You don’t see articles like this about moms with two jobs who still manage to take care of their kids
You don’t see articles like this about moms with two jobs who still manage to take care of their kids
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I highly suspect he's full of shit, too. Most likely, he counts all kinds of non-work activities as work, because he does them in an executive-ly capacity. And, in general, claiming you're a hyper-optimised work machine is fashionable in Silicon Valley.
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You mean a lunch-business-meeting, a shit-business-meeting, a mastur... ok, I think I get the idea.
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You don’t see it about single fathers either. Why harp on a gender factor that isn’t relevant when the real issue is class and wealth disparity?
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You're getting hung up on the gender of a hypothetical person brought up as an example in this one instance, where I can't see why any result would be cause for consternation when, as you say, the focus here should be on the class factor.
I assume the example here was a poor woman in order to maximize juxtaposition of the example versus the subject matter of the cited article, which is about a rich dude. Whatever the reason, this seems irrelevant.
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You're the only person harping on gender.
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Absolute facts, men are often ignored in this situation, were expected to be strong and handle everything by ourselves like we aren't humans, someone's child tryna figure what to do in life. The real enemy of the world is the class war and if we could realise that wed realise we are the 99%
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he cant even sit through a movie without thinking about his $4.2 trillion tech giant
I'm so close to starting to feel sad for him
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It is a lie that CEO's publicize about themselves. He has two children. If he actually was working 7 days a week from the moment he woke up he would have never had a chance to get married and have children- which is the life his workers lead.
Musk used to brag about working 7 days a week one day, and the next day brag about how he never missed his children's soccer games.
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They don't understand the actual concept of working. They think taking a call once in a while while out at a soiree counts entirely as work time.
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“I had to sit through a 3 hour lunch at Nobu and a visit to a whorehouse with that dreadful bore Altman. What an exhausting 16 hour day.”
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Imagine workers would have that attitude…
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Musk brags about working 100-hour weeks ... while being the CEO of five companies. That means that at best being a CEO of one company is a 20-hour-a-week part time job.
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Most are sociopaths who definitely do not think about other people, so it's probably true that he does nothing else but think about the work. Eg Elon
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That's because his work is thinking about how much money he could be making, not actually producing anything substantial. Those days are long gone
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Here's something for your toolbox: our society commits idolatry constantly.
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Thinking about work is not the same as working. Maybe he should invest some money into therapy for his work anxiety.
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Maybe I can start building up savings if I work overtime by zoning out of movies and thinking about stocking the grocery store for half an hour...
Hell wait, if I just think about being Nvidia CEO, can I split Jensen's salary?
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Thinking about work is not the same as working
I mean that depends entirely on what your work is and what you mean by "thinking". As a designer/developer, just letting thoughts come and go without forcing it during off times is absolutely productive work that gives me a head start the next time I'm back at work "properly" again.
And as a CEO/business owner your job is making decisions for the most part, and thinking about those decisions should better be a big part of that
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Bud claims he’s “working” during his full waking hours. Nah, having a job where your decision making and planning is spread out throughout the day does not mean you’re working all the time.
No NVIDIA employee is going to buy that he’s continuously working while going to the movies, playing golf, hanging out with work buddies over lunch, etc. while they’re physically sitting at a desk working. Sure, there are pockets of work in there and productive things may happen, but he’s not working in the same sense his staff is.
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I didn't realise thinking about work was work.
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It's a sure sign that you have a shitty work life balance.
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I was at some work dinner and talked to some guy i didn't really know. He had a 2 year old child and said something like: "he knows that he and his wife work too much and they hardly see their child." I gave him a look like: "that's kinda sad." But i think he misinterpreted it and said: "oh don't worry, i'm not a guy who believes in WoRk LiFe BaLaNcE." Like he was so close to say, i'm not woke or a fag, don't worry.
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As a mechanical engineer I can't really turn it off. It's why I work yearly jobs and not hourly jobs. But it's a cool job where I make things, not human drama.
