I own a long dagger/short sword. The hilt is in the design of the German eagle with its wings spread out as the hand guard and in the middle of the hand guard is a swastika. The scabbard is also adorned with swastikas on the top, mid section, and bottom.
I don't want to own this piece as I don't want to be seen as a Nazi sympathizer or anything of the sort, but I don't want to sell it to someone who actually is a Nazi sympathizer or something like that.
What do I do with it besides trash it? I don't want to trash it because it's decent quality. It's not historic in any way (which disturbs me to think about) but it's well made.
I was just hoping someone could come up with something that wouldn't involve damaging anything? Idk I don't want to damage it but I don't want it to exist đ
I mean, the only person who would want it is a nazi...
If you knew a blacksmith they might smelt it, but I don't even know if that would be a waste of money/effort for them. Maybe one would do it for the symbolism? Same for a scrap recycling place.
Since it's not genuine, I'd just destroy it. I think real historical artifacts have their place in museums for educational purposes. Reproduction Nazi memorabilia isn't worth shit.
It wasn't clear to me from the post that it isn't genuine. I interpreted the post to mean that it wasn't famous in some way, just a standard issue dagger, but that it wasn't a reproduction.
Are you sure about that? I mean, maybe you're a person who's way more into blades than I am, but a regular person would be hard pressed to differentiate between a "quality" blade and a "mall ninja shit" blade.
It's definitely well constructed when it comes to actual use. I've used it for test cutting before and it's held up just fine. It wouldn't be useful for defense but it would function as a dagger/short sword.
And I'm no expert but I studied machining and metalworking in school so I know good steel.
Read enough comments to learn it's a replica. Got a talented buddy with lathe? They might be able to transmorgify it into something very different, maybe even cool-looking.
Keep it like it is, and make a point to explain to anybody what your views are. I understand you not wanting to be considered a Nazi, but it is still ab almost 100 years old piece of history and I think it would be a pity to trash it.
Never forget history, means also keep "historic memorabilia". There is nothing bad in keeping a piece of history, good or bad, it's all our history and we should always be wary of trying to " trash it ".
Edit: you should edit your post and specify its not original. Them just trash it or melt if you can use the materials.
We can collect historic pieces because they have a value, even if that value is describing some of the worst aspects of history in order to remember them so we donât repeat it.
A fake piece? I don't understand the market for that. If it was a movie prop or for a legit reenactment group (as in not nazis), it could have some value, but as a generic fake someone wanted to own a Nazi thing and someone else wanted to make a Nazi thing for profit. I would have a hard time keeping that around. Thereâs no positives to it.
I have a similar item that I don't want to display but also don't want to get rid of - I inherited it from my grandfather who got it by killing a Nazi.
How do I keep the memory of an item that represents killing Nazis to me without it looking sympathetic? Defacing the symbols might be the right way
I don't think you need to deface it. You could even display it if you're so inclined. Just make it clear to people who see it that you aren't a Nazi sympathizer in the same way you've done here and you'll be fine.
Get a display case and put a note with the story on it. That way it's clear its being kept from historical/sentimental value and not because you like Nazis.
It may be worth calling a few reputable museums to ask if they are interested in it. You could retain ownership while they display it, and that way you share the story of your grandfather without giving away the thing he left you.
Frame it with an engraving telling the story. That's an awesome piece of history to have, but you would definitely need to display it in some way that immediately communicates "this is historical".
Get a label maker and add a label saying "aquired by killing a nazi" (there's probably something cooler/nicer than a label, like engraving it, and there's probably a better way to word it too)
Thatâs an interesting question and wonder what most would say. Thereâs a story behind yours thatâs rooted in world history and obviously affected your family. IMO, youâre allowed to keep it without looking sympathetic.
Would that be so bad, though? The Nazi wastes money on a useless decorative blade and you get to take some money from a Nazi that might otherwise have gone to something worse.
Donate it to a museum with a sterling reputation or destroy it. Sounds like there's no value to a museum, so that leaves one option. Take it to someone who can melt it down in front of you to make sure it's not sold on a black market.
My mom & her brothers were arguing over family silverware. The older of my two uncles just took the silverware case & disappeared with it.
That year for Christmas, every immediate family received a custom made ring made from the melted silverware.
Theyâre not anything valuable. They look handmade & some of the pieces were outright ugly, but it worked.
We all still have that silverware & it means a lot to all of us.
To OP, completely understand you might not want jewelry made from a nazi knife, but maybe thereâs an option to do something worthwhile while that melted metal, rather than just scrapping it?
If nothing else, you could encase a copy of mein kampf in the metal & have a fancy ass doorstop you can kick around.
âIs that a brick of silver holding your door open?â
âNope. Itâs a deactivated copy of that hitler book.â
I'd honestly destroy it in some way, due to what it represents. Fuck saving or selling it.
We need to remember this history and all its details obviously, but we have a gargantuan amount of written and recorded history already enough, so I'd happily destroy any of that trash I found. With a smile.
I know the gutteral instinct is to burn it, or melt it down. But I think you should donate it to your local history muesem. This applies for all war stuff you have, not just nazi stuff.
I think its important for all generations to not be allowed to forget what did happen, and what could absolutely happen again if we forget.
Sure, it's "your" sword, but I just feel like it should serve a more important purpose.
All war used uniforms/weapons/equipment I'd say is historic. Even if it was just a helmet used in the civil war, or a soldiers flask in WWI.
It may not be individually a talking point for something historic, but it shows what they used at the time. Especially if you have multiple pieces from the same time period.
And as time goes on, it gets more important. Because as time moves forward, and we have so many advancements in our world, this piece will not advance. Always a visualisation of its time.
Right now I don't think anyone would consider pieces from the afghanistan war to be "historic", but the things we currently see as modern, will be relics in 100 years.
We're barely and I mean BARELY getting to that point of the Viet Nam war pieces seeming as relics.
I think a good rule of thumb is "if the soldiers who would have used the item would have died of old age by now, THEN it's a relic."
Which this certainly is. Which is why I think it should be in a glass case, with a little description on its history.
If you want to give it away, look for a museum. Alternatively look for a history group or a theater group you could give it to. Turning a real world items into functional stage props with connection to the time period of plays is is pretty neat.