Sooo... This is happening on Imgur

astroturfing

Earlier this week a user posted "kill Nazis" and got a warning from Imgur saying that imgur is an inclusive platform, welcome to everyone. (which apparently includes Nazis?)
That's what kicked this off (again).

There was already some upset feelings in the community because at the beginning of the week one of the "Elbow Deep In A" accounts got suspended over a "Gone Mild" drawing of a goblin girl. So it didn't take much for the community to be really upset with "business daddy"

Earlier this week a user posted “kill Nazis” and got a warning from Imgur saying that imgur is an inclusive platform, welcome to everyone. (which apparently includes Nazis?)
Where nazis are welcome, no one else is.
At first I was annoyed that Imgur got blocked for people in the UK. Now I'm relieved. Something something Nazi bar...
- I'm just thankful that the community isn't one to make it a nazi bar, even if business daddy wants it to be.
I recently got something similar on reddit. I don't remeber the exact quote, but "I can't believe these people haven't been murdered yet" is apparently a credible death threat now.
- I got a 24 hour ban for saying Danielle Smith should stand on her head so the blood will rush to get brain and she could have a coherent thought. "Promoting Violence"
  I got a 72 hour ban for responding to someone who said Vance will never be US President. I said he would when Trump had the inevitable coronary from eating too many cheeseburgers. "Promoting violence"
  Perma-ban for responding to a story about Kristi Noem telling Canada how to run border security with saying she should keep her cunt ass on her side of the border. "Inciting violence".
  Reddit WANTS to be a right wing echo chamber and looks for excuses to ban people who don't agree with that world view.
That second paragraph might as well be written in Cyrillic for all the sense it made. Do I want to know what gone mild goblin girls look like, I feel like I don't, but I'm also morbidly curious.
- Basically a drawing of a goblin girl in a bikini, and there's a few accounts whose names start with "ElbowDeepInA..." (it started with "ElbowDeepInAHorse")

Somebody was banned for posting the GIF of the Nazi Guy getting knocked out (you know the one).

The community is not having it.

Every time I walk past that stretch near Pike and 3rd in Seattle, right over that bit of concrete where the nazi got laid the fuck out, I punch the air. Every time.
- Damn, that's where it happened?? I fucking bike right past that!!
- Someone needs to make a monument, like that woman hitting the nazi with her purse. Maybe, until then, some graffiti to make the location to people passing by? Or maybe some other cheap temporary display.
Imgurians are an odd bunch but I'm glad they're anti Nazi.
- Yeah, best politics of any centralised social media by a long shot.
No wonder. Some rich guy must have got very upset. Strange though, plenty of people get punched all the time, and there are plenty more GIFs people getting punched. Banning specifically the Nazi guy getting punched isn't good PR I think...
- gill o' teens
I don't know the one
- @tanisnikana@lemmy.world was so kind to link the video for us who don't know.
  https://lemmy.world/comment/20957500
You mean Charlie Kirk getting shot in the neck?
- That was funny too, but no they’re talking about this.
- a lot of people, regardless of what they think of charlie kirk, got traumatized because it is very graphic. i think some people encouraged playing tetris as a way to get your mind off that video. is it insensitive to tell people to play tetris after watching that graphic video?
  https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7828932/
That video always makes me uncomfortable because I dont know the actual context. Maybe he was in Halloween fancy dress?
Yes fuck nazis, but I dont know in my bones the person deserved it.
- Go find out then
  Wearing Nazi apparel is never acceptable
- Halloween fancy dress?
  Dude.. give me a break.
- The sources for this video indicate the person wearing the armband:
  Harassed a black man on a bus.
  Walked around downtown Seattle for an hour dressed that way.
  Had several verbal confrontations with passerby who commented on his clothing.
  Source 1
  Several 911 calls were placed about this man attempting to instigate fights.
  The man declined to file a police report after the police did appear.
  Source 2
  For at least an hour at any point leading up to this, the person wearing the armband could have taken it off and stopped interacting with others. To my knowledge, the person who was punched has never spoken to media to explain why they were dressed as such, despite the massive internet fame of the video.
  Do you still feel uncomfortable? Do you know in your bones if the person deserved it?
- Consider:
  Someone is getting knocked the F out on camera.
  There is a crowd of people
  No one is stopping or diffusing the situation
  No one is stopping over the check on the fallen
  Then calculate it appears to be a guy wearing a nazi arm band
  then consider that it would be the shittiest idea for a halloween costume south of blackface and even wearing nazi garb would likely get you a rightful ass-kicking.
  There's no math there that makes that even slightly questionable.
- Yeah, his hand coming up in a way that could be "this isn't what you think" doesn't help. The description makes the situation sound very different though and there's not much of an excuse for the armband right now. But yeah, not a fan of the gif now I've seen it
- Bait used to be believable SMH my head...
imgbox is the way to go
The one that gets its tooth knocked out?
Man I love that clip, you can live vicariously through it for a second.
Yeah and the community does not understand what it means to protect your audience from certain content. Violence is violence. At this point it does not matter who is who. But the community just had too much lead in the water and is unable to form their own thoughts, thus just follow the other sheep.

