensical and confusing since androids don't have the need to expel waste the way humans do, and thus would not need to use a restroom.
- Technically, that would depend on what would power the android. An android that gets energy from processing human food would work pretty well and there is sci-fi precedent for it- androids in the Aliens films eat food.
  That said, I would hope they would have a more efficient way to get rid of that food waste than humans, so maybe they wouldn't need bathrooms.

Last night I was thinking about the Sarah McBride situation and it got me thinking.

"I wonder if the first black person in congress was told he had to use the Colored Room?"

She just needs to pee!

Have you watched Hidden Figures? There's a point in the movie where having different "colored" restrooms (at NASA in the 1960s) comes into play and... well, the resolution is pretty satisfying.

I will continue to ask these morons if they’ve ever heard of homosexuality. There have been people attracted to other people they see in the bathroom since people started peeing together. Gender does not define sexuality, and neither gender nor sexuality define pedophilia.

To them homosexuality is a disease too. This one is just easier for them to justify at the moment. Once this battle is won they'll absolutely move onto non hetero sexualities.
- The only reason trans rights are a big topic now is because they started losing the war against homosexuality and so they found themselves an easier target instead.

I say we push them harder, hard enough that they mandate single person unisex bathrooms, with the fancy auto room washing function they have in Japan. Then I can finally crap in peace.

I mean if she wants us to break her legs, who are we really to deny her?

yknow its funny, because if you really wanted to, you could argue that the very pretense of being trans is a biological factor, since there must be something beyond what is just "social norms and rules" determing gender. Such that trans people are technically, biological women.

Just not physically. So the correct way to write this would actually be "women determined to be such as by the definition of the classical physical definition, plus the correspondingly accurate neurotypical construction that tends to align with the concept of a woman more broadly"

just rolls right off of the tongue.

Until we figure out humanoid robots all people are biological and trans women are women, so....

Race isn't biological.

Edit: I will leave the original comment, but as I realized after a conversation in this thread, unclear humor in dark times is in poor taste. I don't support either sign, and I deeply want everyone to be able to freely express who they are and how they feel without discrimination or fear. Things are scary for our trans relations, and now is not the time to be unclear about one's support. My apologies.

Thanks to @Incandemon@lemmy.ca for their understanding and generosity of spirit for taking the time to state what should have been obvious to me. Honest mistake yall.

She wants to diddle kids and this is her path to doing so

Menopause is going to be her karma.

This Mace lady will do anything for attention. She once spray painted her own sidewalk to create a false flag antifa harassment narrative.

If you had transition surgery and therefor you couldn't make use of a urinal, could you make the argument that the bathrooms are not fair and equal for you and therefor unconstitutional?

I’m pretty sure men’s rooms have toilets in them, but it’s been several years since I’ve been in one so I’m not sure

I don't understand why it's necessary for trans people to have a specific place for them to go, like, at all. We have been using public bathrooms for the last hundred years. It's never been a problem before, and it's not a problem now. This entire thing is manufactured outrage about a problem that doesn't exist.
- The way I see it there are only two realistic outcomes. We either let all women use the women's bathroom (crazy concept) or we have the gender neutral communal bathroom/showers from Starship Troopers.
Being trans is not a disability unless asshole bigots make it one.

The same word for a trans female human. Did you think that was a slam dunk lol
Y'all are the same as those in 30's Germany who turned on all mentally ill, gay, disabled and Jewish. You just exist today instead. You are the same kind of person

Biological cripples?

She looks like the kind of person that cusses you out when you get her order right.

isn't that special?/s.. Now you have to give a DNA sample to take piss. Too much trouble. I think I'll just go piss on your leg.