apple users in a nutshell

This is one of the shitposts of all time.

It's a literal shit post
- Exclusive too
- I’m surprised you could afford it, bro.
- But is it exclusive? I won't upvote otherwise.

NFT bros

I would sooner rather buy a bag of actual deluxe dog shit than an NFT.
It can at least have some kind of utility. Like hurling it at NFT bros, for example.
- At least with the dog shit you actually own something.
This is the true meme

No one cares more about what devices people who use iPhones use than Android Users.

I had a stroke reading that.
- Guess it's hard to type coherently when you're eating shit
- Aw he's Jaymes. From "Literature Cafe"
Zoomer itoddlers clearly care because of all the message color bullshit
Except I've experienced the exact opposite. The iPhone users are the ones who complain about android users messing up their iMessage chats while simultaneously being too fucking stupid to realize it's Apple who is screwing them.
- Wow, that’s pretty major oppression there. You should seek out a therapist to help you deal with your trauma.

Android User here. Never owned any Apple device.

But they're fucking good quality. Anyone can see that. So what's the problem?

I like Android 'cos I like dicking about with it. Some people don't want to dick about with their phones, they want to do other stuff that could be more interesting.

I carry 2 phones because I have a government job, so if any work is done on my phone it becomes subject to Open Records requests. If I have to carry 2 phones I might as well have both operating systems.
So my personal phone is Android and my work phone is an iPhone.
I don't understand how people prefer iPhones. The hardware is nice, but the OS is horrible. They came up with some neat stuff in 2008, but it feels like they haven't improved much since then. Even informing the greater flexibility of Android - it's just easier to use. Hell, just turning wifi or Bluetooth on and off is a hassle on the iPhone versus a single swipe and tap on Android.
- Hell, just turning wifi or Bluetooth on and off is a hassle on the iPhone versus a single swipe and tap on Android.
  What on earth are you talking about? I’m not going to claim Apple invented it (because they likely stole it from another os like android) but they’ve had the single swipe down control panel on iOS to turn off Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, airplane mode, etc for like a decade+. I have Apple devices, and trust me, there’s plenty to shit on without making stuff up.
High quality until you drop it once and the entire screen shatters. High quality until your lightning cable breaks. High quality until planned obsolescence renders it unusable. Nah Apple products are pure ass lmao, literally no reason to ever buy one unless it's got some exclusive artsy software you really like (and even then there's prob something just as good for windows or Linux). As far as bang for your buck goes I can't think of a worse choice than Apple in any given field
I think the problems include the fact that an actual apple computer starts at 1000 and going higher than 8GB of RAM and 256G of storage costs you another 1000 because hardware isn't really modular and storage and ram are a huge tool of market segmentation.
Meanwhile a traditional desktop starts at $7000.
It's like they have lifted everything but the absolutely cheapest market segments out of reach of virtually any normal folks.
- going higher than 8GB of RAM and 256G of storage costs you another 1000
  These are the things i look at when reviewers talk about apple "taking gaming serious now" and im just like what.
Pretty much this for me too. Switched to iphone because I no longer wanted to tinker, switched my work laptop to apple silicon because the battery life and performance is stellar.
Learned to be fine with mac os, do most things in terminal anyway. Will likely switch to asahi linux when it is stable enough that I don’t have to tinker, because tinkering gets in the way of actually getting things done in my situation.
Also, being real: running LLMs on my mac is great. 128gb of unified memory basically means 120gb of vram. It’s absurdly expensive, but nothing quite like it exists in the market right now.
Apple has that break the lense on a camera and your phone starts to brick it's self as it thinks it's been repaired by someone who's not apple
Idk every apple product I've touched always felt pretty thin and flimsy. Don't even get me started on Mac mice. They're so cheaply made you don't get a second mouse button. The Mac books are so fragile you can break them by looking at them wrong. The only time I've ever seen a iPhone that doesn't have a crack in the screen is when they are brand new. Maybe I'm a bit of a farmer for considering rigidity the definition of high quality, but god how do one button mice feel good.
I tried Android with the S10 for a little over a year. It felt too clunky and everything I wanted to customize would have required jailbreaking, which feels too much like work for me. I went back to iPhone after that.
I fucking hope it is good quality for that price.
I have tried an iphone a google pixel is way better built or pretty much any other similarly priced android.

