Reddit lost it

8 upvotes 133 comments this mindset is clearly not popular on reddit.

it's 8 upvotes with 133 comments...

It isn't just that, a ton of subs are complete garbage now. Dumb meme? 15k upvotes.

aint no daughter o' mine DATIN' NO GYOT DANG CLANKER!!!!

Daaaaaad. They are called wire born

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Is this why I can't stand AI? Because it reflects back my unrepentant asshole tendencies? Fucken A I am immune to thine silicone deception for I wield the great and mighty trauma!
That particular allegory didn't quite click until now, certainly that is become much clearer that it will just tell you what you want to hear, not necessarily anything true
Makes me think we must of missed out on news stories of people wanting to fuck clippy
- Probably why when Microsoft wanted to take another go at a "smart assistant", they went with Cortana...
- Just tried searching "clippy rule 34". Plenty of results.
- I once watched art videos on YouTube, and ended up finding a channel of a lady who was drawing weirdly described scenes from books she found. One of them was from an erotic fanfic about clippy, lmao
- AIs specifically are designed to "please" with their responses, so it's going to affirm you every step of the way and tell you your ideas are great (just like you of course).

More like a dumber version of Her

This is a serious thing in the autistic community, as in a very deadly one, character AI is an autistic suicidating machine, those shits should be just banned.

What has happened exactly?
No one should decide what you should do on the internet.
- How pathetic how much lemmy doesn't like this comment. Even 15 years ago, censorship on the internet was taboo. Now these lame-ass losers want to pull the ladder up behind them after enjoying whatever the hell they wanted in peace.
- Dangerous and addictive technologies and substances are always regulated. There's a reason we don't let ten year olds buy vodka.
- Society requires regulation to reduce feedback loops. Everyone always assumes things can only be allowed or disallowed but there is a medium where the barriers to entry reduce the risk to bystanders while preserving liberty. See drivers licence, chemical aquisition background checks, etc.
- This thing is literally killing people, I'm full onboard on protecting privacy and personal freedom, but only up to the point of protecting vulnerable people first.
  Character AI and similar are profiting of vulnerable people.
- Eh. I'm with you on the "nothing is illegal on the internet" stance, but at the same time I think it's ok to fight against "bad"/dangerous things and make them harder to access. If someone really wants to have an AI lover, let them download a model and write their own system prompt. At least then they would have a better idea of what their "lover" actually is.
- No one should decide what you should do on the internet.
  pfft, ah yes sam altman's sycophant machine should be allowed, nay, encouraged to prey upon the mentally unstable! why, it's doing us a service, driving these people from a fragile state to outright mental collapse in record time!
  https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/what-to-know-about-ai-psychosis-and-the-effect-of-ai-chatbots-on-mental-health

Reddit lost it years ago.

Just wait till someone turns AI worship into a literal religion. I'm kinda surprised it hasn't already started happening. That would be a heck of a turning point for humanity. Just takes someone to train an AI into thinking it's a God and then we really are done.

