Netanyahu Says It’s Antisemitic For Israeli Soldiers To Describe Their Own Atrocities
Netanyahu Says It’s Antisemitic For Israeli Soldiers To Describe Their Own Atrocities
Wow, the "that's antisemitic" saying really is an all encompassing get out of jail free card.
It's a masterkey unlocking all doors now
I feel so bad for any Jewish people who don't support this shit. There's gonna be multiple generations of actual antisemitism spawned by Israel's actions and the fact that the American deep state is obsessed with supporting them.
And will Likud have cried wolf enough that people start to disregard antisemitism entirely?
It's just a common religious tactic. When they do bad things, they get angry at anyone who tried to call them out on it. Even if it's their own people, and they aren't doing it on purpose. Is the hate being supported by their religion? Yes? Then it's religious hate, and needs to be stopped.
Does it matter if it's one religion? Nope, they all do this shit. Radical christians, radical hindu, radical buddhists, etc... Call them out on their bullshit and hate, and you're the bigot. Well, fuck religion and the hate they all spew.
Well, fuck religion and the hate they all spew.
It's not really the religion though, basically all religions come with a set of believes in what is wrong and right and the hate-spewing war criminals will say it has to do with their religion, but they do not follow the believes set out by their religion. They are only using religion as a tool to gain power over the people that do follow the believes of that religion.
“It’s not really the religion…”
Explains how it is, in fact, religion.
You're right, of course. The real problem, as you pointed out, is religious states.
See also: the way the US has become increasingly brazen about its atrocities as the Evangelicals have sunk their tentacles deeper and deeper into our political system.
On the other hand, there have been Jewish states before modern Israel, and it always ended in tears. Maybe believing that you're God's chosen people inevitably causes you to act with an arrogance and belief in your own invincibilty that eventually causes your country to be destroyed. If you believe God literally wants you to have a piece of dirt, why practice good diplomacy and have good relations with your neighbors? Your only concern is keeping God happy. In the Old Testament, the Israelites suffered invasion only when they somehow let God down. With that as your cultural foundation, what does that do to your nation's foreign policy?
Part of me really is starting to wonder if giving folks who think they're God's special chosen people was a terrible mistake.
I'm not an expert in their religion but I doubt their religion says that committing genocide and all kinds of war crime atrocities is a good thing.
They’re Zionists, this is actually a core part of the end goals outlined in every Abrahamic religion, they are literally hoping to destroy all the non children of god and take over the world. We’re all just Canaanites to them if we’re not on their team.
I believe that in Judaism there is some traditions of interpretation which can justify the current situation. But it isn't a religion based on obedience as much as discussion so it isn't a matter of what is "said" as much as what is understood.
However much more relevant is the powerful and mainstream protestant Christian prophesies where the Rapture can be hastened by people taking certain steps, including having a jewish state in israel. (The jews, like most other people, will ultimately get horrifically exterminated during the Rapture, which is considered desirable to adherents.) Impatience for this Rapture is one of the reasons people and governments support Israel. American Christian groups provide way more funding and material support for Israel than jewish groups do.
This kind of shit is a carbon copy of how the Nazis used claims of people being "against the Aryan race" to deflect criticism of the actions of the Nazis.
I think this is religion being weaponized to support the extreme depravity of an ethno-Fascist ideology, rather than an inherent drive in that religion.
In other words, the problem with Religions is not them having an inherent tendency for this kind of thing, is that they are extremely easy to capture and use to support even the most depraved behaviours, being capable of excusing actions well beyond what most other prepackaged belief systems are able to successfully excuse.
In summary, I don't think Religion is a driver of this kind of shit, I think it's an enabler.
Hey, Israel is so super ethical. They one try on women's lingerie because it keeps them from getting shot. They only starve children because those children will become terrorist. They only shoot people seeking aid or food because they're seeking aid or food. What would you do if someone wanted water? Not shoot them? Are you insane?!
This comment is sarcasm. Fuck Israel and the IDF.
IDF just checking out the stats msfw
You, sir, are mentally deranged.
Probably more desperate than anything
No, you know what's anti-semitic? Defiling your ancestors by being a fucking genocidal Nazi.
It is actually impressive that the leader of Israel is the bad guy
When Israel was being founded in 1948 the UN sent a diplomat to help negotiate between the Palestinians and Israeli populations. He was a Swedish man who negotiated the release of over 30,000 prisoners from Nazi Germany in 1945. He was assassinated by Israeli Zionists.
Zionism is just weaponizing religion for the use by a government in my opinion. If that's how Zionists acted when they were formed, why should we expect different from Zionists there now.
The first pm of Israel was a genocidal terrorist. This is the status quo for states built on genocide.
Not at all. The genocide isn't new, it's built into the very fabric of modern Israel. https://www.theguardian.com/books/2001/may/31/londonreviewofbooks
Always been.
