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  • 50 years... which is peanuts in historical terms. There's a reason post-colonial states almost uniformly suffer from weak economies and poor and corrupt governance. Overthrowing an already entrenched ruling class is a generations-long affair.

  • is just blind to what has happened to the US government.

    At the risk of being that guy, it's not what has happened to the US government, but what the US government has always been. Like, rich men getting off scot-free for diddling kids (and other crimes against ordinary people) didn't start with Trump; the Epstein files didn't become a thing under Trump. America has always been a country by and for rich men.

  • People aren't nearly as "axiomatically opposed" to anything as you think they are.

    As history shows, quite a few people will hold onto their flawed worldviews even as everything around them falls apart. It's entirely plausible for an organization to fail to adapt to changing circumstances and fail miserably at its purpose; it happens all the time.

    If your organization is already taking direct action (protests, strikes, sit ins, peaceful civil disobedience) then your tactics will naturally escalate as the government becomes more authoritarian.

    Sure, that's fair, but that only holds if we're talking about direct action. Direct action and electoral politics are fundamentally different courses, and there's no guarantee that the latter will escalate into the former. My point is: If you'll organize, you have to organize around direct action, not elections. Also just in case, protests only count as direct action when they meaningfully obstruct power; otherwise they're just parades.

    Those are powerful tools, don't get me wrong, but not so powerful that they're invincible.

    True, but what I'm getting at is: What will happen if/when they lose their majority in either house in the midterms? Will they just turn over power? And risk being held accountable for their crimes? Will Trump allow himself to lose his only shot at becoming a fascist dictator? No, they'll launch a coup and worry about the details later. I think we've seen too many Sieg Heils for "it can't happen here" to still hold water. They'll launch their coup and there's frankly very little in America that can stop them right now. Hence, it'll be up to popular grassroots resistance to do something about it, and the work to make sure such resistance exists starts now, not after the coup is already a done deal. Also, you know, ICE is still kidnapping people off the street and someone also needs to do something about that.

  • If you have enough people in your corner to win an election, you have enough people to blow up a bridge.

    Not if your organization's membership (and, perhaps more importantly, leadership) is stacked with people who are axiomatically opposed to blowing up bridges. If you intend to blow up bridges in the future, the work on that starts now, not when elections inevitably fail.

    If they won't hold a fair election, make them.

    Sure, but you can only make them while they're vulnerable (aka right now). It's notoriously hard to make autocrats hold elections after they've successfully abolished them. MAGAts know they'll lose control of Congress in the midterms, so their only hope is to overthrow democracy by January 2027. Do you understand what this means? By the time you're voting for your "candidates who will fight for us" it will already be too late, and by that point "making them" will be easier said than done.

  • Hollow Knight @lemmy.world

    What's the most stupid way you lost a steel soul run in either game?

    Not The Onion @lemmy.world

    Nobel committee unable to reach prize winner who is ‘living his best life’ hiking off grid

    Leopards Ate My Face @lemmy.world

    Federal Bureau of Prisons moves to end union protections for its workers

    Not The Onion @lemmy.world

    Israel formally states it did not kill Charlie Kirk

    [Dormant] moved to !tankiejerk@piefed.social @lemmy.world

    I guess it doesn't count when it's proletarian communist mass murder and slavery

    Dad Jokes @lemmy.world

    Which Christian ethnic group is most likely to work in law enforcement?

    Arabs | عرب @lemmy.dbzer0.com

    Y'all need a break from the bad news, here's a meme

    [Dormant] moved to !historymemes@piefed.social @lemmy.world

    The Enrage would be super enraged if they learned about this

    Flippanarchy @lemmy.dbzer0.com

    The Enrage would be super enraged if they learned about this

    Lefty Memes @lemmy.dbzer0.com

    The Enrage would be super enraged if they learned about this

    The Democratic National Convention™ of Libjerk @lemmy.dbzer0.com

    We did it, Patrick, we saved democracy!

    Political Memes @lemmy.world

    We did it, Patrick, we saved democracy!

    Lefty Memes @lemmy.dbzer0.com

    We did it, Patrick, we saved democracy!

    Flippanarchy @lemmy.dbzer0.com

    We did it, Patrick, we saved democracy!

    [Dormant] moved to !tankiejerk@piefed.social @lemmy.world

    Starting to get why the tankie triad is often defederated.

    Political Memes @lemmy.world

    Some people can't appreciate the wonderful things comrade Stalin did for... checks notes himself.

    Flippanarchy @lemmy.dbzer0.com

    It's proletarian communist exploitation though, so it's okay

    Ye Power Trippin' Bastards @lemmy.dbzer0.com

    Wanted to post the bottom one only but struck gold (shit???).

    Political Memes @lemmy.world

    Screw Trump, but breaking the US-Europe alliance is quite the accomplishment

    Lefty Memes @lemmy.dbzer0.com

    Just in case, the trust being busted here is the US-Europe imperial alliance.