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More like a shitty definition of what counts as work.
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As a researcher, a good chunk of my work is literally just sitting on my ass and thinking. Or thinking while taking a walk in the park, or thinking while mindlessly chopping wood in a video game. Now with a kid, it's kind of switched to thinking about what to do for dinner, how I can get the chores done for the day or how to organize my time so that I can fit in a few hours of work. It's work in the sense that it's something that needs to be done and it has an energy cost to doing. It's also not really something you can turn off even if you wanted to.
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Lol nvidia CEO couldn't do my job for an hour.
I am absolutely confident that I could do his job for an hour.
The empty chair in his office does his job just as easily, too.
You can tell me all about the meetings and deals they have to worry about but ultimately, by the time a company gets that large, it could run itself without a c-suite for quite some time.
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Very large companies run themselves by inertia alone.... until the c-suite fucks it up trying to make more money.
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This must be the 10th time I comment this on Lemmy and you might already know this, but:
The reason a CEO gets paid what he gets paid is not because of the value he adds to the company (as you pointed out, anyone could do the job), but because when the company fucks up (whether due to his decisions, or those of the board, or just anything, really), he takes the fall so the company can keep on doing whatever shady shit they're doing and the board can act like they had no idea what was going on.
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Nvidia CEO couldn't do my job for an hour, and I work in tech
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I never even had a manager who could do my job, let alone a CEO.
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Hour to hour and day to day that's probably true. But, nVidia is actually an example of a company where their leadership made some smart decisions decades ago by understanding their market extremely well and correctly predicting what was going to be happening in the industry 5-10 years down the line. For example, he went all in on CUDA almost a decade before the AI went mainstream, and because of that decision, nVidia is the biggest company in the world today.
I would bet that if a major decision came up and you had to decide whether or not to go all in on X, you couldn't actually do his job.
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That sounds absolutely fucking miserable.
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Pathetic! Is this nvidio guy an amateur? i think about work while i SLEEP. i'm easily putting in 140+ hours PER WEEK. is this guy browsing tictac while on the shitter or what? get your numbers up lil bro, someday you'll make it big. i swear nobody wants to work anymore, bunch of entitled slackers
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Won't someone please think of the poor billionaires. :(
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Omg guys I'm so addicted to working! I just can't stop workinggggg I think I'm addicted with how much I workkkk! I'm just so exploitable ;)))
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Sounds like mental illness but its epic because money.
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My boss says he has not taken a day off in 6 years.
Posts pics of him on a boat fishing with our CRO on a Monday . . .
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Most CEOs are so useless, but their idea of "working" is just thinking about work and money all day but not actually doing anything.
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A lot of Natural Managerial types think pointing a finger and saying "Do That" is the same as actually doing it, and they take credit for it because their Natural Managerial skills made it happen, not the actual work.
This isn't just confined to workplace environments. Lots of people are like that in home/ family environments, relationships, friendships, etc.
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Well, you know, he talked to somebody for two seconds on his phone while on vacation. ;\
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Honestly the CEO behavior sounds like a mental illness.
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It honestly sounds like a really horrible life. I'd rather be a cleaner.
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That was my first thought. Why the fuck do ceos get a pass for making their mental shit everyone else's problem? When I do that, I get an expensive trip to the psych ward.
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It's also proof that there wouldn't be major negatives from a wealth tax. These guys love working, it's not about the money, they all say it. So, let them keep working, but give their earnings to people who need it.
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It is, by & large, mental illness. You've got people who exist well outside of the norm who help to make everything run. Doctors, firefighters, CEOs, just to name a few off the top of my head...I remember reading a whole list of occupations with higher rates of mental illness, psychopathy. And I thought yeah, that makes sense. These people are atypical in behavior, nature. That's what makes them better suited for the task.
Not all freaks are homeless on the street corner; this world runs on freaks. Innovates using freaks. We need freaks....carefully applied in their field, of course.
