No words

I'll just leave this here. Took this shot of my car a few years ago.

Why does it remind me of this two
Ugh, that reminds me - just a few weeks ago, I ended up next to this monstrosity:
- With it being that high up off the ground, using the truck bed for any actual purpose is going to be difficult, unless you have an actual semitruck loading bay in your back yard.
- perfect working height for unscrewing part of the diff
I like your car
- Thanks!
It literally looks like you could just drive under that fucking monstrosity lmao
- just wait for the cars to get even bigger and you can just cut through traffic by driving under them
- the upsetting part is that the body would fit under and the windscreen and above - the fragile parts - would get hit by the bulk of the truck… cars are made to crumple on their noses etc - nasty gore scenes ensue
- It's a temptation every Miata owner faces.
I'll add to this too, taken a while ago of my old car in an Australian shopping mall, and Nissan Patrols aren't even the most egregious here.
- Before I read your comment, my stoned, dumb ass was wondering what the arrow was supposed to be pointing at.

I'd much rather drive the Miata. There's a reason that when I was forced to purchase a car after almost 20 years without one, I opted for a Miini Cooper. Sure, they're cute, but I was ecstatic to look it up and find it was only about an inch larger than my first car, a 1983 Renault Alliance MT.

Small cars rule.

Smart car here :-D
I miss my mini. With the rear seats folded down, it had a surprising amount of cargo capacity.

The shift to these ridiculously large trucks is partially consequent of the poorly-implemented Obama fuel economy regulations. The regulations were determined by wheelbase and tread width, which disincentivized manufacturers from making mid- or small-sized trucks. The bigger they made them, the less restricted they were by fuel economy. Larger vehicles also ease constraints on engineers; they don't have to struggle fitting a lot into a small body. Once large trucks became the default offering, they morphed into the annoying cultural "status" symbol we know today.

Anyway I have a Miata MX-5 and I love my tiny car.

The CAFE act caused most of these changes and was signed by Clinton in the early '90s. Obama may have made things worse, but the roots of the problem go back much further
- CAFE standards date to 1975
I also love your tiny car, even when I see one from behind the wheel of my slightly less tiny Civic, which I adore.

Say it with me folks!

Miata
\ Is
\ Always
\ The
\ Answer!

except for the one I saw today with the wheels tilted so only the inner edge of the tire touches the ground
- No no, Miata is always the answer. Clearly, Miata is in that case answering the question “how do I look like a bellend without spending too much money, and clearly communicate that while I understand mechanics, I probably shouldn’t”.
- I would consider anything “slammed” no longer viable as a vehicle since they can’t clear a speed bump. I don’t even think they should be road legal because your reaction distance dramatically increases with those setups.

The big one should not be legal.

The big one is a work truck and should not be driven as a commuter. It really shouldn't be allowed on roads where cargo trucks aren't allowed.
- Even as a work truck it's comically large. You can get the same amount of cargo space in a far smaller vehicle, this one's only advantage would be the sheer horsepower which you only need for very specific work.

"It's the only thing that makes me feel significant in a society that I struggle to understand" - Large truck owners (if they were literate)

Emotional support truck vs. Sports car

I mean, a Miata is a good car, but a hatchback seats a family and gets the groceries.

I traded my minivan in for a civic hatchback. It easily does 99.99% of what I need a vehicle to do. For that last 0.01% of the time I rent a truck for $50. I save money and my car fits in the garage.
- Exactly! I live in the suburbs, where every driveway seems to have a massive full size truck (because they barely fit in the garage)--and also, where I am 15 minutes away from at least 3 places where you can rent a pickup for like 5% of the monthly payment on one of those beasts.
Hatchback gang rise up
(2019 Bolt EV)

I miss mini-trucks. Compact size cab with full size bed, engine from a sedan and 4wd. Good economy, much cheaper, great utility, better handling, less dead children, and a lot more fun out on the trails.

~~Caustic masculinity~~ fear of smol pp ruins everything.

I strongly agree. One thing to add to your list: easily being able to lift things in and out of the bed, even from the side.
It's just marketing. Australia shares a lot of American culture and we still have car based utes, though larger vehicles are also becoming popular here
- The amount of times I've looked at the Aussie and Japanese markets and just sat jealous...
I used to work with a guy who had a Tachoma that he loved and he only used it for offroading. He kept a pair of spare axles in the bed to swap out on the trail if he snapped one.

I mean these are also two different types of cars. But it is actually so weird to see even two cars of the same type made in different times next to each other. It’s like somebody messed with the scale slider in the level editor. It’s uncanny.

