Woman who threw bowl of food at Chipotle worker sentenced to work 2 months in fast food job
Woman who threw bowl of food at Chipotle worker sentenced to work 2 months in fast food job | CNN Business
I like the judge, but 20 hours a week wouldn't teach anyone how hard it is to work in the service industry.
will have to work there 20 hours a week
Sure it would. 20 hours all over the place makes it really hard to schedule any other jobs or whatever (which they often do on purpose specifically to make it harder for you to find something else to reduce your availability), so it’s about as accurate as you can get knowing full well in 2 months you can return to your normal life..
Seems like a typical shift for fast food workers. They don't want them to be full-time and eligible for any kind of benefits.
The manager probably wouldn't give her more anyways if she was a full time employee so they could avoid paying for benefits.
How will the logistics of this work? Are there fast-food restaurants that would accept a privileged Karen with anger management issues as a member of their team? After all, they have a business with tight margins to run, and this sounds like a huge liability.
Free labor, and keep her away from customers. Cleaning, prepping, whatever. If she causes problems, she violates probation and serves the rest of time in prison. Give the store an incentive to deal with her. With thin margins, I'd take those odds. Fuck threatening to fire; if you fuck up, you go back to prison. "Now clean the damn fryer's like your freedom depended on it"
Many, many fast food restaurants are super short staffed because no one wants to do the job at the current market rate. If she actually tried she could find one in a day.
Also, fast food margins really aren't that tight.
The article says she has yet to find the job.
Good luck finding someone to hire you for only two months as punishment for abuse. I'm sure they're scrambling for predetermined extremely short term employment from a toxic pile.
Id guess working "fast food" in the commissary
On the one hand, I like this, but on the other hand it’s bad if judges are handing out other people’s every day life as a punishment
Don't think of it that way. You're not saying oh this is terrible so now you have to do this. You're saying this is a demanding job and you ought to have respect for the people who do it. Give them a little insight into the hardships of the people they're giving shit
Some people’s everyday lives are punishment. That’s the world we’ve built.
On top of that, there are those who can’t/won’t learn empathy. The only way they can understand is by actually living through it themselves. I think sentences like this should be commonplace for anyone who commits a crime against a service worker.
If you've ever worked in a low paying customer service job for a prolonged amount of time, you know that IT IS a punishment.
I worked retail for 6 years. I know.
I sentence you to be surewhynotlem for a week. A punishment worse than death.
I object. Isn't there a rule about no cruel and unusual punishments?
but then they rock as you and turn everything around in ways you never could.
This was my first thought as well. But on the other hand, I thinks it's great if we can set aside our desire for punishment/retribution and just increase empathy. (Walk a mile in their shoes)
Maybe on their last day of service, the person they assaulted gets to throw a burrito bowl in their face. Then we get the best of both worlds.
Her poor poor coworkers
Yeah the judge should include that she will work the shift alone.
Some little leagues have a similar rule. If a parent verbally abuses an umpire enough that parent must umpire a certain number of games to see just how hard it is. Punishment fits the crime perfectly.
My kids little league tried that, lasted a game before they realized that having a biased ref that doesn’t know the rules doesn’t make for a fun experience for the kids.
One of those sounds great in theory things, which is why it’s probably such a popular fallacy to spread.
Everyone should be forced to work a service industry job for at least six months when they're teenagers. It helps you develop a healthy misanthropy
Absolutely my first job was fast food, and I had no clue the level of entitlement of some people. Some people treat fast food employees like they're not even people.
That sounds like a way for service industries to exploit their workforce even more; if people have to work them, then competition for those jobs would rise, especially during non school hours. Plus, if school is any indication, kids would put it basically no effort if they have to work there and cant just be fired (and if they can, what happens if they are and therefore cannot complete the six months?). I dont think itd really reduce the entitlement either, itd just become "Ive done my service work so I'm entitled to act however I want, kid!" from those kinds of customers anyway.
I've always said that if I were elected president, I would institute mandatory retail service instead of mandatory military service. Doesn't matter if you're a kid in high school or a ceo making seven figures, everybody has to do their time at some point. Either it would cause world peace or nuclear armageddon, and either one would probably be an improvement.
I've said this, except you have a choice:
You can do retail, hospitality, or health services (eg cleaning hospitals, very basic patient support, anything that requires minimal training and won't do harm to any patient in their care).
I am a Service rep and my mum was a nurse, so we've both seen a lot of the worst of humanity. I think people need to extend more empathy to nurses and other medical staff - I understand for many patients, it's a horrible, scary situation, but these people are (generally) there to help and have to deal with a lot of awful stuff every single day.
