MAGA supporter feeling gaslit
MAGA supporter feeling gaslit
She says a lot more but my eye rolling made me stop reading after the first five sentences
https://xcancel.com/ImBreckWorsham/status/1986436503988297774#m
MAGA supporter feeling gaslit
She says a lot more but my eye rolling made me stop reading after the first five sentences
https://xcancel.com/ImBreckWorsham/status/1986436503988297774#m
I cannot bring myself to believe that this is real. The only way I can believe someone so eloquent of a writer would believe Trump is if they are in on it and it seems she's not a billionaire. Also, I don't think people who would vote for Trump 3 times would ever have the ability to reflect and change their view on him.
If they would be capable of that, we wouldn't be here in the first place.
100%. Rightwingers believe people who use welfare are mostly undeserving except the occasional outlier. They'd more easily accept that the dems simply won't let Trump release the Epstein list or some conspiratorial nonsense than call it the Epstein shutdown. This is a lib doing a "How do you do fellow cultists".
The moment she expressed concern for people who weren't her, or directly related to her, was what broke the suspension of disbelief for me.
The belt got tighter and tighter until it started to hurt them personally. Then they started to reflect.
Don't doubt the human capacity for self reflection deception. I've met quite a few of articulate imbeciles who voted orange.
Edit: deception. Self deception. Autocorrupt got the best of me.
Kelsey Grammar, who player Frasier and the X-man Beast, is famously a Trump asslicker.
Edit: deception. Self deception. Autocorrupt got the best of me.
This shit is why I never use autocorrect. It's way too easy to end up saying this kind of absurd garbage, some typos and typing slightly slower can never be as bad as that. And I'm already the type who might forget a "not" and thus say the complete opposite of what I intended ...
For me it was how easily they slipped in the phrase "Epstein shutdown" that gave it away. That just seems so clearly phrased by someone who always hated Trump cosplaying as victim of a face eating leopard.
If you haven't had the "pleasure", talk to a Republican in real life. This is how they think...
I talk to them daily. This is not how they think. They didn't ever stop to think that maybe they were wrong.
I frequently chat with my neighbor who is a Q-class Trumper. Over the past year, I've been able to observe the leopards licking his face as if I were filming a nature documentary in 4k. We actually get along great. I like having a window into whatever inane, batshit information he consumes, and he really enjoys my company, as I don't outwardly judge him, and I listen. Naturally, he's on disability and dependent upon the state. As such, he's running low on funds and needs to move in a couple months.
We had elections this past week in my state. I told him that I voted, and he offered up some excuses as to why he can't make it to the polls. We tend not to directly discuss politics, because I told him a long time back that I'm still salty about Bernie. Deep down, he knows that we don't align, but he doesn't want to rock the boat. I give his pets treats. I give him treats. He occasionally mentions various religion-based conspiracies and alludes to looming conflict and the criminality of the left, but he's become more mum on this front. I think, the gears may be turning in his head.
I don't have any grand insights with which to conclude my anecdote. I give the guy a 30-70 chance of rediscovering reality. But, by being nice to the dude, I do think his chances are much better than they would be had I ignored him the past few years.
But your story just continues to show that nobody with such strong opinions seem to care until it directly effects them. In your case, it sounds like they are right on the border of realizing this. It just sucks that this is what it takes for them to even consider this.
It's tragic, yes. But, don't underestimate the effects of propaganda, repeat exposures that dwarf my face time with the guy. He doesn't have my range of experience. He's just a lonely, 50-something man that's had more negative than positive experiences in life. He has tunnel vision.
In my mind, he's responsible for his choices and frame-of-mind. But that's not going to stop me from sharing my perspective without confronting or proselytizing. Insecurity is a mother fucker.
But your story just continues to show that nobody with such strong opinions seem to care until it directly effects them.
Yeah. I've been considering that it's a bit like the difference between empirical and theoretical physicist.
The theoretical physicist uses models of how the world works to make predictions about the outcome of experiments. The empirical physicist has to do experiments to believe it. It's kinda the same for people in politics.
Some people can predict what outcome certain policies are going to have. Others have to figure it out experimentally.
What's the best way to teach a kid to not play with fire?
