Poland urges Tesla boycott after Musk’s call to ‘move past’ Nazi guilt
Poland urges Tesla boycott after Musk’s call to ‘move past’ Nazi guilt
Summary
Polish Tourism Minister Sławomir Nitras has called for a Tesla boycott following Elon Musk’s remarks urging Germany to “move past” its Nazi history.
Musk’s comments, made during a far-right AfD campaign event, sparked outrage, particularly in Poland, which lost 6 million people in WWII.
The controversy comes ahead of Germany’s February 23 election and just before Musk’s Tesla earnings call.
As a key advisor to Trump, Musk’s stance could impact Tesla’s market position in Europe, where historical remembrance remains a sensitive issue.
Notice how slowly step by little step extremists are pushing their agenda on the world.
But wait, they say it's the gays and the Jews are the ones with the agenda??
Poland of all countries...
I'm convinced Elon's final act will be running over minorities in a Cybertruck while strung out on Ketamine.
Just ban Tesla, X and everything else owned by Elon Musk
Yeah, fuck Elon
"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."
Those who do remember the past intentionally repeat it because they are fucking Nazis.
The Swedish strike is still ongoing. The German protest against their factory is still ongoing. The cyber truck can never be approved for use on roads in all of Europe. Every fourth Tesla fails the first EU-inspection. The average for all cars is 3%, so it's exceptionally bad.
I don't think a boycott is even necessary. There are enough reasons not to buy a Tesla.
It might not be necessary to stop him from selling cars in the EU, but the symbolism of it would be fantastic.
Every fourth Tesla fails the first EU-inspection. The average for all cars is 3%, so it's exceptionally bad.
I also wouldn't buy a car from that freak for various reasons but that high failure rate at the first inspection can be at least partly explained. Tesla - unlike most manufacturers - doesn't do regular inspections on their own. Most cars are checked (and repaired!) by the dealership before they get officially checked. Therefore, the 25% aren't completely comparable to the 3%.
The only way for Germany to move past its Nazi history is not to forget it but to learn from it. For Germany to truly move past its guilt it must:
- Ban the AfD (they're in the process) and ensure Europe is free of fascists
- Guide Europe toward a bright free future (they are doing this)
- Protect Europe from its threats and ensure no nation will ever devisate it again (they're in the process, hopefully they can establish a federal European military)
Instead of,learning from it, the guilt from it means they support genocide in Palestine, while those in the far right want to relive it. Germanys economy is not going great, which leads to more unrest.
How can Germany force other European nations not to elect fascist parties?
As an aside, I love the irony of that speech. Musk tells the wannabe Nazis that they can forget about the sins of their (great)grandparents.
The idiots of the AFD want to forget the past simply so they can repeat it.
They want to repeat the sins of their forefathers, they just don't want to be reminded of the consequences that followed.
Still grandparents in a lot of cases. I’m 40 and my grandfather fought the Japanese in WWII.
Plenty of people left on this planet who had grandparents on every side of that war.
Or maybe your parentheses was meant to cover both.
Yeah it was.
Fuck it. I typed it. Maybe some other idiot will read it wrong.
I somewhat disagree. They don't want to forget, they want to finish the job. They have immense pride in something they should feel shame for. That, I think, is the issue. The unwillingness to feel shame, so they replace that feeling with over-zealous pride.
When history teaches you to not do whatever the fuck you're about to do, forget the history.
He wants them to put aside their past guilt so they can focus on the hypothetical future guilt
I had the same question with Trump copying so many of his political plays from 1930s Germany… does he… does he know how the story ended?
He thinks Hitlers generals were loyal so... Nope. Seriously even the Wehrmacht foot soldiers turned on the Nazis in the end openly attacking the SS.
As a Pole: Its funny to see hoe people in Poland is viewed by other countries vs how its actually viewed.
- Soon government starts program of subsidizing buying new EVs. Teslas are not excluded. Its basically poor financing rich's new cars.
https://www.gov.pl/web/nfosigw/program-naszeauto-do-40-tys-zl-doplaty-do-samochodu-elektrycznego
- Main opposition party demands deposition from minister who made unfortunate slip of the tounge and didnt immediately correct herself on international conference on 80th anniversary of liberating of the largest concentration camp Auschwitz-Birkenau. "In the territory occupied by Germany, Polish Nazis built camps that were labor camps, which later became mass extermination camps."