"wait wait, this isn't as bad as it looks, there's a subtle context here that..."
-POW-
He did not visualize that coming.
- Ha. Nice subversion.
He tried a jedi force trick to stop the punch. And failed.
Have you ever lived if you never have punched a Nazi?
should've been ran out of town on a rail like homer stokes in the 2000 film "o brother where art thou". seriously!
if you have a time machine, please prevent that red scare and also encourage any socialists/communists to express themselves. seriously!
if this were a socialist country, whoever got punched would've been in jail, and the person doing the punching would probably serve in the red army, working to protect the proletariat. seriously!
richard b spencer is an a-hole. seriously!

Imgur has pissed me off long enough that I decided to roll my own this summer. When all I need is a place to store stuff for easy linking, building a web frontend is pretty trivial.

Plus I'm not limited to whatever file type and size imgur decides.

And guess what, my site condones punching Nazis:

That tasty gif never gets old.
Boom! Knocked the fuck out.
- Punching nazi's is always the correct, right, and moral choice and action.
Out of curiosity, why build your own when CopyParty exists? Spin it up in Docker and call it a day.
- To be honest you don't need to either of them. You can just upload images to your own instance unless some instances have disabled image uploading?
- Because I'm too old and crusty to use docker. Also, yet another hobby project because, apparently, I have too few unfinished ones.
  EDIT: Plus I want the ability to selectively publish via bittorrent as well. Forgot that part.
This video with sound is like my emotional support video 🥰 my ASMR is the sound of Nazis being punched
Site address?
- dreifir.com
  ...but signup isn't possible yet (no, I will not allow anonymous uploads).
  It looks like shit, but it works. DM me if you're interested in testing it, and I'll set up a login for you.
I was not prepared for that dopamine. Thank you good cryptid

based

The rise in nazis thinking they are acceptable

Nazis and other supremists are the reason intolerance needs to exist.
- The social contract of tolerance doesn't extend to those who are intolerant. They are outside the protection of Tolerant Society's protection, and the Tolerant are free (and, in fact, strongly encouraged) not to tolerate them, because they aren't covered.
They are becoming so by way of people not doing anything about it, and literally voting them into power.

kind of wish we would stop letting them have Nordic runes.

And Buddhist symbols 卍卐
- That's still going to take time. It is like their main symbol. Education on that in schools will go a long way. And it's not just Buddhist either. Native Americans and Irish used to use them to.
  Before 1930s that symbol was in magazines and shit too.
I came here to say I'm still mad they make me hesitate to write in Futhark. One more reason to give them the Indiana Jones treatment
- Are we putting them in a museum or off a Zeppelin?
  Because I wanna ride a Zeppelin

It is always okay to punch Nazis. You don't need a reason. (serious answer though: I have no idea what kicked it off, my comment still stands though, it's always okay to punch Nazis.)

So I infrequently use Imgur and basically a user got banned for saying 'kill all nazis' and another user's post got taken down that had anti-nazi rhetoric. This is the most recent of a few scenarios where the mods have been seen as incompetent or overall shitty and so the community revolts. Honestly kinda dig it, at least they can coordinate and show a unified front....granted it's slacktivism to a point but it gets people's attention? Idk how I feel about it honestly.