People who are below average intelligence take a lot longer time process new information and tend to hang onto myths much longer than smart people. Smart people can adapt to new information whereas these folks just can't. They are susceptible to being gaslit because they can't think critically. Personally, I don't think people below a certain intelligence level should be permitted to vote.
You may not realize it but you're humanizing "the left" for him. Its probably keeping him somewhat grounded.
Heh, oh I do realize that. I'd not say I'm being strategic, but I am being intentional. One of the reasons I chose to live where I currently do is to expose myself to that subset of the population. I don't have a car, and one of the (internalized) benefits is creating opportunity to chat with a broad spectrum of people. I hope this doesn't sound like I'm tooting my own horn, but I consider myself to be a student of perspective. Many years ago, after university, I joined the Peace Corps. I have direct experience building relationships with folks whose beliefs blind them. I just find it tragic that we seem to be careening toward conflict when it's all so eminently avoidable. So, I try to spread a little grassroots goodwill.
I'd add, I wish that we in America had some form of compulsory or strongly-encouraged foreign service not related to war.
Is this not normal? If you treat people kindly and with respect, they're more likely to respect you back and treat you kindly. This common courtesy establishes a level of trust where others are more willing to listen to what you have to say. This is the only way people can ever change their minds.
I have never seen any instance of anyone changing their minds because others were demonizing them and making fun of them. I feel like the people who advocate for others to be dicks to people like this guy tend to be major assholes themselves, and these people are big part of the problem. Yet that views is becoming more and more common. So props to you for treating this guy like person, you might think much of it, but your interactions with him might very well be the reason why he even has the chance of coming around.
you're honestly one of the best. I wish I could have that kind of patience even just for my own family let alone others.
Cute, but of course it's fake, a 'feel-good' post for the left. Some of the phrasing ('we see you', 'Sit down', etc) exposes this as someone on the left impersonating a magat. MAGA simply does not talk like that.
Look at the profile and timeline. It's all anti-trump, anti-repub stuff, just done in a way to sound like coming from a conservative POV. No posts bashing Democrats which a real maga account would definitely have.
Maybe, but there is a genuine shift among the right where they're turning against Trump. Trump has been relevant in politics for a decade, and I have never, ever seen a bigger uproar against him within the right than when refused to release the Epstein files. That was the very first time that I thought "oh shit, this is different"
Republicans do not hold a monopoly on bashing the democrats. The republicans dont even do a good job of it.
Everyone hates getting taxed, idk how ppl cant come together on taxing the ultrawealthy more so we get taxed less, they just avoid it entirely, idk how mfs still believe in trickle down economics
because I'll be a billionaire one day too. just gotta finish pulling up these bootstraps
There would be no incentive to become a billionaire if you have to give away 0.1% of it! It only grows at like 8% a year in the first place! 😭😭😭
Basically the ultra-wealthy are presented like a superstar, like a celebrity in american media. That way, everybody wants to identify with them, and that causes the thought that if they have more wealth "that's good for all of us" because they identify with them.
It's basically because they have superstar status that people worship them. That's what this is all about.
You don’t need taxes if the government owned a few key assets that actually generated profit.
The only reason we have taxes is because we decided long ago that only private enterprise should make money.
She'll forget about her 'outrage' in a week ot two, then go back to praising all his 'wisdom and leadership'.
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE be Compassionate! She THOUGHT that by Electing Trump ONLY Trans and Brown kids would be Hurt! She NEVER Thought Jesus Trump would go after WHITE People too! Be NICE!
See a normal person would see this as opportunity to bring this person over to their side. This could be an opportunity to explain to this person that this is how other people feel too, that her she's not alone in her rejection of Trump, and that she's better off joining everybody else in the fight for everyone instead of just for some.
However, a deranged person would see this as opportunity to mock and belittle this person for changing their view because they view people as inherently evil.
I think I might have cancer from reading some of the responses. And then clicking through to their profiles.
It's truly astounding the things these people believe.
And they believe the same things about us.
We have an actual war on truth and objective facts in this country, and it's being waged by billionaires that control the narrative to pit us against each other. American media is a goddamn propaganda farm run by a dozen or so Goebbels.
