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  • For saying that they are unethical but that this article is not evidence of that I should be ashamed? This conclusions in this article would label everyone who develops ML models as unethical. How about we focus on the ways in which Flock is unethical rather than making non-issues into issues?

    Flock is absolutely unethical but this is not evidence of that.

  • You should read about what ultra-processed means before spreading misinformation. In fact, ZERO of the examples you gave make something fall into the Nova "ultra-processed" classification. Each of those would place them in the category "processed".

    Processed foods are relatively simple food products produced by adding processed culinary ingredients (group 2 substances) such as salt or sugar to unprocessed (group 1) foods.

    Processed foods are made or preserved through baking, boiling, canning, bottling, and non-alcoholic fermentation. They often use additives to enhance shelf life, protect the properties of unprocessed food, prevent the spread of microorganisms, or make them more enjoyable.

    Examples include cheese, canned vegetables, salted nuts, fruits in syrup, and dried or canned fish. Breads, pastries, cakes, biscuits, snacks, and some meat products fall into this group when they are made predominantly from group 1 foods with the addition of group 2 ingredients.

  • I want to preface this by saying that I don't like Flock or what they do. I am not intending to call them "ethical". Below, I will say that this article gives no evidence that Flock is being unethical in THIS INSTANCE. I do think they do unethical things in other instances.

    With that said, this is a non-story for anyone who understands how machine learning works. An ML or AI model is nothing more than a bunch of well-labeled data describing the phenomena you'd like to predict and a bunch of math that connects that data in interesting ways. If you want to "train" an ML or AI model, you must have a good, well-labeled training dataset. Something that the model can "learn" from.

    The ONLY way to get a large, well-labeled dataset is to have a bunch of humans look at a lot of data and annotate it to say what is in it. It is possible to do this in an ethical way by anonymizing data and feeding it to the annotators in unconnected ways. They may or may not be doing this ethically but the article gives no evidence either way.

    Unlike Amazon, with their cashier-less stores, this doesn't accuse Flock of using human labor to look at real, live data. They aren't being accused of being an "AI" model composed of inexpensive labor. They are being accused of doing what every ML or AI model builder does; using human labor to label training data for their model. This is the same for corporate models (which tend to use employees or gig workers) as it is for academic models (which tend to use graduate students).

    Flock is unethical in other ways but this is just how the ML and AI sausages are made.

  • I disagree that this is the way forward. I want to see criminal prosecutions. If that results in violence so be it. I won't support violence, though.

    That said, I'm supremely disappointed in the willingness of democrats to persue impeachments and prosecutions.

    While it's possible that violence is required to solve our current problems, I still hold hope that we can solve things another way.

  • I agree with you that this should be illegal. I expect this was in the terms of service, though. Since we have no laws restricting this kind of bullshit, the company can argue that they're within their rights.

    We need some real legislation around privacy. It's never going to happen, but it needs to. We need a right to anonymity but that is too scary for advertisers and our police state.

  • The woman is Leavitt's nephew's mother but is estranged from her child. She has no real relationship to Leavitt.

    The real story here is that she was a DACA kid with one arrest for battery, the legal outcome of which is unclear. Obviously "the worst of the worst".

  • I guess my point is mainly that the increase in price for employer supplied health care is unlikely to be due to the changes in subsidies. It is more likely due to gouging by someone somewhere in the chain. We don't know enough about the impacts of losing subsidies for health care companies to adjust other prices in good faith. Someone is getting wealthy off the changes to that employer supplied health care plan.

  • Why do these dumb fucks pretend they haven't seen the video? They always do this if they don't want to address an issue. They say "well, I have been busy and haven't heard the MOST IMPORTANT NEWS OF THE DAY" as though it's okay to be grossly uninformed. As though their staffers didn't bring it to their attention immediately. They treat us like morons. It's just too bad so many of us are...

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    Bald Eagle at my local City Park

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    Some better shots of American White Pelicans from the nearby lake (June 2023, Colorado)

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    Barn Swallow (Colorado, June 2023)

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    Great Blue Heron

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