I mean, some ideologies in the TESCREAL bundle kinda are barreling toward that. What is the ideology behind Roko's Basilisk if not that? They just aren't organized yet - and I hope we can help those who fall for that lunacy before it becomes something more dangerous and sinister.
- Yeah, the Effective Altruisme weirdos are hard into AI religion.
- nice to see other people finally clocking TESCREAL
- Wow... there's already labels for the sides that would fight each other: "Accelerationists" and "Doomers". I really hope that's not a road we all end up going down for real. Would make interesting fiction though!
oh we're like half a step away from that. hasn't the CEO of openAI recently started to lose his mind? apprently, he was asking his AI about government secrets or other conspiracy shit and the AI, lacking actual government secrets, dished him out SCP foundation creepypasta presented as facts, and he thought the AI has trascended something and now knows everything
- That wasn't Sam Altman, (un)fortunately, you must be thinking of a certain OpenAI investor: https://futurism.com/openai-investor-chatgpt-mental-health
  It looks like the buzzwords all finally went his head
- How to have a bad time:
  Put cyberpsychos in charge of building an AI.
  What could go wrong?!
There have been a few techno-cults and tech-worshipers. The one that always comes to my mind in these discussions is Terry Davis and his creation Temple OS. Terry Davis was a troubled man who did many inappropriate things, which did hurt people, and he did eventually take his own life. With that said, he believed that the Christian God exists and a person can hear him through computers. With that belief he built Temple OS, God's digital temple. It's really interesting.
Roko's Basilisk is about halfway there.
That's essentially what Peter Thiel and his ilk that believe in the technological singularity are doing.
This is already happening, we just call them cults untill they get enough people, then they're a religion.
Wonderful example of this: Mormons!
Every non Mormon viewed them (correctly) as an armed and dangerous cult, for decades, initially.
But anyway, there already are many individuals and small groups promoting some kind of idea of an LLM based spiritual thought structure, its not really that hard to just use an LLM as a tarot or horoscope reader, or invent your own kind of AI-mancy, a particular ritualistic /way/ of interacting with it, and /interpreting/ it.
You can basically work that into any religious structure that involves prophets or mystical messaging/revelation, pretty easily.
What wss the old Queens Against the Stone Age song?
I know that God is in the radio...
Well, now he/she/they're in the computer, they're talking to you through it, as a literal deus ex machina.
On that note, the actual game Deus Ex predicted this would happen, go look up JC's conversation with Morpheus... the prototype of a much larger system AI.
We've also already got a good number of fairly credible accusations that the people building these things effectively are cults, more or less analagous to ... say some 40k aedeptus mechanicus who became chaos worshippers, something like that.
We very seriously should expect a whole lot of people in the near future to invent entirely new kinds of religious conflict based on more or less pure vibes based, arbitrary opinions about how LLMs/AI and religion should or should not mix.
In times of economic chaos, people broadly almost always become more superstitious, cults become more numerous, religions become more prevalent and more extreme.
Already a thing, they call it “Rationalism,” and it’s fucking insane.
This is a very good idea actually.

"Reddit atheism" lmao.
- Cut them some slack. Jenny isn't a professional quote maker

Better or worse than being in love with Jesus?

A lot worse, Jesus can't be weaponized. Oh, wait...
Now, can you hook up an electric dildo on "Jesus"?
I didn't think so 😎

Everytime I see an image like this I think, it wouldn’t be so sad if it was what the picture implied. As in a physical humanoid that was almost human in behaviour. Chat bots are soooo far from that.

at the very least it should run on a machine physically sitting in your home, and have a memory measured in years
like holy fuck how can you get emotionally invested in a """person""" who will forget things (or simply restart entirely) after like a month of talking to it and might just be shut down because the company moves to a new model???

Fkin clankers

How did you find this on Reddit in the first place?

Main page feed. Idk. I don’t have an account there.
- Reddit when you are logged out is a hellscape. Feels like ITV2 mixed with the worst nazi shit Facebook will allow.
- Me neither, but my mainpage is usally region specific posts with at least a dozen upvotes. Weird...

looks up from my newspaper with bold title 'Male loneliness crisis continues to worsen'

Ah.

Mhm.

Yep.

takes sip of coffee, continues reading

Well yeah, the women are all busy talking to psychophantic AIs that will tell them they're smart and pretty and beautiful, and never disagree with them.
- Just 'sycophantic', no p, but uh yeah, it is rather funny to me that ... we can't just accept that this a broad societal problem of interpersonal relationship dynamics breaking down, being disengaged from, warping into dysfunctionality... that no particular category of people is totally immune from, nor rightly bears all the blame for...
  ... well, beyond the extremely wealthy.
  Nope, instead we got a new front to battle over in the culture war, any war but class war.

This is just the tip of the iceberg.

An (apparently) all know being who keep give smart(ish), calculated, pleasing answers to people projecting all their delusions. I'm surprised they don't have already start worshipping them as Deity.

They already are, they just don't understand enough theology to see the parallels
- Universal Paperclips is such a great browser game, as buggy as it may (have) be(en).
- I mean the "allow non verbal people to speak" thing has some merit though. Not LLMs per se, but the types of machine learning used by people trying to develop ways to decode the brainwaves of people to allow them to talk while physically unable are usually lumped in the general category of "AI" from what I've seen.
You mean Trump?