All the MAGA morons I know are totally fine with what is going on
They will be, until they are personally affected
It's the party of pure selfishness, they do not understand empathy. Until they themselves are affected at all, they won't understand .
That video Don't be a Sucker should be mandatory yearly viewing. It won't solve everything but people would learn to better recognize the divide and isolate patterns.
Or maybe not. Humans are complicated.
This is the case for most people. People change their opinions when they're personally affected because first hand personal experience is as real as its going to get.
Many aren't, they are disappointed he isn't going harder :(
Italian-American 🇮🇹🇺🇸 & all that implies?????? America ONLY.
So proud of your immigrant inheritance, but no other immigrants allowed? Or is it just the brown folk you have a problem with?
There is no way this is a real person right? Please tell me this isn't a real person?
Unfortunately very expected. Italian Americans easily forget they used to be called guinea, dago, wop, when they go around calling other people towelheads. There's no cognitive dissonance when they think they've figured out their position in the hierarchy.
And who knows, they might see the day where they help those words make a comeback.
Poe's Law is strong with this OP.
Aww she developed her first thought
Why are they complaining? After all, they didn't vote for the orange rapist because he would do anything for the little people, but because he is a racist and just as dull-witted and intolerant as they are themselves—that was so important to these people that they voted for him against their own interests.
Now they don't want to pay the price, but claim they voted for him because they supposedly believed, against all common sense and against the advice of even their own families, that he would stand up for the people? No one believes that.
I do believe that. More often than not, people believe what they want the truth to be, not what the actual truth is.
This person obviously falls for propaganda quite a bit. And the right spends a lot of time painting the left as an evil force that hates them and wants to destroy them and their children. So even if Trump is not as pristine as she'd wish, still better than the left who literally wants to destroy her children and force them to be trans (or whatever the current narrative is).
I'm not saying the vile racists are not a significant portion of their voters, I'm just saying that these well meaning but severely misguided people are a huge portion of their voters as well.
And by lumping them together you're basically forcing them to adopt the extreme views so that they belong somewhere. And that's how you create more extremists, because you tell them "either you're with us or with them." And with the (wrong) information they have, they can never choose you.
I'm not saying to tolerate intolerance, but ask any psychologist how successful can you be in forcing people to change their view. You have to guide them so that they discover the answer alone. And unlike the really bigotted people, people like her can be guided.
Of course, it is commendable to believe in the good in people, and there are certainly those who are simply so gullible that they believe the mindless far-right propaganda despite all its obvious contradictions.
In this case however, which seems to me to be typical of the current behavior of many MAGA demagogues, I think that it is just a matter of pure selfishness, of self-preservation: the regime is losing credibility even among its loyal supporters because it is going too far with its criminal activities and its boundless greed. It seems only fitting to me that those opportunists who, like this lady, have loudly supported it for a long time are now trying to portray their support as a naive misstep. That's also how it was before the Nazi regime was overthrown in Germany: suddenly, no one wanted to be a Nazi anymore because then, of course, they would have had to answer for all the crimes they had made possible or even participated in themselves.
Furthermore, I have no tolerance for intolerant people. I don't think that's a contradiction, because I believe that people's freedom ends where it interferes with the lives of others. There must be good reasons for this – for example, when the actions of individuals pose a danger to the general public. Blind racism or intolerance towards minorities who simply want to live their lives cannot be such a reason. That's why I have no sympathy for people who think it's okay to impose their twisted worldview on others—I can't muster any sympathy for them and want nothing to do with them, especially since it's pointless to try to have a rational discussion with them, as this post shows (she lost friends and family just to support some hardliner party who couldn't care less - and that is because she just would not see reason).
I realize, of course, that in the US in particular, due to the sheer number of deeply racist and poorly educated citizens, it is necessary to build bridges, but I still think that people like this woman or MTG should not be accommodated. The reason: with their ideology, from which they are unwilling to deviate, they are a danger to the general public, to democracy, and especially to the groups against which their blind hatred is directed.
It is simply impossible to work with people who are so deluded. I think it would be dangerous to respond to them with anything other than strict rejection, because that would only reinforce their unshakeable conviction that their ideology and inhuman actions are even remotely acceptable.