Wow it’s true. Linux users are like vegans. You never have to wonder because they’ll tell you they are whether you care or not
- I mean, you're on Lemmy, where a great number of Linux users gather.
Are you all 12? Why do people care what technology someone else prefers to use?
Galaxy Brain: triple boot hackintosh.
We mostly show pride in how pretty we can make our desktop look

"Apple users" is a bit harsh, the fans can definitely get this culty but it's not like the functional-but-overpriced hardware is literal shit. Someone else said NFT "investors", I'd go for fashion people who spend hundreds on a sweatshop-produced t-shirt which just has the logo of the company that's ripping them off on it (which to be fair does describe some people's relationship with Apple!)

- Ho ho ho, what a funny joke item.
Eh, it’s the cult of personality that goes with the CEO, too. Jobs worshippers, Musk worshippers, whatever. Defending billionaires and corporations that don’t even know the person’s name, or care.
- Steve Jobs has been dead for years and I barely hear anyone mention him these days.
True. Nfts fit this better.

Every whale in a P2W game.

So what you're saying is that low level workers are socialised to feel like lesser (even though the pandemic really proved who actually matters in the scheme of the whole job system) and also feel trapped by the design of the employment system, under capitalism and angrily try to take some ground back by having just one nice thing, bought with the feeling of pride, but are actually accidentally buying into the system that oppresses them.

Yes. Pride in materialism is a horrible vice to fall for.

I want to break free off APPLE and I can’t because I love this app called CLIPS.

It’s a video editing app that allows me to hold down the button and take a few seconds of video. Lift finger, video stops recording. Hold button down again and the next clip connects to previous. And so on. Also a ton of great filters.

Addicted to it.

Please show me the android alternative.

Not kidding. I can stop being a shit eater for this.

Don't most camera apps have a pause button you can use while filming that gives the same result? Or am I missing something?
Samsungs have this built in natively. Press record. Press pause to pause. Press record for more. Press stop to finish.
If you want the exact UX, then I dunno.
- I just checked and my Pixel 7 Pro has it too.
- Vastly superior to Apple UX — must be why they invented this CLIPS app
https://alternativeto.net/software/shotcut/about/
Maybe? I dunno, I've never used either.
What? You mean iPhones can't pause while recording a video and then continue recording... or is there some other utility I'm missing about this Clips app?
- Clips app is pretty fancy. I’ve only really used it for this functionality and haven’t seen anything that does what it does.
snapchat director mode?
- Do you know if it allows downloading to my camera roll and uploading to anywhere but Snapchat?

Haha le apple bad

Bluechecks

I wish people didn't care what technology other people choose to buy.

that's one of the arguments I saw in favour of sync

Any company that lets me take control of my hardware and software is welcome to me

Yeah not Apple. They limit you to their ecosystem while Android lets you do literally whatever the fuck you want. Don't want to pay for an app in the app store? Then don't. Don't want to use the default home screen environment? Then change it. I could go on but I mean it's pretty obvious at this point.
- Yep. I've been an Android girl since the beginning. The only Apple product I ever had was a free iPad my husband's job gave us because they were pushing Apple products on everyone because that's how they spy on everyone. Oh but Android spies on us too but at least we have all the benefits you mentioned above.
"We decided this app is too old for your device, so it is disabled with no way of enabling it"
~Sinisterly Apple

People who smoke.

I am a kind of laptop addict. I sell and purchase laptops every 6 months or so. I've tried everything on the Windows side, and have had the most beautiful machines in my possession, but they all had some critical flaw that made me look at my work laptop (Macbook Pro M1) and think... "I get it"

They currently have a monopoly on the best computing experience, that's why it costs so much. The developer experience is 10 times better than Windows, but it's doesn't suffer the lack of software support that Linux does. It has the best battery life BY FAR of any laptop, which is important to people like myself who find themselves working on trains and planes. And the overall build quality and performance is so good that it can be resold 5 years later for 75% of the original price.

