Musk makes Holocaust jokes after Netanyahu defends him as ‘great friend of Israel’
Musk makes Holocaust jokes after Netanyahu defends him as ‘great friend of Israel’
Nazis siding with Israel against Jews is no great surprise at this point.
The KKK supported black separatists in the US in their goal of creating an independent state in Africa. It's almost like you can hate a group of people AND support their right to live on the other side of the world from you.
I think benji sees the utility there, and is also a fascist
The enemy of my enemy is an enema
Yup. Here's a clip of the founder of the American Nazi party donating to Malcom X and the Nation of Islam.
Authoritarian regimes stick together...at first.
He's pretty clearly intentionally taunting everyone who opposes him, just demonstrating what he can get away with. That's what all of this has been about. He might not be anti-Semitic (please don't at me -- he likely is -- I said might) and rather is just a pure troll dickhead.
Just like with some of the 4chan idiots though, there is little functional difference between being a true believer nazi and merely pretending to be one.
Tbh, he's a massive douchebag on a power trip. It wouldn't shock me at all if he wasn't anti-Semitic and is just trying to push people's buttons. At the same time, if this is true, he's also shifting the Overton window and showing what true Nazis can safely get away with in the public eye.
That said, there's a good chance he's also just an anti-Semitic neo-Nazi piece of shit...and still doing the latter part of that.
Regardless, he's a fascist either way, so fuck him.
he’s also shifting the Overton window and showing what true Nazis can safely get away with in the public eye.
This is the major fucking problem. The fat orange diaper sponge already fucked up the "what's acceptable in public" perception 8 years ago - and now we have the Apartheid-dipshit one-upping his rimjob buddy.
well in that sense (and in many others) he is literally like a five year old, testing his boundaries
These headlines are getting way out of hand.
If this goes on the ADL will be denying the holocaust be the end of the week.
"The real anti-semitism was when the allies attacked the camps on D-Day, the jews were just roasting s'mores we swear!" - The ADL
The ADL has never not been a horrifically shitty organization and has probably done more damage to Jewish culture than any other group in the last 50 years. They're effectively a bunch of quisling fucks.
Translating a comment by a Norwegian author:
as someone who once put in a lot of effort to excuse the far right etc when they maybe cross the line a little bit but probably don't really mean it so let's all calm down a bit, I've learned one thing:
the only reward you get for doing this is that they the next day bombastically step over that same line to show that they don't feel bound by your wimpy sense of decency
because the fight is against what they perceive as a wimpy, castrated centrist decency is one of the central driving forces in such groups
More people who have tried to explain away the nazi salute could probably stand to learn the same lesson ASAP. The only thing they're really communicating is that the rich & powerful can do what they want and the excusers will stay their loyal lapdogs.
His apologies mean nothing, this is literally all his fault. Entirely, 200%. No one else, not even the real Nazis!
Being a great friend of netanyahu is yet more evidence that you are a fascist
Including every Israeli protesting him? Then every American is maga. Fuck off.
Basically Homelander-Syndrome?
The tweet for those curious
Don’t say Hess to Nazi accusations! Some people will Goebbels anything down! Stop Gőring your enemies! His pronouns would’ve been He/Himmler! Bet you did nazi that coming,”
Dollars to donuts he generated that entire tweet with AI.
I feel like AI would make something more coherent than that.
AI would have used the correct german ö
As usual, he's not even funny.
I had a discussion on an industry Slack yesterday with a guy because I called Elon a nazi.
The guy brought immediately the discussion in DM and there I noticed he was wearing a kippa in his profile picture so I asked where was he from...
And he snapped and started to call me a jew hater and telling me that I wanted to bring him to the gas chambers and all the usual bullying.
Turns out the term they are using to make this connection is called Holocaust Trivialization.
I screenshot the whole discussion, blocked him everywhere I could find him (as I am doing with all Israeli people and businesses to be fair) and kept going with my life while he was still spewing insults at me.
This guy is the frontman of the most important conference in my industry.
Keep ready.
wow and is he an Elon fan too? or is he just one of those people who call everyone anti-semitist even those speaking against literal Nazi sympathisers lol
He put his hands forward and said, "I don't particularly like Musk", but really, I see no difference between the two categories you described. The Israeli narrative of not allowing to "trivialize the Holocaust" when I have just been calling the guy a nazi because he speaks, acts and supports like one is exactly the kind of wildcard that a Musk/Trump sympathizer dreams of.
As long as you don't touch the Jews (or better israel and zionists), you are in the clear.
taking notes ah so nothing says anti-Nazi more than autoblocking Jews, interesting
Zionism is the fascist movement within Judaism (although many Jews reject it being associated with Judaism at all). Being against Zionism is no more anti-Jewish than being against white supremacism is being "anti-white". That's how that actually works. Jumping to accuse anyone criticizing Zionism as being "antisemitic" is just a lazy, intellectually dishonest smear that everyone sees through, and you should stop polluting conversations with it.
Autoblocking israelis and autoblocking jews aren't necessarily the same thing. Zionists are essentially nazis. Hell, zionists collaborated with the actual 20th century nazis too. Lots of jews died because of it.
I saw someone on Lemmy post that exact comment yesterday. Either the lemming copied it from elsewhere, or musk is in the building.
Elon if you see this: you are a bad person and a bad father.
Elon, if you see this, you’re the poster child for why abortion should be protected.
Abortion isn't a "solution" to shit people. Also, the statement just supports the anti-choice claim of "murdering" babies.
Can we please stop paying attention to this jerk?
I know reposting his Tweets makes news sites money, and gets upvotes, and whatever, but for heavens sake, don't feed the trolls.
Musk is what over feeding a troll ultimately looks like.