You are right, of course, that democracy requires discussion and a willingness to compromise, but that is not possible with this kind of MAGA cultists because they refuse to accept rational arguments. IMO this disqualifies them as discussion partners, since rationality is a fundamental prerequisite for reasonable, productive discourse and thus for any democratic process.
So I don't think that strictly rejecting deluded extremists will lead to further extremism. Rather, I think that extremism can only be stopped by strictly excluding people like this woman from the discourse – anything else will only lead to the discourse sinking to their level, as has unfortunately long been the case not only in the US.
In short, I think we have tried long enough to keep extremists in check by treating them with understanding—this has led to the situation in which not only the US finds itself today. I don't think we should keep this up.
Edit: By "these people," I don't mean conservative voters in general, but only demagogues like this woman, who poison the discourse with their loudly expressed hatred by spreading racist slogans and untruths instead of presenting arguments. I think the woman's post, if it is genuine, says very clearly what kind of person she is.
This person obviously falls for propaganda quite a bit
I see this defence often, would you defend German Nazis similary, she's the banality of evil writ large.
I don't see people falling for Bernie Sanders "propaganda" ? Why cant she be sane, be "conned" into sane politics designed to help people?
She's a stupid racist, shit stain is why..
it works because right wing propaganda have to keep repeating the lie constantly to make it stick. Dems dont do that.
But people do vote for them thinking that they would help the little people, that the minorities are actually evil or hurting their country
If people didnt believe lies, there would be no reason to say those lies. There would be no people who change their political ideology
Yes, that's why there must be legal and social consequences for people who systematically and continuously spread lies. If a democracy is to function even remotely, we cannot let them get away with it, forgive them for their actions, or dismiss them as harmless campaign tactics.
Otherwise, exactly what we are experiencing will happen: political discourse is moving further and further away from its purpose, which is to negotiate compromises based on the exchange of (rational and factual) arguments.
It goes without saying that marketing, charisma, and rhetoric are part of this, but deliberate misinformation is something else entirely.
One example: Trump's claim during the presidential debate that foreigners eat pets—this is a blatant lie with no basis whatsoever. It is unacceptable that this was not immediately clarified.
Trump has been acting this way throughout his entire career, and he can do so because no one is prosecuting him for it, at least not in a way that would prevent him from doing so. He has already been ordered to pay high fines for defamation, but he will probably never pay them – and even if he did, it would not stop him from continuing in exactly the same way.
Anyone who votes for him anyway is either misinformed because of all the lies or has other motives.
fall for it once or twice shame on them, for fore it more than 3 times shame on the person.
That tardigrade is clearly playing a tiny cello, and not a tiny violin.
Interesting that you managed to quote an alternate universe version of this post where she started having an aneurysm half way through
it's probably OCR (optical character recognition) software messing up again.
You gotta start proofreading before posting.
but the gaslighting stops nowAm I the asshole?
Yes, yes you are
If only she had come to this realization NINE YEARS AGO
If she saw the future she'd still vote for Trump. The core ideology is something she agrees with and is happy with many of the policies being carried out. She's just not happy about the random way it is being carried out that is leading to collateral damage to groups of her kind that weren't supposed to be affected.
I mean better late than never. Though it should be pointed out, that her rejecting Trump doesn't mean that her beliefs changed, just that she's Trump for the liar that he is.
Regardless of this woman's issues, her finally coming around is a good sign. Let them finally crawl out of the cult pit.
When someone leaves a cult, ya got two choices. Accept them or reject them. If you reject them they'll just run straight to another cult
She voted 3 times for a racist idiot. The last time she knew he was also a pedo.
I may have missed some posts, but I didn's see a word about deportations tearing apart families. She's cool with that. She's angry because Trump hurt the "wrong gmoups". He was supposed to hurt only some other groups.
Fortunately for me, I don't live in the US, I am not a US citizen, and I don't have to "accept her".
I bet she will rally behind the next guy promising to hurt "others", but posing as anti-Trump because he hurt some "good" Americans.
My god Twitter is cancer
Calling it the Epstein Shutdown is gold.
She's an absolute mark, truly gullible, likely extremely racist and afraid of everything.