- I don't want to defend the overly supersized truck too much, but I do want to point out that even these are two different class of vehicles. Sure, you can cram 4 smallish people into that old Ford Ranger, but nobody is going to be comfortable or happy about it. Also, that small ranger has far less cargo and towing capacity.
  Of course, a good chunk of truck owners do not need that much capacity and big trucks are just a toy/status symbol to them. Which is stupid. But there are use cases where those trucks are actually needed, and a small Ford Ranger won't cut it.
  That said, I do wish we could get more small pickup trucks again. The maverick is a good start.
- in australia, i make sure to kick and dent every yank tank i see. its not often - we have more of the smaller pickups (though we call them utes)

Checkmate

🎵 12 yards long, 2 lanes wide 🎵

65 tonnes of American pride!

If you need to explain to Trump why many american cars do not sell well in Europe just show him this image. Chances that he'll get it is higher than zero at least.

I cannot imaging driving around this hulk of a car all day. How would I even find parking space?

I think looking for a parking space in what is, effectively, a lorry - is a bit of a waste of energy. It will only fit into >=4 spots anyway, might as well just stop wherever you need. You'll be a hated by everyone anyway.
Not taking a piss - are they legal in EU to drive on a B cat license?

Baby, I may have micropenis, but my monster truck will vibrate enough to make you orgasm!!!
\ Some time later, the woman breaks up with the dude and starts a relationship with the truck

I've tried to get in a Miata once. Had to put the top down and my eye level was over the windshield.

I'm 6'4" and fit in my 19 just fine, I have MAYBE an inch of head room left with the top up. Now the solstice I tried to get on? No fucking way. Was it an NA?
Edit: sweet reference on the handle.
- Are we still doing phrasing?
- I'm 6', but I have a comparatively long torso, so I generally have the seat set as low as possible in a sedan to be at a comfortable height, and even then, my head nearly touches the ceiling. Life before height-adjustable seats was interesting.
6'2 and owned a smart for years.
- 6'2 and I lay down and sleep in my smart during my lunch break.
I'm 6'4" and have driven tons of cars and owned a few. Stepping into a proper pickup was the first time I thought "oh, a vehicle designed for me." I'm also a carpenter, so it is essential to my work. Memes like this are low hanging fruit.
Yes, we do have a size problem in the USA. Is everyone that drives one of these trucks a selfish, tiny-dicked, backwards-thinking asshole? No, and honestly, the majority of the people that I know are like me and need a work vehicle like this. More than half of them are in a union. We can point out the absurdity of the size wars when it comes to American vehicle design, but stop picking on pickup trucks.
- I'm 6'4" as well and I fit in just about everything that's not clearly a compact car. I fit fairly well in Honda and Toyota sedans, and drove a Civic until 2018, when I bought a Tesla Model 3. That was okay, I fit but it's low, too low for my tall legs really getting in and out Traded that in recently and got a Polestar 3, which is a larger SUV.
  Big work vehicles aren't the issue, as long as they're used for that purpose, it's the pavement princesses that are the problem. The ones that rarely or possibly even have never seen a day or work. They're all over the place.
  There are a lot of owners of these pickups that use them as their primary vehicle and grocery getter. Then they try to justify needing the truck because of the two days a year they actually use the bed to bring something back from Home Depot or towing a trailer. Both of which have daily alternatives available either through a rental company or from the store itself.
- I'm 6'4 and easily fit in my mx-5. And you know for a fact at least 90% of those trucks are grocery getters "because I like to drive up high, it makes me feel safer, and more of a shitbag"
- Plenty of tall people drive small cars. Can't you just use a smaller truck?
- Amen.
My problem is usually width. Most vehicles aren't built for anyone physically wider than average (while yes, i am also overweight, id still have this problem no matter what). Some office chairs give me hip pain, and most armrests can't be adjusted out far enough to not be digging into my ribs.
There's also just nowhere for my left leg to comfortably go in an automatic, at least with a manual i had the clutch to keep that leg moving.
“Everyone needs to drive a vehicle, even the very tall.”

I was in Rome last week and pleasantly surprised to see how many tiny cars they use.

There were plenty of Smart cars, but also many other ultra minis like Citroën AMI, XEV Yo-Yo and Renault Twizy.

They're not just concept cars or used as gimmicks like elsewhere. People actually use them for their daily business.

The traffic in Rome is insane though. The reason they use tiny cars isn't that the roads are small, but due to congestion and parking. It makes very little sense to own a car there at all.