People talk of Imgur being a leftist echo chamber. I have had more than enough neoliberal types on there argue about the benefits of capitalism to me or that we shouldn't have worker solidarity. I feel when these events happen, it's part legitimately pissed of users but a lot of people just riding the up vote wagon.

It still surprises me that people use Imgur as a social media site. Imgur to me is a place that hosts image to be used on other social media sites. Using imgur as a social media site is like using a url shortener as a social media site. What's next, Captcha becomes a social media hangout?

Imgur has been pretty shit at hosting images for other sites for about a decade because it's trying very hard to keep people captive on its site. They added ways to prevent hotlinking and if I paste an imgur link in a chat, starting with i., supposedly a direct link to the image, the preview will not work and the page the link sends to will always open their whole site around that image. They really really want people to stay on there, and interact, or watch ads. AFAIK they have made that change about a decade ago as they wanted to monetize.
At least there won't be bots with Captcha
Hosting is half of it, but the user-submitted section is a thriving social ecosystem. It's a lot like reddit or Lemmy, but all submissions are image-based only with sizable comment sections attached like anywhere else. I was very involved there 12 years back and enjoyed it quite a lot. I tried really hard to earn my green (highest karma) badge, but I believe I got second or third highest before running out of steam. You had a profile full of badges and stuff, and users actually valued karma there, unlike on reddit or Lemmy.
But the mood changed other time and it became a hub for bullshit, sob stories and very tired, very played-out jokes. Then the eventual UI changes drove the nail in the coffin and I found it unusable.
My neighbor uses Imgur as his main social media. I take that with a grain of salt though since he's a millenial who only used flip phones til 2022, there are dozens like him, dozens!
As social media? I'm getting old. It used to just be an image hosting site.
- I'm so old I remember the first post. Hey you can host images for reddit here. The other image hosting sites at the time sucked, they were slow, purged content frequently, and were full of ads. I signed up immediately and imgur was good for almost 10 years and nearly the only place images from reddit reddit users were hosted. I think the pressure to monetize combined with reddit's own image hosting push sent them into the enshitification death spiral.
I used it that way for years. It's better for memes than fediverse or Reddit, except for two things: 1 occasionally the user base freaks the fuck out and starts spamming the same thing, like this. I don't like Nazis, but that also means I don't want literally everything on my funny picture site to be about keeping them out. 2 increasingly all the popular stuff isn't memes at all, but shitting on trump and musk. See point 1.
Then they blocked the UK because they didn't want to put an age field on their registration form (note this is not to do with age verification)
- 1 occasionally the user base freaks the fuck out and starts spamming the same thing, like this. I don’t like Nazis, but that also means I don’t want literally everything on my funny picture site to be about keeping them out. 2 increasingly all the popular stuff isn’t memes at all, but shitting on trump and musk.
  Doesnt sound all that different from here especially on #1, case in point beans, jeans and more recently corn for some reason
- 1 occasionally the user base freaks the fuck out and starts spamming the same thing, like this. I don’t like Nazis, but that also means I don’t want literally everything on my funny picture site to be about keeping them out
  Browse under certain tags. It wont be 100% gone but its better. I recommend starting with viewing the "Caturday" Tag.
  https://imgur.com/t/caturday

The amount of people making excuses for Nazis in this thread, is disgusting. Get fucked Nazi sympathizers. 🖕

Who?
- Idk, man, but its a statement that gets you upvotes.
Remove the "ympathizers" and the space before
Nazi sympathizers are Nazis
Great thread for adding to your blocklist.
- This but unironically. Screw Nazis.
To be fair, they do make a good drinks (jagermeister)
- Yes, this one right here, Democracy Officer.

Just because I have a Nazi tattoo and go to Nazi rallies and think ALL Jews and Minorities should die DOESNT make Me a NAZI! In FACT it makes YOU a Nazi!

-Republicans!

A lot of reddit users, especially those who have recently been permabanned due to the great censorship purge, are just hanging out there now. Not much censorship.

