How much resources are spent fact checking because bots like Mila Joy are lying?

It's not like there's a state border check for vehicle emissions. You can visit California in a non-California car without an emissions check. Joy's claim doesn't make sense even before fact checking.

There is a border check entering CA but they only ask about fruits and vegetables.
- Wow it's true: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Border_Protection_Stations
  I don't think any other US state has checkpoints. This is a surprise to me.
It's meant to sow discord, not be fact checked or taken seriously by critically-minded people. It's meant to rile up the MAGA's.
- Fascist agitprop
Welcome to modern society where facts don't matter and all feelings are made up.
- Made up feelings are facts now
But dumbasses will eat that shit up

This is a great example of the importance of teaching people critical thinking skills.

If you stop to analyze what was written in this sensationalized post rather than acting on your emotions, the first question that should come into mind is "who stopped them?". There are no checkpoints between Oregon and California where cars are turned away from crossing state lines due to emissions. In fact, that would probably violate federal free travel laws which would supercede any stupid law like that.

Next, consider the source. Is this person trustworthy? Did they provide ample citations to reputable journalistic outlets that verified the factuality of the claims? If not, they may be trying to deceive you with falsehoods or have an ulterior motive for misrepresenting the facts. At best they are repeating claims that they've heard from others and anything they report on should be taken with a grain of salt.

This post doesn't hold up to the slightest amount of scrutiny, but people get fooled every day by crap like this. My advice is that if you hear something that sounds outrageous or too good to be true, stop and think carefully about it for a few minutes, or maybe just wait for another source to report it. Saves you a lot of stress and protects you from endlessly doomscrolling.

The firetrucks were allowed through but Haitian immigrants ate them!
You expect too much from these people, and an increasing share of them aren't genuine people at all.
- The firetrucks were allowed through but Haitian immigrants ate them!
  That sounds reasonable and matches what the Big Red Squid told me on TV after last nights meth binge.
A friend of mine posted something on Facebook (reposted from a local list in Arizona) claiming that two people were knocking on doors and beating up people, and one woman was in the hospital as a result. Pictures of the perpetrators and everything.
Something felt off, so I did a quick search on their names. And I found an article from some city in Texas where the same rumor had been circulating about that area. The article clarified that the two people had committed some crimes several years ago and were caught, tried, and convicted already.
So someone took one of these, changed the name of the area, and posted it to the local list. Why do people do this? A form of stochastic terrorism maybe?
Edit - I can't find the post (I think my friend deleted it), but I did still have a tab open with the article about it.
- I have noticed this as well. Back during the early facebook years, a "news" outlet would just generate content by posting stories like "Greenville ranked as the city with highest crime rate" every week or so.
  Everybody on my facebook feed would go crazy saying things like "I always knew that town was dangerous, but to hear it outranks New York? TERRIFYING!"
  Only issue is that this outlet would have 50 different URLs for the article, all giving a city in a different state (always an immigrant heavy suburb) and those articles would be appear around facebook and nobody would know the wiser.
  It costs almost nothing for them to rewrite the world and your perspective about it. The granularity they are now capable of should give us pause.
“who stopped them?”. There are no checkpoints between Oregon and California
.. actually, there are checkpoints along every major roadway into California that do check incoming vehicles, mostly to find and prevent invasive species from entering the state and affecting the agricultural industry, and more broadly to protect the environmental systems in California. There have, in fact, been legal challenges against these checkpoints for violating travel laws, but the checkpoints have remained. They've also been used to seize non-agricultural items like weed, weapons smuggling, etc. so emissions standards checking isn't completely out of the realm.
Obviously, she's lying and she doesn't know any of this either anyway. But there are checkpoints to enter California.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Border_Protection_Stations
- I can't speak for all of them, but the I5 border station near the Oregon border hasn't even been manned in several years. This gal is so full of shit.
- Yeah, you're right, but you also conveniently cut out the second half of my sentence where I specifically mentioned being turned away for emissions. Context matters.
- I go through one all the time there has not been anyone there stopping people for years now
Teaching critical thinking skills it not a solution. People are not getting fooled, they want to believe it, it fills an emotional need.
Neo-liberal solutions to societal issues focusing on individuals has been a complete disaster. It is basically victim blaming and doesn't actually scale in many circumstances.
Eg. High house prices; Victims fault for not working harder and saving more. Neo-liberal solution: Work longer, spend way less. Outcome at scale: Economy crashes due to low spending.
- I agree with the rest, but
  Teaching critical thinking skills it not a solution. People are not getting fooled, they want to believe it, it fills an emotional need.
  Yes. Properly taught critical thinking overrides the emotional thinking. If it didn't, people wouldn't anymore then animals.
Sometimes I wonder how much better the world could be if I had the power to snap my fingers and everybody on the planet knows that confirmation bias exists and it’s a big deal.
But you see I want it to be true therefore it is

The original post has 58k views, the correct information has 2k. That is the level of efficiency that site has in disseminating correct information.