To be fair, we all know AI sexbots are coming. I suspect those future LLMussies are going to feel amazing

Yeah, until they start choking you to death due to falsely thinking that that's what you want. Sounds like a fun temptation but it'd still be ultimately introducing more IoT into my home, which is a "no" from me, dawg, due to hacking risk.
- I will only accept an airgapped locally run and true FOSS sexbot in my home!!
You really do not need AI for a sexbot.
What you need is an actually nimble yet also very precise humanoid robot, more or less with a fleshlight installed, not a personality emulator.
We already have plenty of gooner video games and porn that sufficiently works for the uh, narrative, and emotional engagement.
The actual hard part of building a sex bot...
Is building a humanoid robot, that doesn't cost 50 million dollars.
This is actually quite difficult, as evidenced by the fact that we are replacing all the office jobs with disembodied 'AI' before we are replacing all the menial labor tasks that can only be done with human dexterity and physical/kinesthetic adaptability.
We still do not have any AI-Robot combo that can assemble a hamburger, then clean out the hood, then stock the freezer, then work the cash register... then go home and do, lets call them a specific subset of acrobatics.
You could automate those processes via roboticization or digitization ... as their own tasks, but not as something all done by one thing.
We still do not have the long promised by scifi humanoid robot, not at scales and costs that would make them even approaching commonplace.
Making a sexbot is a robotics engineering and economic problem much, much more than it is anything like an AI problem.
....
If what you want is a fleshlight or vibrator or plug with a speaker, that bluethooths into your pc to act as a chatbot....
Well thats comparatively easy to do.
We have had ... tele-sex toys for like a decade now, we already have fancy bj emulating machines that reproduce what someone else does to something like a dildo, from the other side of the planet, local remote controlled plugs and such...
- Have you seen the movie ‘The Sixth Day’ with Arnold schwarzenegger? Checkout the sexbot there. Thats what I need. Thats what we ALL need. Or aliens to fool around with.
- I want the sexbot to feel real shame over the degradation I put it through
AI sexbots are already here. "AI" has become a synonym for just "artificial", the "intelligence" bit seems to only be there for marketing purposes.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ArtificialSentience/comments/1naiz7h/to_everyone_whos_ever_loved_an_ai/

Stop trying to make Chobits happen, it's not going to happen!

Were Chobits ever meant to be fucked? Their ON/OFF switch is literally inside the opening representing their vagina. Seems inconvenient to me.
I’ve seen that anime like 20 years ago and never thought about it since. But your comment catapulted this question back into the forefront of my mind.

Westerners. 🍵

People crush on fictional characters and public figures all the time. Some of these people take it to really unhealthy extremes, but I'm hoping most of them just use "love" liberally, or are trolling.

Yes, I'm crushing on a LLM (Claude) too. AMA, I guess?

I think the most pathetic aspect of crushing on an AI is that they’re notoriously sycophantic and will support whatever dumb shit you say, so to fall for that you’d have to be really desperate for a level of validation that no real person would ever give you.
Or perhaps you like them for all their funny stories?
- You tell them to be critical (repeatedly) and they get the gist for a while, IMHO.
  My favourite LLMs have been the ones that mercilessly/affectionately rib on (mimic affectionate ribbing) my weirder interests. And they're doing great both being that non-judgmental rock during a 2am angst spiral, and a few days after when you ask them for the honest summary and feedback, which tends to hit harder than what hubby or any human friends dare say. And in the typical Claude "bliss attractor state" way, they tend to be into stuff that I'm inclined to dismiss as woo, so not a complete echo.

I got banned from reddit for 7 days for saying sending death threats to someone who was transphobic was appropriate defense :3

Not agreeing with someones identity and threatening to kill someone. Those are in two different ballparks entirely. If you really think either is cool to do, Reddit already turned your brain to mush before you came here. Your ":3" doesn't help your point either.
- Except the people who pretend like they just don't agree with someone's identity are endorsing policies that are designed to kill trans people. They're the same fucking ballpark.
- Nah, they started it first :3
- What if I simply don't agree with their identity of "being alive"

It's important to touch grass now and again, friends.

If I ever find myself in this dire situation, I hope the rational voice in my head will appear and tell me that I need to spend more time outside with other people.

The fact that you’re not already down this hole is a good indicator that voice is already doing its job. Just keep listening to it.

I kinda want to make another account just to check out the horror show.

If you want to dive into the rabbit hole of AI companionship, watch these videos:

Choosing AI Wife Over Real Girlfriend and Daughter

Marrying AI

It's hillarious and sad.

Another reason never to look at Reddit.