It's super antifa. I scroll there a lot when I'm in a meme mood.

I'd say it started going hard political around the same time as everything else. February 2025.

Yep I split my time between Lemmy and Imgur to fill the void after leaving reddit, cause Lemmy alone unfortunately isn't enough to show you everything there was to see on reddit.
That said, be warned that it's corporate owners have no problems with collecting as much data as they can off your phone and selling it to anyone who's buying. Just look at this shit:
So if you do decide to go there, do yourself a favor and wear a condom. Install DuckDuckGo and enable "app tracking protection", and get a DNS-level adblocker on your phone as well. AdGuard or NextDNS are both fine choices.
- I just gave up imgur myself for voicing an opinion of civil disobedience and then told why don't I go there myself with a gun and start shooting. Nuance seems to be dead everywhere.
- There is a reason imgur enshitified the mobile web version of their website.
- +1 for AdGuard DNS. Using apps without it is a damn nightmare. Almost thought my phone had some kind of virus the other day when I temporarily turned it off and then opened mapquest
- Thanks that's good info to have.
  I'm hearing they are starting to censor but that must be kinda new.
  Too bad.
  It was, as you say, a decent reddit alternative for images/memes.
Wait how do you use imgur besides posting images
- It's got a frontpage with public posts and comments

Wait, how is "not equal to" a Nazi symbol?

It is a symbol used to intend that races are not equal.
- Uuuuugggghhhhh
- Fun fact: that's why most computer programming languages use "!=" instead of "≠"
Not Equal Sign

You know what? I don't care what kicked it off. I don't care if it's a billionaire paying for bots. I'm just glad that the kind of people that get programmed by social media to vote for horrible shit might finally get programmed to do some good for a change.

Not a chance.

A damn sight better than fucking corn.

"what kicked it off?" gestures broadly at everything

I'd say it all started in the late 1960s with Nixon's implementation of the southern strategy. What we're seeing today is the resultant avalanche of American fascism, appropriately composed of fragile white snowflakes.
- For LGBT+ and PoC it's been a violent, fascist state against them for a long time. Just now it's affecting the white people to a point they're uncomfortable with but make no mistake, they'll just let it happen again in a few more years.
- Well it started with a genocidal colonial project. Then it started with the repression of class revolts like Bacon's Rebellion. Then it started with the framing of a union of states that gave extra representation to rural slave-owners because their economic production was important. But it all started when those rural slave-owners wanted to make sure that new territorial expansions (remember, genocidal colonial project) also allowed slavery. Later it started when Lincoln was assassinated and his successor, Andrew Johnson, gave up on Reconstruction so the seditious slave-owning traitors weren't held accountable for the sedition or slavery and were allowed back into seats of political power.
- if only hubert humphrey was elected in 1968
  oh and this is my 300th comment here on this lemmy instance. seriously!

When faced with a difficult decision, Elon always does what's reich.

are you proud of that comment, cos I am

We need to take back the Thorn. Too many things are written as Ye in fake middle English (or fake early modern) which should be written with the thorn!

Talk to the thorn guy who misuses it all the time on here. Getting people to use it correctly first would be a start.
I disagree strongly with your position (taking symbols from race supremacists and nationalists is great but sweet baby back ribs I don't like seeing þ show up on my internets), but I respect you're brave enough to stake a controversial and yet dignified position.
Agreed, but be careful. People around here have really strong opinions about thorn usage
- It'þ bigoted if you aþk me. Not my fault I have a þpeech impediment.
- I've noticed that but have no idea why - can you explain?
I would like to see a captcha of sorts where before someone could post to the internet or send a text message they need to prove they understand basic grammar and spelling.

What's the deal with the grid symbol? The "hashtag" with extra lines?

I believe the point is the swastika is actually hidden in the grid.
- Thanks, that makes sense-ish.

Also aren’t the tattoos on the Secretary of War ^TM neo-nazi?

Yes

Stop using the fucking service! I'm so sick of people complaining about all of these tech companies, but they continue to use it. People need to realize they have an addiction issue and treat that shit.

People still using imgur?