The timestamps imply the correct information is less than an hour old in that screenshot
- So is the incorrect information
a lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes
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- My point was not that X would be able to do something about this, but that it is not a source of breaking news, and fundamentally not a replacement for journalism…and should not be used as such.
Aptly put lmaooo, gonna quote this in the future at some point xD

Too late. It's already become true, and another example of wokeness for your racist uncle to bang on about.

This is exactly why so many things just feel hopeless to me. The worst people have caught on to, and the parrots don't even realize, that you can just say literally anything and the occupants of your echo chamber will believe it immediately and then refuse to believe whatever reality actually is if it is presented to them by literally any other "outsider."
Hell even someone of the "in-group" who is not substantial enough will be outed as an "other" if they dare go against the initial message.
- The knock-on effects of this also concern me. Largely, the only effective way I've seen to battle disinformation is to retreat to smaller spaces. The intensity and engagement driven content loop on all the major platforms just fuels the fire. Ultimately, to achieve a better admin:user ratio where the admins aren't idiots. While I wax nostalgic about my former BBS days, it feels like a giant step backwards to that. The quality on content is there and signal:noise ratio is sublime, but the amount of information, level of discourse, and widespread geographic socialization, isn't.
Fucking Californian wokies! They made fire gay!
- They don't call it flaming for nothing!

how do we even come back from this

At the risk of being called an accelerationist, the fact of the matter is that the only way out is through.
- I just assume things cannot be controlled, there is no direction, and the majority of the human race will be swimming in lies, disinformation and cat memes fur generations
The French had a similar issue in the tail end of the 1700's, perhaps we could draw inspiration from their work.
I plan to move somewhere where this isnt a problem. If Im going to live in a capitalist society Im going to exercise my free market choice to choose somewhere better than the McDonalds being run by geriatric conspiracy theorists
- This eventually gets CIA'd. There is no escape but slaying the dragon.

America does not care about truth. Worse, it actively discourages truth.

Lying is accepted. Making up facts that suit your narrative and shouting down anyone who disagrees gets you rewarded with the highest position of state.

We, the rest of the world, are just watching you guys in horror.

At Least half of us are basically watching in horror from inside.
- At least - no, in that case it wouldn't have happened. At most half. I'd say it's way below half.
America does not care about truth
Show me a country with social media and I'll show you people who value making their political opponents 'look like fools' by lying.
- Almost like that people don't care about facts everywhere on the planet.
It's a post-truth world here in the US!
- Makes sense. The Internet was the peak of the information age and usually with any cultural push their is the counter culture equivalent. When any truth could be found in seconds we now find ourselves where any opinion can be fed enough backing to feel like a truth.

Anyone politicizing the fires from the comfort of a place that isn’t burning to the ground, should immediately shut the fuck up.

Personally I would go so far as to say that people politicizing the fires from a place that is burning to the ground should probably also immediately shut up and flee the building.
Well apparently believing in climate change is political over here, and I don't think it's wrong to point to this as evidence that we need to make some serious changes.
They are inside the fire too, look at Mel Gibson's interview practically WHILE his house was burning.

You never want a serious crisis to go to waste. And what I mean by that is an opportunity to do things that you think you could not do before.

Driving Californians (particularly the wealthy and well-connected Malibu celebrity class) insane with rage and paranoia, then pointing them at the milquetoast liberal stand-ins for Far-Left Radicalism, will do to California what it did to New York, Texas, and Florida.

Just a matter of time before the right-wing propaganda machine crushes the brains of the enfranchised class. I'm already hearing my mother-in-law blame the stupid Los Angelinos for raising her own home insurance rates. And more than a few coworkers are smugly insisting this is what a DEI fire department gets you.

Being a Republican allows you to be a smug.Asshole and call it politics
- Its not the Republican-ism that comes first. You have to sell people on the "I'm exceptional" mentality first, then insist they're being exploited by their inferiors. Malibu celebrities are a target rich environment for this kind of delusional elitism.
  Expect a lot more Californians going on Joe Rogan and making up tall tales about how the fire was caused by poors and illegals stealing all the good firefighting water, while the state refused help for some arcane bureaucratic reasons related to The Fairness Doctrine.
- I know you're joking, but let's not do that.

Who is surprised? People are upset. The two are not the same reaction.

2100 retweets on the lie.
33 on the truth.

This stupid bitch has since deleted the tweet and gotten back to it like it's another Tuesday. OSFM had to put out a statement correcting it. I hate people.

she deleted the original tweet, then reposted it again.
- My bad, you're right. I tried to check first, but I didn't have the patience to scroll past her claiming America Is So Back because "Starbucks kicked homeless people out of bathrooms," so I ended up not seeing the reposted tweet.
  She lies, runs away from OSFM, gets community noted, and still, in the replies:
  Um, this is 100% TRUE and WOKE Oregon seems to be covering for WOKE California. Leftists stick together.
  There are many people whose work and ideas I deeply respect, but even in my weakest moments, I couldn't possibly idolize them like this useless waste of oxygen does gargling on Trump's ballsack every day.
  Because I'm a horrible person, I can foresee that there's zero chance I'll die before doing something monumentally stupid. My greatest shame is realizing it probably won't be as effective as what Luigi did.