It makes sense for Rome though, these cars are expensive and appeal to the fashion sensibilities of the population there, rather than just using the good public transport there. It's a signal of wealth, rather than an actual functional commodity.
I found this out the hard way the last time I expressed my love of the AMI
i live in malta and got an xev yoyo amonths ago today. It's my daily driver.
For those that haven't seen a Citroën AMI:
https://www.carsized.com/en/cars/compare/citroen-ami-2020-2-door-coupe-vs-mazda-mx-5-1989-roadster/

now a chart of how many kids each of these has killed in an accident

Thanks Obama

Here in Alberta, young men hatch out of their eggs with a mullet on their head and the keys to a Ram in their hand. It's basically a social pressure at this point.

But I need my insanely large blacked out, lifted, with black rims, f-250. I have to get 3 bags of groceries.

Of course off-road capabilities are required. How else would I drive on nicely paved suburban roads?
- Just always gotta be prepared for the one day a year snow stays on the ground. Even in June.
- Guess what destroys offroad performance though?
  An insanely long wheelbase coupled with a top heavy design....

the "i don't need a big car, my dick is big enough" bumper sticker needs to make a comeback.

Because body shaming is the best retort we have?
- Yeah fuck 'em. The venn diagram between those drivers and MAGA snowflakes is almost a circle. Shaming the one thing they hold dear to their mental stability is the least I can do to fascists.

I live this image on the daily, in a Midwestern hell full of giant trucks. Probably 5% of those people also have lift kits, and far too many people have modified them to roll coal.

Back when I had my WRX, I had my infant son in the car. I get on the on ramp and enter the highway. Some asshole in the next lane decides to fuck with the little Subaru and blast thick black smoke all over the highway, so I gun it to get through and past and he does as well. I see the passenger sticking his dumb cunt fucking face out of the window and snickering and I just reacted and as I was flying past I whip and empty frappucino bottle at him, dude caught it with his forehead and I was gone.

I later regretted not just taking the license plate and just calling the cops but then... Hopefully that started a fight between the two.

I have a '73 Porsche 914 I restored. Same size as a Miata. Better mileage, too. I've owned one new car in my life. I'll never buy another.

I'm pretty sure the scales are different. Look at the door handles: regardless of the size of the vehicle, anything that interact with human beings should be roughly the same scale and the door handles just aren't.

Not to say that American trucks aren't ridiculously oversized of course, but that photo looks doctored to me.

Miata door handles are built for a finger or fingers and not a whole hand. The scale is correct.
- Well, I'm an avid cyclist and left the US 25 years ago, and if that's really the kind of behemoth that roams the streets in the US today, I'm glad I did.
Based on measuring the images, they seem about right. The F-250 is the full width of the image (1,002 px). The MX-5 is 605 px, so just over 60% of the length of the F-250. If we do the same maths with the lengths provided in the image (6.35 m and 3.95 m) we get 62%. If the scale is wrong it's by a pretty negligible amount
Regarding the door handles, the MX-5's door handles aren't made for hands. Their hinge is parallel to the actual door hinge and they're made to be used with one finger instead of a whole hand, so while you were right to notice the difference it's actually because the MX-5's door handles really are very unusually small
You can check it yourself here
https://www.carsized.com/en/cars/compare/mazda-mx-5-1989-roadster-vs-ford-f-250-2023-4-door-pickup-crew-cab/
And compared to my current car
Size seems accurate.
The whole point of that site is to compare sizes of cars. Plug in whatever you want to compare: https://www.carsized.com/en/cars/compare/mazda-mx-5-1989-roadster-vs-ford-f-250-2023-4-door-pickup-crew-cab/
- Can't believe I had to scroll to the bottom to find a link, and it's not even a top level comment...
  Thank you for this. Gonna compare my 350Z Roadster to a NA Miata. (edit: Never mind lol, it's not even on the website. They have the 370Z, though...)

Geez, how much compensating do they need?!? Is it that bad? Like, button-mushroom size?

The Miata sold well because it was cheaper than an Alpha Romero. Unfortunately, everyone came to realize it would be in the shop exactly as often, practically negating any benefit.

In what world? The Miata is ridiculously reliable until you start ignorantly modifying it.
- Well, I live on earth. I can’t speak to whatever planet you’re from.
Funny that, with the exception of the first two model year Miatas needing an updated crank pulley, when you drive it like a normal person, they're one of the most reliable cars out there, with the fewest problems.
Now Alfa Romeo, they're great cars to drive, but... well, you're not truly an auto enthusiat until you've daily'ed an Alfa and suffered through all the problems and failures, to have that brief moment of perfection when driving.

Thought I had stumbled into a vore / feeder comm for a moment.

Up to this day they correct their street name to be Little Richard.

Can you put a Beetle or Smart onto the back of the cancer?

Are red & blue lines under the pic are the calibrated references, whilst the car pics are not?

i just want a 97 Tacoma again

Fuck you, Ford!!

If anybody wants to come burn mine...