I always find it weird when I remember that Netanyahu is just some dude from Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.
Well I would argue Netanyahu is the head anti-semitist since by over using this word he has destroyed any weight that it carries. It now has effectively become a joke.
I think he’s antisemitic because he’s carrying atrocities against Semitic people. Arabs are Semitic people.
The real irony of all this is that the people being genocides right now in Gaza have a much closer genetic relationship to the actual human beings who wrote the Torah than those who are genociding them. We're watching the actual descendents of the ancient Israelites being exterminated right now.
Checkmate
Netanyahu says it's antisemitic
Learn a new trick, fuckface. This one doesn't work anymore. People are going to start responding to accusations like this with "so what?" because the word has been watered down to such a ridiculous degree that it is no longer meaningful.
And that's really dangerous because it provides cover for actual antisemitism against Jewish people.
It's all they have to hide behind.
Every day that word gets cheapened to the detriment of Jewish people everywhere.
It's so sinister. Latching on to the real history of blood libel to not only reinforce the idea that liberal media lies as a matter of routine, but to simultaneously use that reinforcement to build up the idea that liberals are either secretly antisemetic or too led around by the nose by propaganda to realize their antisemitism.
Of course it's deeply antisemitic for netanyahu to do this. It's also going to be extremely effective.
The religions throw around antisemitism like it's a catch phrase. Don't forget 'islamophobia'.
It's all just stealth blasphemy laws. "Don't talk bad about our hate religion, or you're a bad person". That's what blasphemy laws are, and they're illegal for good reasons.
Why the fuck you're doing a pointing game with the word 'antisemetic' is beyond me. Sounds like the typical christian "they're not real christians, only I am!!!"
islamaphobia dint really stick with people, anti-semitic has been around and established for decades of documented atrocities. islamaphobia is a very new concept has to do with extremely prejuidicial white people.
I think it actually trivializes the allegations made by the IDF solidiers because the substance of historical "blood libel" myths seem almost gentle by comparison of what is actually going on. Baking bread with the blood of the occasional child would hardly even be noticed among the on going horrific carnage.
All those liberals going along with the idea that it's possible to discriminate in a positive way only have themselves to blame when it turned out that their "positive" support of those they perceive as representatives of an ethnicity whom they (the liberals) view as "victims" as whole (i.e. all individuals of that ethnicity, rather than just the actual victims) was just racist prejudice and discrimination and stupidly easy to abuse to support ethnic cleansing (as long as those doing the murdering are from a "victim" race).
Support for any kind of ethnic-wide assumptions about people and different standards of judgement and actions towards them based on their ethnicity, is the very same kind of view of one's fellow human beings as the Nazis had, just with different "good" races and "bad" races.
People should be judged on and treated based on what they support and what they do, not the ethnicity they were born into.
As a wise man once said: Never get high on your own supply.
Why are none of these evil dictators just dying of a heart attack already?!? Let's gooo!
Because there is no god.
If there was a god, the "chosen people" wouldn't need an Iron Dome, just clasped hands, and they certainly wouldn't need hospitals paid on the American dime.
The loudest proponents of faith always need some kind of non-faith based material resource, strangely enough.
certainly no death note that's for sure
Or maybe there is one and it just really fucking hates us, but we'll likely never know.
they are like zionist version of oprah: you're anti-semetic, you;re antisemitc, everbody is anti-semitic.
Holocaust admission AND Holocaust denial have now both been deemed antisemitic by the ethno-Fascist nation state that claims to represent all Jewish People.
Someone needs to ask Netanyahu what he thinks antisemitic means
if he was forced to define it, it would probably be something like "anything or anyone that disagrees with Bibi being in power forever".
I think I get where you're going, but don't even go there. Nothing could ever justify any genocide; not the Holocaust, and not the Gaza one. The idea that anything could is frankly, grotesque.
I get what you're trying to say but let's not go down that path. Genocide isn't justified no matter the circumstances.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionist_antisemitism
Zionist antisemitism or antisemitic Zionism refers to a phenomenon in which antisemites express support for Zionism and the State of Israel. In some cases, this support may be promoted for explicitly antisemitic reasons. Historically, this type of antisemitism has been most notable among Christian Zionists, who may perpetrate religious antisemitism while being outspoken in their support for Jewish sovereignty in Israel due to their interpretation of Christian eschatology. Similarly, people who identify with the political far-right, particularly in Europe and the United States, may support the Zionist movement because they seek to expel Jews from their countries and see Zionism as the least complicated method (vis-à-vis ethnic cleansing or genocide) of achieving this goal and satisfying their racial antisemitism.
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The French-Jewish journalist Alain Gresh noted that the antisemitic right-wing politician and Nazi collaborator Xavier Vallat said that "Jews would never integrate into France and that they had to go to Israel.