This has to be some kind of joke, right? I have an M1 macbook through my job and it is absolutely horrible. For starters, the file system is absolutely horrible and "dumbed down" and requires you to learn special button-combinations to even find files, the UI in general is "form over function" times 100, and ooooh the horror of not having snappable windows. Also the fan is horribly loud and is often at 100% due to the terrible thermals. Sounds like a jet engine.
I've had it for over 2 years now and use it daily but it still feels like I have to battle and force it to be able to do what I want. The trackpad is nice though!
- I have not heard the fans once in over a year of heavy use, I'm starting to doubt they exist. Fan noise is a far more prevalent issue with Windows machines so I'm very curious to know how you've managed to convince the fans to spin up at all, let alone at a high volume.
  No window snapping is a glaring omission, but easily resolved with a 3rd party app.
  Fortunately as a programmer I hardly use Finder, but yes it's not very intuitive.
  I could list fifty problems each with Windows, Mac OS and Linux, but am comfortable enough with all of them because I adapt to their weaknesses (the ones that can be adapted to anyways).

The “omg I haet Apple guys” cult is much stronger than the supposed “wow I love Apple” cult.

Maybe here specifically. But there are a lot of real people (mostly young women and teenagers but not exclusively) that would never consider coming to Lemmy or even reddit when that was a thing, who refuse to get close to anyone that doesn't have the "blue" text
Meanwhile on Reddit /r/apple regularly makes frontpage and /r/technology /r/gadgets only make frontpage if it's related to apple. And windows and Microsoft news is barely ever relevant
- Makes sense as iPhones beat Android in market share in the US, and there is only one manufacturer compared to half a dozen for Android phones. I just think the “omg apple worshipping fanboy” thing is a bit outdated. Most people don’t care that much.

The only thing that is shit about iPhones besides the price is ENROLLING THEM IN FUCKING MANAGEMENT SYSTEMS. Verizon, answer my fucking requests for auto enrollment. Fuck Apple Configurator 2.

You’re voluntarily using DEP in ABM, it’s not forced on you by Apple. What you’re complaining about is only tangentially related to Apple and unrelated to this post. Imagine complaining about a thing that keeps you employed.
- How is it voluntary? From what I read I need to use DEP and ABM to put apple products into things like an MDM unless the carrier I'm purchasing from approves some sort of auto enrollment form.
  And I have plenty to do at my work place without enrolling iphones into mdms

I assumed this was about Twitter blue checks, I think I prefer that interpretation.

It can be about most premium services nowadays thanks to enshittification.

You sound like a poor piece of shit /sarcasm

Everything is commodified, even shit

Ah shit here we go again...

What if I told you that they cost the same amount, but windows users are subsidized via in-OS advertising.

I mean, decades ago, I would agree with this meme but these days… windows needs to be put down.

I've never seen a single ad in windows. I keep hearing they are coming... But so far it's just a few predatory practices failing to convince me to use their stupid browser.
- Same,this starts to look like paranoia imo.
- What about the ads in the start menu? For candy crush or tiktok
- Have you ever opened the start menu? There are ads there. Unless you’re using some release like LTSC or have a network-level Adblock there are ads in there. For TikTok, candy crush, Disney+, etc. it’s like the preinstalled bloat on some androids, they’re just ads you have to annoyingly remove from your start menu.
- What’s your secret? One quick way to see ads is to click on the weather in the bottom right corner. I have done all of these things but, like the commenters in that link have mentioned, none of them work.
- Which they've only been doing for... checks watch...30 years.
The difference is Windows users can install Linux or disable advertising
- Mac users can also install windows or linux.
  You really cannot disable windows advertising. each windows update brings more ads, more tracking and less options for controlling them. There are tools to disable ads, like windows AME but those disable windows updates, which you’re going to want to have for security updates.
  If you know of a better way to disable advertising I am all ears. I run windows, mac and linux daily and really wish I didn’t have to use windows, or could at least use it closer to how I use linux. I’ve heard that even group policies are not respected. I can’t imagine how much time and money has been lost using windows in a corporate environment just due to ads as distractions.

Tell me how you really feel

Imagine being loyal to a corporation/brand.

Coming from Windows for decades, my M1 Mac is the most stable, battery sipping machine I've ever had. Shrug...