People are still using reddit and Twitter, of course they're still using imgur.
Imgur also has an interesting niche that isn't covered by alternatives yet.
- we need imgbox
- I don't really notice that many people using it tbh, they blocked the UK rather than comply with child data protection laws and its not that often I see failed to load imgur pictures. It happens, but the vast majority of images are fine.

Imgur did this same thing before not too long ago. People posted the gif for several days. I think some accounts were lost.

One of the reasons I left, they were banning accounts that posted the nazi asshat getting punched. It was also broadly pro Ukraine, and apparently Ukraine was geolocked from imgur, but not russia
- Me too. I deleted a 10 year old account. I used to love that little corner of the net, even when it was small.

I don't know, but I'm gonna take a wild guess and say some Nazis pissed some people off... As they do.

I don't get it. They clearly have a left leaning base. Why throw that away?

what

Any idea whether imgur is still allowing advertising from AfD? I ended up migrating away from them because of that and haven't been back.

I remember they made a statement about it and I think they stopped.

They might be using the wrong swastika but I get the sentiment

Explain please. All the ones I see in the image are shaped like four adjoined letter L's which is the same way around that the Nazis used. Or are you referring to the fact that most of them aren't stood on a corner, diamond-wise?
- I reckon it's the latter, I noticed it too. Nazis are the only ones who use it tilted like that, as far as I know.
see it's interesting to me because I thought it was the way it looks like it should spin that matters, with the Buddhist one looking like it should spin clockwise and the Nazi one looking like it should spin counter clockwise. Is it the 45 degree tilt that makes the big difference?
- It's the direction the legs go. Nazis mirrored the eastern one and then tilted it 45°.

they could be spamming that webcomic that explains "the paradox of tolerance" by k. popper ;) it would be very fitting to the ongoing situation.

PS. I couldn't find a cleaner, high res. version and pictoline.com (listed there at the source) only has it in spanish. To make things even worse, there are many edited versions that replace nazis with other ideologies :/ f* the volatility of the internet... Oh. gotta search the internet archive... yeah, nope... not there either. Anyone can find a better version or knows the original source to this? else shall we try upscaling this JPG?
- Ironically found a bigger version on twitter of all places.

Good on them

Found one

The top right picture needs "HH" added to it. It's what people use on license plates. Used to be banned in Germany, but I saw one yesterday so I think My Little Nazi has unbanned it.

It's the city-code for Hamburg "Hansestadt Hamburg -> HH".
- Nope. I mean, yes, it is, but the one I saw yesterday had a Freiburg code (FR) and then HH.
- Don't even try with the smooth brains bro these people are not ready to be unplugged.
- Especially funny because hamburg is a pretty leftist city

take that, nazis

use imgbox, everyone

This sort of things seems to happen on Imgur at least once a month....

hey i'm thinking about studying on marxism-leninism (and variations therein). is there any way i can study in layman's terms without losing focus quickly, and is there also any way i can encourage myself to study on ml?

???

nice

Everyone is posting the same image.

yes

https://rimgo.fsky.io/

Did Trump said he was a nazi or something? What's with these companies and tolerating them?

a company has no moral guiding principals outside of monetary gain. its board of directors members may have their own individual viewpoints, but as a collective, a corporation is representative only of the shareholder's shared interest in making some money. if they wanted anything else, they would collectivize into another form.
generally speaking the best, i mean the best, you can expect from a BoD member is liberalism and all that entails. from a liberal perspective, pacifism is a virtue to be signaled, not an overall approach to the world with a goal of bringing about a just and fair society. liberals preaching non-violence don't really care if someone is preaching violence so long as they don't practice violence and the results of the preaching of violence remain unseen.
that's how you wind up with liberals saying that the founder of turning point usa did things the right way and denouncing someone doing exactly the things he said were good to do, but moreover, denouncing people who have trained in violence accessing that violence in self defense. in the fight between fascism and anything other than fascism, violence must be used to denounce fascism because it is the only language fascists speak. you can use non-violence to interact with other political positions. those are positions who do not practice solely violence. but fascism believes access to violence grants license to use that violence. you can only counter this belief by rendering it scared to show itself in public