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Hell, given everything we know about the Yemeni Civil War and the War on Terror, millions sounds about right.

Uh... what exactly is Obama being "framed" for here?

You're being downvoted due to being aggressive for no reason.

it’s just that the EFF for instance can’t compete with Google.

Exactly. Bad causes are so overrepresented in lobbying because lobbying as a concept is authoritarian, even if it can be occasionally used for good.

https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/gaza-authorities-accuse-israel-of-stealing-organs-from-released-palestinian-bodies/3719641

I thought this was common knowledge around here, but sure. If you only want the numbers, there.

This point is overdone, but Americans spend more than other developed countries on healthcare, so it's not even an austerity thing.

I'm not a fan of screaming at walls so I won't write a wall of text (pun not intended), but Obama's healthcare policy was literally written by the Heritage Foundation. Yes, the Project 2025 Heritage Foundation. Obamacare is literally Romneycare. Dwell on that for a bit.

How the heck does that contradict anything I said?

Literally most ghoulish thing I've read today. How do you even sleep at night?

Obama's role in the war on terror is a lot bigger than just his drone policy, but it's also unclear how many human lives his decision to, say, continue the war in Afghanistan and drag his feet on Iraqi withdrawal cost, so like I said I'd need to see a good argument before I took a serious position on this. To be clear, though, we're still talking hundreds of thousands minimum here due to his role in the Yemeni and Libyan civil wars.

Love me some shitlib slander.

I'd respond to your points, but the way you speak makes me confident that our values are too different (read: your values are too disgusting). I'm sure you wouldn't be saying that if you had family among those "few people" Obama killed.

In comparison to that, I'd say Obama delivered on the hope and change.

That's not how that works. Either he delivered on hope and change or he didn't; there's no "in comparison."

but why are people still talking about him at all?

Because libs will gladly lap up/force on everyone else another Obama (see how they talk about Newsom). It's important to remember the failures of the past so that when corporate lizards and their party hacks pretend another establishment liberal will change things they're not taken seriously.

We need to be looking forward

This "looking forward" schtick only means that known bad faith actors can keep influencing politics. It's simply a bad idea.

Obama would be in the correct direction.

Absolutely not. Obama was and remains an establishment stooge whose job is to stifle progress wherever it can be found. Obama rode a wave of progressive resurgence and killed it; he shares only slightly less of the blame for the current situation than people like Bush and Reagan. Incremental change through the likes of Obama is a myth built on the assumption that reactionaries won't reverse every bit of change made and more.

The war on terror is estimated to have killed a little under 5 million, and it's not the only evil murderous thing Obama has done or furthered, so arguably he has killed millions, though I'd need to see a good argument for it before I accept it as anything other than a meme.

Because why not? Seriously that's it.

You're being downvoted because The Independent is a news outlet, not a country.

Just checked and I've got 24 tabs open right now. Basically in my case I have a list of things I'd want to do at any given moment (chat on Whatsapp, watch anime, learn Chinese, etc), so each one gets its own tab group with things I'd usually want for the thing in question easily accessible. For example in my anime tab group I have My Anime List, two tabs with different anime and Reddit discussion threads. Also in my defense I'm looking for an oven right now so that's inflating my tab numbers a little.

Yeah that's fair, though I do have to note that other than Yom Kippur in none of Israel's past conflicts was it seriously outnumbered. That's the image they like to sell, and intuitively it feels like it should be true, but it's really not. Israel has always been good at raising massive armies relative to their population, and for instance surprisingly way outnumbered their enemies in 1948. Again not contesting your point; I agree that they were much more competent in the past.

Not disagreeing, but "at this point" implies they were ever anything else.