He has the president's ear and is already contributing to wrecking the country with fascist tactics while being open about being a nazi.
We can't just ignore him anymore.
We haven't been ignoring him, obsessively covering his antics is exactly what elevated him and Trump to power, and its not going to fix anything anymore.
We are preaching to the choir when we complain about it here, and absolutely no one who needs to know is is going to see it because they're in their own little filter bubble. But it is validating X as a public platform.
We have to deplatform these people and reach out to insulated bubbles.
Now is not the time to bury your head in the sand
Can we please stop paying attention to this jerk?
No. This nazi needs to be publicly scrutinized now, more than ever.
If reporting critically on what the government and its members are up to is now "feeding the trolls", then the phrase has lost all meaning.
It's one thing to not engage with online bullies and leave them bored. It's another thing entirely to start anew with first they came for the illegal immigrants, and I didn't say anything, for I wasn't an illegal immigrant.
Absolutely not. If you think he's evil now, just wait until we stop paying attention to what he's doing.
That ship has sailed.
One of these people is basically Hitler, and the other wishes he was hitler
He's literally bragging about how he will never be questioned
Why does it say "accused" of doing a nazi salute?
Corporate news media is terrified of being sued for libel by Musk, even though it was obviously a Nazi salute. So they use words like "seemed" and "appeared" to avoid saying the obvious.
But the problem is, if you want to be taken seriously as a "news" organization, then you have to speak truth to power and that's going to make you a lot of enemies. Companys have legal departments to minimize their risk, but in the case of journalism, that department exists to get you OUT of trouble not to keep you from ever getting into it.
Yeah but it's not libel when he did it, but you're right of course, only the thought of the court case costs money nobody except him have
cause of corporate bootlickers
Because "America bad" and folks like Musk are harming America's reputation.
I know this isn't the point, but they're not even good jokes? On a technical level. Forget the subject matter for a moment, they're just bad puns that aren't very funny or creative.
Agree, but the point of these "jokes" isn't to be funny. The first objective is to offend and cause harm. The second is to phrase the offense in such a way that the offender has the option to say, "it was just a joke" when confronted by the offended. The guy has far more interest in causing harm to people than making them laugh.
Most likely had the idea to make some puns. Asked Grok and posted the responses he got. Path of least effort.
retrader simps
“Don’t say Hess to Nazi accusations! Some people will Goebbels anything down! Stop Gőring your enemies! His pronouns would’ve been He/Himmler! Bet you did nazi that coming,” Musk posted Thursday, adding laughing-face emojis.
Being a dipshit Edge Lord all the time must be exhausting. Remember "Poochie" from "The Simpsons?" Yeah, that's Elon. To the X-treme.
Wild how the only people defending Musk making a Hitler salute are a war criminal who is committing genocide and his father, who impregnated his step daughter twice.
Don’t forget there’s also the ADL, who want to equate those opposed to genocide as “anti-Semitic” and defend Musk who has been openly fascist and platforming Nazis for ages.
It's extremely disheartening that people such as this are even given the time of day in the first place. It's even more disheartening when people are getting fired for pointing out the obvious. I couldn't be more glad to have deleted my Twitter.
I think the best thing to do is just completely ignore everything the guy says. Don't feed the trolls.
I'll ignore him once he's no long relevant in the public space. Musk isn't something like the Kardashians. Politicans and CEOs are listening to him.
hey, I need my daily dose of nonsense to survive
This is in no way a defense of Elon. He is a horrible Nazi and he hates Jews and I'm a Jew.
That said, I'm not seeing where he brought up the Holocaust. He made a bunch of very offensive puns regarding Nazi leadership, but unless I missed it, nothing about the Holocaust. All the critical responses seem to mention it so maybe I'm missing it?
I guess I feel like "makes Holocaust jokes" is just unnecessary hyperbole when what he said was awful enough.
Himmler was a German Nazi leader and the chief architect of the Holocaust
-- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinrich_Himmler
His pronouns would’ve been He/Himmler!
-- Elmu
I think it's probably fair to call punning on the name "Himmler" to be a "Holocaust joke", but I can also understand if someone doesn't think it is.
So, next time Leon Hitler visits Israel, he can walk around giving the Nazi salute to the fascist Ben and the Likud Party?
Pos nazi makes jokes a nazi would? Shocked Pikachu face.
Genuinely fuck Musk. Cries he's being called a Nazi while doing everything in his power to act like one.
Nobody does a Nazi salute by accident Elon... And especially not with a face looking like he just bust a nut while doing it.
You’re not wrong, but this article is more about Netanyahu’s flexibility around ‘antisemitism.’
You know, how it’s now considered antisemitic to criticize Israel’s war crimes, but it’s totally not antisemitic to do a Nazi salute and joke about the holocaust as long as you support Israel’s war crimes?
Yeah, there is a pretty big difference between "they think we shouldn't defend ourselves" and "they think we shouldn't commit war crimes and genocide while defending ourselves". They initially had a ton of support for defending themselves after october 7th... but they turned the tides against themselves by almost immediately going way too far. It has absolutely nothing to do with who either side is ethnically or religiously or whatever, it is entirely the war crimes and genocide we want to stop.
I think they think "Nazi" or "anti-semite" is just like "bitch"; it's an insult largely divorced from its linguistic origins. So a person is a Nazi if you don't like what they're doing, and the word means nothing more.
Edit: I think people misunderstood and thought I said these guys aren't Naizs. They are. They just don't like when people call them that because they don't know how words work.
he wants to act like a Nazi, spread Nazi ideas, help implement Nazi policies, and have Nazi friends, but not being called a Nazi
He was making the Mussolini face.
I am from Rome and I support this message. Typical Piazza Venezia balcony face, which is also where M would occasionally fuck women offering themselves in admiration.