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Was there even an article to go with this headline, or do we just publish any off–hand remarks made by rich tech dudes now?
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We can now post this post to !mildlyinfuriating@lemmy.world
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The most upsetting part of this is how little time he spends fearing for his fucking life while his buddies’ news stations print articles like this.
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Cool I can't do that without thinking about my job either. Thinking about your job isn't work unless you fuckers want to start paying for it.
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Right. It's just a salary job. He's not special.
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If you’re in a position to walk away from almost anything you are doing at work and have someone else do it instead, and you’re still paid, it’s not work. If you are in this position, have family, and work 7 days a week, you have a self-regulation problem. See a fucking therapist.
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These are people that count a three hour business lunch as 'working' though. Also, I don't give a fuck about people choosing to work themselves to death. It's the ones that don't have a choice that I care about.
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These are people that count a three hour business lunch as 'working'
These people also get mad about people using their phone whilst at work. Define irony.
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"I don't give a fuck". ("I don't care it" OR "They can go to hell") ???
I believe bosses really "extract value" of employees (aka, they steal us)
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Both.
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He works so much, he doesn't even have time to find a new jacket. What a cringe lord.
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This guy?
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That's hilarious though ngl
But this man never needs to worry about anything anymore. I'd probably "work every day" knowing that I have the pleasure of stopping whenever I want, and having everything you could ever want right at your fingertips at any given moment.
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i like how its counted as work just thinking about work for him. but it only counts as work for his employees when they are online under the supervision of their manager.
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Online? They were probably forced back into office.
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Replace "4.2 trillion tech giant" with "the future of humanity" and that's basically me with depression.
TIL I'm the CEO of Worrying About the Sky Falling Inc. (because the sky really is about to fall lol)
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Username checks out
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What do you need to make it profitable?
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if you are in that position and still cant fucking stop, it's time to see a psychiatrist
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I mean I would probably categorise myself as a bit of a workaholic but even I'm not that dedicated.
What's he do on Sundays? You can never get anything done on Sundays even if you want to. Everybody else has a social life and is busy experiencing it, so they're not processing orders, or completing paperwork. Which by extension means there is sod you can do as well.
You may as well go outside.
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Imagine believing that just thinking about your job, equates to "working". Give me a break.
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You are not allowed to think while on your break, otherwise it isn't a break.
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he should work while he sleeps in order to come up with a better gpu that doesnt fuckin suck ass
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His company makes basically all of their money selling GPUs for AI. Gaming is an afterthought now.
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And by work they really mean “jerks off to his leather jacket collection”
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Working hard, or jerking hard?
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Working hat ⛑️
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That's the funniest statement I've read in a while. 😂
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Replace "$4.2 trillion tech giant" with "cocaine"
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All the cool kids are doing ketamine now. So much ketamine that their bladders shrink to the side of a thimble and develop lesions, such the urine seeps into their bladder wounds and their bodies balloon with piss.
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I'm sure he "works hard" like in that CEO workweek graph.
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If 20 hours of your 55 hour work week is "miscellaneous personal stuff", you have a 35 hour work week. 🤦🏻♂️
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And if 5 hours of your 35 hour work week are "business meals", you have a 30 hour work week.
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That image legit ticks me off.
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It is sooo obvious they were trying to pad out the work hours as much as possible so the graph wasn't "Yeah, CEO's work less than you (and get paid a thousand times more)"
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What a fucking idiot.
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Funny, sometimes I wake up in the night and think about work because I know people like this maintain my livelihood at their whim.
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His "work" is thinking in how to steal us (customers, employees, citizens). It's a shame these journalists romanticing it.
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isnt he a nepo-baby that loves trump.
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UwU
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No he doesn't. He pays someone to say he does.
And if he does (he doesn't), that's obviously terrible for every reason you already understand.