The problem with cases like this is often they still only vote republican because the scariest things to them (gay people, brown people) are always gonna be the scary people.
The best somebody like this will do is not vote. Keep in mind how dumb this person is and the fact she probably has a pile of guns.
Keep in mind how dumb this person is and the fact she probably has a pile of guns.
i feel like this is a strange correlation. one of the smartest people i know is a licensed gunsmith. he has more guns than Jesus Christ (vampire hunter, esq.) and is further left than me.
I'm rather saying "they let people this crazy buy guns" and wouldn't it be nice if folks had to fill out a few more forms to get a gun license or something.
Give everything for the rich elite. The rich elite give nothing in return. A tale old as time.
I'd say the rich elite leave a vacuum behind, and that sucks.
I get all of the comments here. I understand the anger and distain that so many of you are feeling over the current state of things. I share in many of the frustrations and anger.
But it depresses me that Trump won't run for office again. He will be replaced by someone and the entire pool of former Trumpers will see that person and think that they can do all the things they hoped that Trump would do.
Even if Trump exits office without doing any further significant harm, the people who have made these kinds of revelations, like in the OP, will probably still vote for the same party, in spite of it all. Sure, they may never vote for Trump again, but they'll never get the chance to anyways, so who cares?
This was calculated.
Don't be surprised if the next candidate follows the same playbook as Trump, and don't be surprised if the MAGA crowd falls for it again.
The only way forward, to ensure that this kind of damage is stopped, is to rally together in sufficient numbers to ensure that these folks don't get into office any more. The absentee voters need to get out and vote.
I am confident that the numbers would work out if we could get enough people to the voting booth.
It took her rather long to arrive to that conclusion...
I really thought the fat pedophile, dumb racist reality star is what america needed. The second time, the fat pedophile, dumb racist reality star is really gonna keep his promises. The third time, the fat pedophile, dumb racist reality star surely is not gonna just lie again.
Alright, just 3 or 4 more times, but then i'm really slowly gonna lose patience.
I really don't understand how these people manage to dilute themselves into believing he'd be any different to the first time he was in office.
The fact that her username is The Patriotic Blonde really just tells you all you need to know. She's got no personality at all, she has one character trait, and it may not be all that interesting but nonetheless, her entire life revolves around it.
dilute themselves
The fact that her username is The Patriotic Blonde really just tells you
…that the whole thing was probably never a real person posting their actual thoughts to begin with?
Well they believed in the rationale and prescription for what he claimed to achieve so there's a lot of scope there to forgive failure to meet targets because as they see it, there's a mountain of opposition and sabotage standing in the way of making America great again so if what he said we was going to do didn't happen and if the way he said he'd do it didn't work it's not really a challenge to either what Trump claims should be done nor how he should do it, it only highlights to supporters how difficult that task is and how strong their support needs to be.
This kind of thing, one of the duped expressing regret - I think is probably one of the most effective ways of bursting the MAGA bubble and letting at least a tiny bit or reality set in. It doesn't challenge the things the supporters think are wrong with their country nor directly challenge the methods for remedying it, but it would introduce that little kernel of doubt for at least a few people without coming from "libtards" or in some way seeming to criticise the beliefs that led them to their current situation. She'd be dismissed of course; a paid shill no doubt, or a crisis actor or just a traitorous member of the flock who didn't have the faith or conviction necessary, but if this kind of thing shows up a lot and gets loud enough it might stand more of a chance than any critique of MAGA or Trump if there ever was really any hope of such processes having meaningful impact.
That said, even if that worked, it'd do little to address systemic issues that gave rise to MAGA and in any case if the MAGA cultists take this gentle out without need to re-evaluate the thinking that got them there then really it'd just end up being that Trump was only bad for failing to do what he promised not because what he promised was reprehensible and how he planned to do it absurd and illogical so they'll be prime for the picking for the next Trump hydra head to take his place.
Translation:
I am personally being affected by my choices, and no one will help me because I am a terrible, selfish person who chose to ignore everyone telling me to stop, and now they've washed their hands of me and I'm all alone and scared. Waaaaaaaaaaaa 😭
I dont think MAGA are human at this point.