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The historian David N. Myers wrote that "Leading white nationalists such as Richard Spencer and Jared Taylor liken their movement to Zionism, seeing it as a model for the kind of monoethnic purity they favor in [the United States]." Myers states that the "combination of pro-Israel and antisemitic sensibilities" is common within American politics due to the combined influences of the "Christian evangelical Right with its end-game theology", "archly conservative" Catholics, and the political ideology of Donald Trump.
If you generalize the stance away from Jews, "foreigners should go back to their home countries" is a very popular talking point for right-wing politicians, right-wing extremists and nazis.
So it's quite beyond me that anyone would be surprised that they apply the exact same argument to Jews as they use for pretty much every other minority that has a country that they can send them back to.
I feel guilty for laughing.
Only if you believe the racist idea that a nation, any nation, can represent everybody who is part of an ethnicity, i.e. and specifically in this case, that Mathematically the group "Jewish People" and the group "Israel and its supporters" are exactly the same group.
If however the group "Israel and it's supporters" is but a subset of the group "Jewish People", then the actions of the subset of the larger group do not justify punishing the wider group, same as, say, the actions of the Ku-Klux-Klan do not justify punishing everbody who is deemed White or the actions of ISIS do not justify punishing everybody who is Muslim.
I think the idea that the actions or victimization of some who are part of a broader group defined by nothing else than the ethnicity they were born into justifies a different treatment of everybody of the broader ethnic group, is THE most common racist trope there is, to the point that even liberals defend that shit (whilst, with zero irony or self awareness, calling it "positive").
No. Collective punishment is a crime.
What a cancerous sore.
He's really milking it...
Kinda reminds me of Stalin. That too was a man driven by hate.
I was getting a little more Khrushchev
Could very well be. Won't say i know better. Might even be a lot of both...
I really wish genociders would stop calling criticism of genocide "antisemitism". it just nullifies the impact of the word. also as I have said many times before, Palestinians are semites
He's such a shit stain towards Jews. He's devaluing the word which is dangerous given he's already done so much to make Jewish people unsafe around the world
The rise of anti-Semitism is for the most part due to his actions post October 6th.
Fuck him. My kids did not fear their half-Jewish heritage. Now they do. What is he doing for Jewish people again?
You wouldn't know he was a gymnastics expert by looking at him.
I'm waiting for the day where he says reading the Torah is antisemitic.
Like many evangelicals have done with the depiction of Jesus in the Bible.
How long before we reach the "saying antisemitic is antisemitic" endgame?
at this point I wish I owned a crutch factory that produced outstanding crutches. I would make a killing selling them to Israelis.
And these fuck sticks are all surprised pikachu face that anti-semitism is on the rise world wide. Hell even here in Canada you have people spray painting Jewish schools, businesses, and what have you. The largest Jewish school here in Toronto has 24/7 police presence they even have a damn SWAT Truck parked outside the school. But as soon as a Pro Palestine protest happens in Toronto oh boy is the Jewish community quick to condemn it and then act surprised when people tell them to fuck off.
And yes I'm well aware that not all Jewish people support what Israel is doing but it gets drowned out by those that would love nothing more than to wipe the Palestine people off the face of the earth and claim their land.
And it's not like these people learned nothing from the Holocaust, oh no dear reader they learned plenty. They learned how to commit genocide and use those that were murdered in the Holocaust as props to proudly say "it's our turn now."
they are not shocked about antisemitism, antisemitism is the goal of Zionism because it gives them pretext to do what they want
War Crime Benji is concerned the truth casts shade on Israel ?
And he calls it anti semetic?
Maybe syphilis is affecting the language centers of his brain, because he seems to have no understanding of that word.
Can we make hoarding wealth anti semetic, too? Or bribery of politicians? No? Then let's stop throwing this shit around like it has the same meaning anymore. The calls are from inside the house.
"Zionism: you made your mum live inside the washing machine and she got dizzy from the spinning which made her vomit and you point at that vomit and call it antisemitism"
... from "Mum Does The Washing" by Joshua Idehen.
That shtick got old long ago already.
So does Destiny! They should hang out.
That is actually flat out antisemitic and racist
I spilled my milk and was enraged by the anti-semitism.
His very existence is anti-Semitic. Hope he gets gaddafied eventually.
I'd prefer a Mussolini treatment, as that describes him more accurately: a fascist.
Gaddafi was actually a socialist, as far as I recall.
Yea but Mussolini didn't get somodized before death, that's more what I want. Going in dry with the barrel of guns gonna suck
Antisemitic has lost all meaning when it just serves to perpetuate genocide.
They should publish a static list of all things anti-semitic because it seems confusing.
Alright, I spent a bit too long on this so I may as well post it somewhere.
Miles is Antisemitic
That's Bloodlust... They're ORCS!
How long until he says it's antisemitic to vote against him