Why the fuck you lying? Stop fucking lying. Why you always lying?

Money, grifting is the way the right makes lots of money.
- I swear half of the right wing pundits on YouTube are just doing it for the ad revenue. They see that people are mad about right wing crazies so they act like they are right wing so they can clicks
  Sometimes you can see their mask slip.
  Andrew Tate, that Pearl lady. Both have accidentally smiled in interviews at times that signal they are trolling

Mila Joy fucks DONKEYS*.

Mila Joy is a HORSE FUCKER*.

Leave Xhitter while you can.

*It’s true, because lols

Twitter. It will always be Twitter
- Nah fam.. twitter dead.
- Nah fam.. twitter dead.
- Nah fam.. twitter dead.

I like the idea that someone mid fighting the fires, put down thier hose to reposnd to the tweet

The office of the state fire marshal definitely did not put down a fire hose. Or get up from their desk. (or did I get wooshed?)
- No it's just a funny situation to imagine.

Like it's stupid how easy it is to make up misinformation and disinformation, compared to how much effort it takes to refute it. Humanity is doomed.

I could just as easily say: "The Oregon fire department couldn't get to the fires in time because they had been stopped by immigrant caravans, woke transgender hitchhikers and antifa mobs!!!!!!"

Gish Gallup
It also spreads so much faster; I’ll always hear the lie from someone before I get the chance to look it up for myself, so I can’t refute it.
Oh god, don't give the Directed Unethical Mass Blatherers Aiming Shit Streams Errantly Steadily any easy copy/paste material.

Right wingers haven't cared about the truth for decades. It's just now they don't care whether we know it or not. Just think back to Trump's first term and "alternate truths" and all that. They don't care anymore. They believe what they want to believe, and no amount of facts or reasoning is going to change it.

But yes, everyone lies. Some people just more than others and some will lie to your face with a smirk on their face knowing damn well you know they're lying.

since they repealed the Fairness Doctrine (not that it was perfect) in the late 80s when they realized that balanced reporting was one of the things that forced Nixon's resignation

You know how cheaters ruin online games? How their fun relies on fucking everyone, abusing the system and winning without respecting the rules? The same applies to people like her, trump, musk, etc. They're "communication cheaters", they don't respect the rules, they abuse the system, yet platforms want us to believe that they deserve to be treated like common users.

"Waah waah mah 🧊 🍑 waah waah censorship" - Fuck you. If free speech was a game, these people would be banned.

Why would known diarrhea fetishist Mila Joy say blatant lies on the internet?

The problem is that the original tweet will have been seen by many more users than the reply. And knowing what the public is like...

Bot? How do we know that isn't just another of Elon's alts?

I suppose somebody could check if she's called him a good father recently...

Ah yes, the notorious CA Border Control keeping visitors out. Make sure you bring your CA visa if you want to enter the state. 🙄

These people are fucking off the charts insane.

This is the worst, this is the number one problem right now. And this is precisely what the Elon Musks of the world want.

This is something AI would be good for

Have it search for specific misinformation and reply with a canned response with sources using an official account.

Or someone can just train an AI to spit out more misinformation.
- And so, the bot wars started
- Dead Internet Theory and so.
- Or someone could train a bot to exaggerate misinformation from known liars
  Community note: In fact, Oregon sent over 420 fire trucks but due to the rampage of the woke chupacabra and the cannibals of the northern California mountains, only 69 made it as far south as Sacramento. At that point California officials realized that Oregon actually sent minivans full of weed and spent the weekend hotboxing, using the Jewish space laser that started the fires on the "defrost" setting to heat up the marijuana.
- Then it’s going to be AI vs AI
  In this case the misinformation AI will be run by Musk’s sugar daddy Putin so it won’t get banned
dont need AI for this. its why we have systems like webs of trust and peer verification. standard crypto + some social communication solves a lot of these problems.
- How can a web of trust prevent Joe-bob from claiming bullshit like in the OP?

AI is going to make misinformation a 100 times worse. There really needs to be laws with bot usage on social media and data privacy laws.

That, but also better to break up all large companies and eliminate multimillionnaires and billionnaires.

Alright, I've read enough here.... My conclusion; California fire IS gay.

Now, don't get up and clap. This was figured fair and square via research. I scrolled endlessly and stopped when I saw the appropriate comment that supported my hip-O-thesis.

I particularly like the truck/engine correction.

Any one who believes it should heed her advice and get out.

Is that Threads? Threads is a cesspool of incessant lies, rage- and engagement bait.

BuT iT fEeLs TrUe!

Fun feels-untrue fact: there are more trees on earth than stars in our galaxy.
Someone mentioned that on Twitter once and like 90% of the replies were calling them stupid

Why do these people want everyone to get out of California? Maybe they’ll move to where you live and start voting there. Or their secret plan is if everyone moves away they can then move in?