More patience and empathy in general would make for a much better society.
I get my misanthropy outlook from having a horrible childhood and teenage years. I'd hope I would've been exempt when I was a teen.
That honestly wouldn't even be too hard to implement, just roll it out as a mandatory credit for HS graduation and done lmao
That would be a hail corporate law
Her attorney, Joseph O’Malley, said his client had no criminal record before the incident and that she is truly sorry for her actions that day.
“Let’s give her the opportunity to not let this one day define the rest of her life,” he told CNN.
Righhhht. No way she always treat fast food (and other services industry) employees that way, and this is just the first time it escalated to court.
I thought we had laws against cruel and unusual punishment.
It's an opt-in arrangement.
This is part of a plea bargain. She had a choice of three months in jail or one month in jail and two months working a fast food job. She had a choice between a "normal" three month sentence or this "unusual" sentence.
One could make the argument that working fast food is less cruel than spending 3 months in Jail. If you claim that fast food is worse then she kind of deserves to make that realization herself.
And yet we allow Chipotle to treat its workers like that anyway.
Everyone should have at least one bad service job once in their life.
Ive been thinking about jobs everyone should have at least for a week.
For sure, everyone should be a server.
So far, my list also includes a cashier, a janitor, a teacher for a rowdy class, a bus driver, and a old person caretaker.
now that’s justice
edit:
Gilligan told CNN he’s not sure Hayne is as sorry as she claimed to be in court, pointing out that she was still complaining about the food during the hearing.
“She still has not picked up that this is not appropriate,” Gilligan told CNN Wednesday.
“You didn’t get your burrito bowl the way you like it, and this is how you respond?” he told Hayne during the hearing. He suggested she’s not going to be happy with the food she’s about to get in jail.
I like this judge.
Gilligan told CNN he thought about the possible unusual sentence a couple of days before the November hearing.
“Every time you watch the video, it makes you more and more upset,” he said. “I was thinking, ‘What else can I do rather than just have her sit in jail.’”
I didn't know judges could do this. This seems amazing and I love it.
Me neither, this should be a standard punishment for abusing food workers.
The length of time is good, too. It takes you about a month to get competent, and another month to realize that no, it doesn’t matter how good you get. The job sucks regardless.
I hope they put her on register so she gets lots of face time with lovely customers like herself. No fair if she hides in back making guacamole all day!
Good sentencing by the judge and screw the woman who threw the food, but I find it a bit silly to go to therapy for "trauma" caused by having food thrown in your face. If she was burned that's a different story, but I would assume the article would mention it if that were the case.
Trauma isn't just for life threatening stuff, it's essentially like having an event or series of events cause a switch to be installed in your brain which activates a feeling or a negative thought process you don't really control. In a life threatening situation that feeling might be an overwhelming sense of danger and fear for your life or mistrust of people. If it's loss related it is crushing reminders of your loss and how your life has changed.
In this instance I would imagine it is something more like : the uninteruptable thought process that other people don't see you as fully human and that you are not a being worthy of basic respect and that something about you in particular invites abuse.
Something like that could be triggered just by showing up to your job and interrupting that thought process takes a lot of work because with trauma it's basically instant. Working to disassociate the trigger from the feeling while still having to work to support yourself in jobs that reinforce that feeling would be hell. A lot of people who are living paycheck to paycheck are really harmed by just losing a few hours of work so even taking the time to leave and find a new job could create outsized financial issues.
This is actually very fitting
ummm, restaurant owners/managers may be thanks but not thanks with her services
I'm thinking it's going to be the fast food joint that throws food at customers.
I mean it is good that she is going to have to see what it is like to work fast food. But I feel so fucking sorry for her co workers. It is going to be hell working with this Karen. And she isn’t going to be there forever so she has no incentive not to be a jackass.
Oh, there’ll be plenty of incentive in a rider on that sentence if she doesn’t meet the standards the judge sets .
This is like a daytime sitcom.
She’s MY butler!
I think this fits the bill of cruel and unusual punishment.
What's cruel about it? It seems akin to community service which is handed down as legal punishment all the time.
Unusual? Yes. Cruel? No. Educational? Also yes.
Cruel, absolutely yes. A better punishment would be working a prison commissary.
I caught your tongue in cheek-ness.
Thanks. I'm glad someone here was able to read into this.
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edit: lol that lady is a bitch but I'd have told the judge to just sit me for the whole sentence. Eat shit dude, I'm not working fucking fast food. Of course, I don't treat anyone like shit no matter the occupation
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