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This is anyone running a business and a limited juxtaposition. It does not mean he always slaves away at a job. It means he must always be available and always conscious and aware of the business. Anyone that has actually run a successful business with employees has experienced this. You're not your own boss, you're a slave of your customers with responsibilities, decisions, and must live with the consequences of making mistakes. It really sucks unless you're super lucky in the world, and a really shitty person if you want to make it profitable by hurting people and being unethical.
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I tried to pull this tactic to get a raise on my salary.
didn't work, if anything they reduced my raises thereafter.
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Worse: they don't point out how unhealthy it is to live this way and what terrible family life he must have.
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The message of the headline “so you should, too.”
The problem is that it’s a lie.
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lol success? Like like self abuse and self slavery.
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Guy sounds like an assbutt
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He also owns a significant portion of the company and makes millions when the stock price goes up.
An employee however makes a fixed income and may very likely be laid off after the next investors call to make that stock price go up.
Comparing the work ethic of a ceo and an employee is complete bullshit. By their own logic, a 1/1000th ownership in the company should in fact mean 1/1000th of the CEO’s work.
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Sounds like a man that is running from his demons
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These nutjobs will be on their deathbeds and think "I'm so glad I spent my life creating shareholder value"
Not
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He should get help
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Wow, cool life.
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c/NotTheOnion
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What’s infuriating is that having no work-life balance is promoted as a positive. Sure there are people who are really devoted to their work and thrive on it, but that should be seen as voluntary and not expected. Working long hours also doesn’t necessarily mean you are working efficiently or using your full potential the entire time.
It's meant to deify these CEOs. Gullible schmoes see this and think "well that makes sense, he spends every hour of his day working. That's three times more than me! No wonder he makes a million times my salary! See, the only reason I'm not making billions is because I don't have the divine skills and talent to work on my company all day." (Or, "I choose to have a work-life balance cause I don't mind making a little less money")
These CEOs have PR teams dedicated to slipping out stories like these so it keeps the CEO looking like a king.
Also to convince gullible idiots to put in more hours and make more sacrifices because "that's what it takes to make it to the top" not realizing that sacrificing your time and energy for a multi-billion dollar corporation won't make you a billionaire. Rich people love the "hustle and grind" culture because it convinces people that if they just keep producing for the machine, the trickle down will finally come
Ugh. People wasting company time by thinking about their health and welfare and if they can afford their bills. When they should be thinking about the company. Won't someone think of the profits. Theft. Theft all of it! Makes me so sick I have to take a mental health day away from checking my investments. /s /s /ssssssssss
Also, having no work-life balance is different if you own a significant fraction of the company vs. if you're on salary.
Like, if Jensen Huang spends 12 hours over the weekend working on something for nVidia and increases the share price by 0.01% (with a $4.165 trillion market cap, this means it goes up $416 million), his personal net worth will go up by $14.7m. Not bad for a little weekend work.
Let's assume that someone who is on salary is on something absurd like $1m per year and gets a 500% bonus for working overtime. Their 12 hours of weekend work is going to net them $28k. That's certainly nice, but it's about 1/500th of what Huang gets. And, your average engineer probably doesn't get overtime at all, and if they did it would be closer to $3k not $30k.
If someone who owns a business wants to have a bad work-life balance, that's one thing. But, it should never be expected of anybody who's just on salary.
Yes I understand that for some people out there, being a tech executive is their highest passion and true calling. But I hate it when those people turn around and expect everybody to act that way, and act like they’re just more virtuous for doing so. I have a very successful tech career but it’s a job, not my whole life. This society values money, so we keep asking rich people for life advice, as if they have tapped into something deeply human and universal. They haven’t.
And if its voluntary I would more likely categorize it as a hobby rather than work. I think we need a better definition for "work". Work, to me, is an obligation. People work in order to feed and house themselves. So let's says someone has $10mil. That is more than enough to easily live off the interest. I would say anyone at that level of wealth never actually works because they have the option to stop at any time, which in my mind makes it a hobby.
I think the Nvidia should get a life.i also agree 100%, if you are working every second of your waking hours then you are far from being efficient.