You're better than this. Act like it.
Is he not doing to the brown people and the gays what she voted for him for, though?
I heard someone say that Trump is the most honest (or the first honest) president and at first it made me mad, but then I realised he is doing exactly what he said he'd do. He went after brown people and he's attacking what he calls "woke" culture (which is really just civil rights). He is also striving to make America great again — for rich white men. He never said he'd make it great again for the working class. Just for guys like him and Epstein and the like.
He never said he’d make it great again for the working class.
I kind of doubt that. If nothing else, he definitely implied that all his bullshit policies would improve conditions for white male working class members.
Well, at least she seems to acknowledge that other people are hurting as well and it’s not the usual „I’m affected and now I see it’s wrong“ spiel. I mean, people have hard times changing but some do.
I mean, it's exactly that or else she would have come to this conclusion much sooner.
That's what jumped out at me too. Shoulda figured it out in 2016, but at least the straw that broke the camel's back was the suffering of others, not the social repercussions she's already endured.
Replacing First-past-the-post voting will allow the people to elect a better conservative party then the republican or democrats. It would even end the disenfranchisement of those not represented by the two party system.
Who could possibly be against that? Republicans? Of course! But how about the democratic party? Do they support democracy? If history can help predict rhe future, the answer is "fuck no, fuck you, vote how I want or else".
Feeling free yet?
STAR voting
Video has been deleted.
Alternative vote
Ranked Choice voting
Why are these presented as different systems? The Alternative Vote is just another name for Instant Runoff Voting. And ranked choice voting is a name for a whole class of systems which includes IRV, as well as Single Transferable Vote and some others not linked here, but in practice someone who says "ranked choice voting" usually means IRV, and it's IRV that the video describes.
I would have welcomed reformed Trumpers back into polite society prior to the 2024 election. But seriously, to anyone who flips NOW: fuck you. I’m glad you finally woke up or whatever, but fuck you for putting us in this situation.
How do we even know if they are actually reformed and won't go and vote for the next Trump who they believe will be more strategic about who they hurt so the right kind of people are left unaffected?
Expressing disapproval of Trump doesn't mean they disagree with many of the things he is doing, since he has so far been truthful on all the things he said he'd do starting with wanting to be a dictator and Project 2025. Nothing is a surprise.
Only surprise is they thought only illegals and minorities would be affected, and that's still something they want.
Very very true.
It's a game, you've been played
It's the fox, you're the sheep
It's a pied piper song
That has lulled you to sleep
It's a lie and you fell for it
Hook, line, and sinker
A hand that you shook
That then gave you the Finger
A fraud and a fake
A cowardly king
A LIE to your FACE
But you STILL KISS THE RING
This is the Breakdown!
ThIS is ThE BREAkDOWn!!
tHIS iS the bREAKDOWWWWN!!!
A year or two ago I would have felt sorry for her.
Now I have absolutely zero sympathy.
The economy is doing great! -Trump
Maybe if I beg the leopard to stop eating my face, it will listen.
If the revolution ever comes, they should not be forgiven.
The reason why history closed the chapter of tankies pretty firmly in the 20th century is because it became apparent to people all over the world that the revolution is fueled by hateful, spiteful, and ignorant individuals like you who seek vengeance, destruction, and misery under the guise of dreamy ideals. In other words you and Trump aren't too different in this regard.
I do not seek vengeance, but that does not mean forgiveness.
We must build a better world without their input or consent. we must have a world where everyone is free and have access to a dignified life. But that does not mean to forgive them let alone forget what they did. They should have access to the same lives everyone else have access to, but they will do so without friends, without family, with everyone spiting them. They have proven themselves to be selfish sociopaths, and even if you were to be foolish enough to forgive them, you should not forget that they are selfish and will likely throw you to the wolves if it benefits them.
This is for the average MAGA voter. for those who joined ICE, or were Pundits, or directly involved in the regime. Jail. Do you think we should have pardoned everyone in the Nuremberg trials?
LMAO. Suffer, bitch.
Ain't wrong. But this is bullshit.
Agreed. Too good to be true.
Not a single phonetic-based misspelling? Such lies.