Any democratic society should boycott Tesla until Musk is removed from the company.
And also spacex
Alternatives to spacex are Roskosmos and NASA, which buys engines from first two.
Deposed?
Doesn't matter, he owns the stock and gets rich anyway.
The EU should impose a continent-wide ban on Tesla imports (or steep tariffs eh? Why not copy the orange peel) until Tesla offloads Musk - including buying back his shares.
The EU should prepare for a trade war, but it shouldn’t take the first shot.
In this instance, this isn't a trade war, it's a war against neo-Nazism. Imposing tarrifs specifically on Tesla wouldn't be about helping European car manufacturer, it would be about extinguishing Musk's rhetoric.
It's too early in the morning for me to look this up but I bet his worth is more than most of the EU member's GDP.
Sanctions on him individually as well as anything he owns. Bar him from entry, tax the living shit out of any of his properties including any assets he has in the EU.
It’s too early in the morning for me to look this up but I bet his worth is more than most of the EU member’s GDP.
EU members aren't third world countries. The poorest in the EU - Romania - has a GDP roughly comparable to Musk's theoretical worth (I say theoretical because it's really tied to what Tesla shares are worth. It'll only be real if he sells them, and he can't without collapsing the price of the share).
But comparing GDP and someone's wealth is comparing oranges and apples, because Romania's GDP happens every year, unlike Musk's wealth.
And more importantly, the EU is all those countries' GDP combined. That's in fact exactly why those countries have united: to have more weight to throw around. Musk is no match for the GDP of the entire European Union, which is roughly $19tn.
I keep getting this feeling that Musk is a stooge and he sacrificed himself/was sacrificed with the Nazi salute thing as a distraction.
He doesn't give a shit about Tesla tanking, as long as he can use his new connections to ride the stock market waves through some well-planned trades (i.e. insider trading).
These guys can insider trade all they want now. Who the hell is gonna stop them? Nancy Pelosi? Lol.
Nah, he's looking higher than just money. He was making a bunch of moves that the MAGA folks weren't happy about, such as getting into fights with Laura Loomer over the specifics of how they're going to fuck over everyone. A little hand gesture at a rally, and suddenly all those people are lining up to defend him.
Agree. I don't care about Trump's second term since I'm not a US citizen but I'm worried about the trend of money buying everything. Recent events have shown that billionaires don't need to pretend to care about society. They can just join a political party and use their money to do whatever they want.
Musk supporting AfD is just him proving his power. He could not care less about Germans or even Tesla. As much fun as seeing Trump having to clarify that he's the president, it's a really bad trend that in this age of media content and AI, it's easier than ever to influence any society.
I'm pretty sure DeepSeek will play in this direction: give free AI with "PRC influence" to everyone, and when repeatedly enough time, people will believe what they're told.
He's right we should move past the guilt and onto whatever it is that strips modern day Nazis of their wealth for reparations.
I would say he's right if he meant Germany would move past it's Nazi guilt, stop funding a goddamn present day genocide and arrest the perpetrators of the currently ongoing one, like the ICC has told them to do.
Can you imagine, Germany standing against genocide one of these days ? That would be a grand step forward.
What do you want? The ministers for foreign and inner affairs have both stated that they would obviously comply by the law and would have Netanjahu arrested. He has not come to Germany though, so what is it you want? Have a spec ops team invade Israel and arrest him?
I would prefer if Germany stopped exporting weapons to Israel asap and that Germany makes good on what those ministers both said. I would also be happy if anti genocide peaceful protests were not acted against.
Yes, let's forget the colonial past and what we used to do to people coming from Africa that moved to the Americas.
They want that too
Didn't you hear? Enslaved peoples learned valuable skills! That makes it ok I guess?
One of my first thoughts about Musk's support for the AfD was that maybe we can trick these idiots into buying Teslas. That at least would be good for the environment
Very few reasons to get a Tesla when Lucid exists. I can think of three good ones— price, software reliability, and concerns about the company’s health— but these aren’t enough to overcome the icky feeling of funding Musk and his aspirations for me.