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  • "It's not anecdotal", they anecdotally claimed

    (while everbody has now forgotten the entire point; that "people can be intentionall/accidentally divisive")

    (Insert divisive post-script)

    I really hope your day goes better than whatever tf this was

  • You offered two loaded options that "seemed apparent" to you, without acknowledging (and/or understanding) anything I actually said. You read whatever you wanted to hear apparently, and then re-addressed me with even more volatility. You tried to leave me with the options of "agree with me" or "disagree and be wrong"... cornering the conversation as opposed to actually intending to understand

    What would you like to hear so that you feel vindicated and whole? How far down the rabbit hole do we need to go before understanding this entire conversation is now meaninglessly entangled; we're apparently just misunderstanding each other

    "Go team". People are inherently geared towards black/white, group thinking, us and them; we're social creatures. I considered OP's meme to be unfortunately divisive, regardless of "how true" it is. Underlying truth underlies overlying generalizations, and really takes away from the interpersonal place we all share. Division is a cheap way to find acceptance amongst the group you wish to receive acceptance from

    If you're actually interested in continuing, I have the time unfortunately. If you're just trolling, no matter; something may be gained from our conversation by someone else. So where does or misunderstanding lie?

    "Go team" means people tend to create sides to choose from, out of some kind of nature or comfortability... but it can become unnecessarily divisive when the "sides" are arbitrary and narrow to begin with. But that's a lot to say when sometimes less is more, and I'm just commenting about a meme. I'm sorry if that upset you or you took it differently than intended... whatever you read wasn't what I meant, it seems. And I feel like you already know that, but fuck it, I'ma give you the benefit of the doubt

    What else do we have to talk about? Sorry mate, there's really no mountain to build here outta this mole-hill

  • My man, you didn't ask a question for understanding. You asked a question, gave me two options, and there's only one correct answer (unless you're a monster I guess?)

    You can't just say "questions are not attacks", after laying down a purity test in the "form of a question"... for what? We're not enemies, I promise... you're dividing either purposefully (trolling), or not actually understanding what I've said. I'm sorry if I upset you, but damn dude; it's ok. I'm "team criticism of genocide", if you truly couldn't parse that out already. You're team... I don't honestly care, I hope the best for you.

    There, we're now both ostensibly on some side I guess. Congrats, you divided nothing into whatever you choose to perceive. You can also just ignore me btw, no need for the (totally not overt) aggression. I really do hope you have an ok day

  • Not sure if you're being purposely obtuse or you truly don't understand. I say, "Go team!"... and you're displaying exactly what I'm talking about

    I bet we'd be friends if we both dropped the shit

  • See, there it is again. "It's a German thing. It's not a stereotype, all Germans are". You have to see the irony in what your statement boils down to. Anecdotes are funny little things that can really cause harm when internalized at face value

  • I see what you're saying, I guess it comes off as "all Germans" to me because "a random German" sounds like, "any random sample of Germans is likely to contain a xenophobic/nationalist individual"; when I feel like that could be the case for almost any random group... thus, unnecessarily creating an outgroup

    Maybe instead of "random German person on Lemmy", it could be "random xenophobic German person on Lemmy"...a little wordy, but it captures the irony of your statement, while also bringing the atrocities of Isreal to the forefront of attention

    Idk, maybe I'm too much of a/an (insert label) and I'm killing the joke by overthinking

    Edit: maybe it's like mentioning "school shootings and guns" or "pittbulls" and inevitably awakening the indignant who just "have to comment and prove their point"... thus proving (and reinforcing) your own point. To me, it feels like introducing discussion on an already lopsided court; though I still respect your self-expression. I just feel it could be a little more nuanced so as to avoid any extra division... but that's just my own two cents

  • I appreciate the explanation. It still seems unnecessarily divisive though. If one had no context at all, this meme would just come off as "all Germans bad" or "all Germans are (insert one's perception)". Internalization of reactionary media isn't rational, and this just seems to throw fuel on a fire that doesn't even exist

    People are just people at the end of the day, and some are less informed or more hateful than others, wherever you go. No need to create an outgroup in order to condemn something inherently evil

  • You can and should condemn apartheid and genocide; but who is the "random German on Lemmy"? Are Germans bad? Is there a specific user you're referring to, or are you casting a wide net and making "Germans" an outgroup? Maybe I don't get it, but it looks like you're condemning one thing at the expense of another... and that's unnecessarily divisive to me if your only goal was to bring something into the foreground of conversation. Can you explain what your meme means?

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