I would love (well...not really "love") to see the rest of that tweet as I expect them to say something along the lines of "...but I still love you and believe in you and how much you love America yadda yadda"...
This is the "Turning Point USA" we need.
I cant even upvote this. I can't amplify cult members who still talk to their cult leader as if he's all-knowing and actually reads their pleas. Trump is an old granpa whose family refuses to accept he needs medical care and supervision. This poor victim praying to him isn't schadenfreude, it's sad.
And she'll magically forget her grievances tomorrow and go back to sucking Trump's unwiped asshole.
Rinse and repeat.
Trumpers often get these brief moments of consciousness and self awareness only for it to magically fade away a moment later. Typical mental cycle for people with severe dementia.
Our little victim doesn't even know basic vocabulary. This was not "gaslighting". It was plain old "lying". Simple, easy to spot, as long as you try.
who could have seen this coming??????
Leopards saw it coming and took out the fine china!
Wait they can recognize when they're being slapped in the face?
Dear @POTUS,
Yeah, it's a cult. Why would the fucking president of the United States care to personally read your message and change his policy based on that?
Because God does it all the time. Duh.
"I thought I could get through this without using my Critical Thinking Skills because thinking is HARD, but now you forced me to actually use my brain, and I DON'T LIKE IT! I WANT TO BE STUPID!"
Everyone has a breaking point. Amazingly she had enough only after all that. Ignorance is bliss I guess.
Maybe all of you on Lemmy see this and sigh, but there's a lot of MAGA supporters out there who might need to see this.
They would most likely claim this is dem fake news and/or put the responsibility of her demise on her.
Does she ever take any responsibility for her own actions?
If she had that basic common sense she would have never been maga
You're probably right. It's only a small step from saying she worked on his campaign to understanding that she had a role in it and therefore some responsibility, but yeah. One small step for normal people, one giant leap for MAGA.
She's a republican voter, so of course not
the leopards are having a good time with this one. nice!
These people still have no ability for self reflection. They refuse to see they were bamboozled by a con man, that them loosing all their friends and family should have been the sign they needed to reevaluate, but their "lord and saviour" told them what they wanted to hear and their smiling glad hands just ate it all up like WE were the crazy ones. Yes dear, the stranger on the TV that wants your money has your best interests in mind, not your sister/brother/BFF.
Those damn leopards man.. can't keep em from eating faces.
When exactly are children starving through their own fault?
Social media posts mean absolutely nothing.
oh no! my actions have consequences??? OH NO!
Why would I listen to a dumb bitch?
Such a moronic cunt.
Patriotic but only to one particular citizen America as a whole can get in the bin that's the real American patriotism
I can excuse racism and pedophilia, but my financial wellbeing is where I draw the line!
Man, I mean, that kind of is the ugly truth, isn't it? Some people actually can excuse racism and pedophilia if it means there's a shot at personal gain. I'm not surprised, really, just wholly disgusted.
I know right? The dude said “Grab them by the pussy. You can do anything” and ”I moved on her like a bitch.”
When I heard that during his first campaign, I thought he was done, no one could possibly accept such deplorable behavior, right?
…and here we are.
And it's worse, just today I was reading
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/nov/11/milan-prosecutors-investigate-alleged-sniper-tourism-during-bosnian-war
In the best scenario this is a wedge in what they believe. "If he lied about this... is he lying too about the rest?"
He has lied about so much and been proven wrong, so sadly I doubt anyone will take that away from this
You really nailed it with this, thank you.
The thing is that a there's actually a pretty big divide among MAGA now. Ever since Trump and his admin refused to release the Epstein files like promised, there's a very big chunk of MAGA who went in uproar and rejected Trump. That chunk of MAGA which I would say is maybe around 1/3 of the base is disenfranchised because while they're still MAGA in their beliefs, they no longer view Trump as a prophet like the rest of the base.
oh how I wish I believed that
They became the victim.
If more people actually worked like this, we'd have fewer issues. Rightwing policies are absolutely terrible for working class people, and workers far outnumbers the groups that would benefit financially from these policies (even when the people in power are somewhat more reasonable than Trump and don't sacrifice the entire economy for their insider trading schemes).
The solution is simple, we eat the rich