Happens once per thread
Happens once per thread
Happens once per thread
Don't normalize this shit.
Opposing viewpoints are fine. Disingenuous viewpoints that conveniently show the egregious fallacies of that viewpoint and ignore them when pointed out deserve all the criticism they get.
And we know what one specific viewpoint we're talking about. Lemmy is so deeply infested with it now with the exact same bend that it's a disgustingly obvious disinformation campaign and voter suppression tactic.
Again, don't normalize this shit.
And we know what one specific viewpoint we're talking about. Lemmy is so deeply infested with it now with the exact same bend that it's a disgustingly obvious disinformation campaign and voter suppression tactic.
You're doing the thing in the meme
And we know what one specific viewpoint we're talking about.
Dang it! I'm always out of the loop.
As am I. I'm a bit curious as to which viewpoint they're discussing.
I don't think it's bad for people to be somewhat suspicious of bots/misinformation campaigns that occur online. We do know they occur.
That said, I believe we should still try to communicate on the various media platforms in the event that there is in fact a human behind the screen.
They are either lying or deeply overexposed to only one portion of the platform lol. While a lot of it has to do with US electoral stuff, that is far from the only context I have seen bot accusations thrown around. Seen it on some gaming-related communities, some vegan places for some reason? It might be fair to say the mindset stems from the anger of the political subs but that’s just a guess. (:
The other important point to make:
It’s normal to view wild ideas like troves of automated users with some skepticism. But consider: Foreign entities would likely have a huge incentive to destabilize domestic elections. If you were them, and had plenty of spare personnel, and A.I. resources…what would you do?
If I were Russia or China and I had the ability to influence US elections, I would try to stabilize the country. I'd want someone predictable who I can negotiate with and reasonably expect to have agreements last more than 4 years. This is what Putin said to Tucker, by the way, explaining why he'd prefer Biden over Trump, so that he can negotiate a lasting treaty. China, with all its economic ties to the US, would likely feel the same (though with all of Biden's jingoism and saber-rattling, I don't know that there's much difference from that perspective).
Geopolitics is not a zero-sum game, and the world is more complex than moustache-twirling cartoon villains. Destabilizing the US means the most militarized country in the world acting completely unpredictably and lashing out randomly to distract from problems at home.
Also, like, it's easy to make a bot but it's harder to make a bot that actually sounds like a human being and is able to make coherent arguments. Throwing around accusations based purely on a person's stance, even when the format isn't bot-like at all, is pure paranoia. It's just a way to categorically dismiss everything you disagree with without consideration.
Also also, what about the US intelligence community? Surely they'd have both means and motive to influence political discussions, moreso on both than foreign governments. Why aren't you concerned about that? Or what about the possibility of corporations hiring people to say stuff? Wouldn't it be way easier for entities that are based on America who could hire Americans directly?
It's really a nonsense belief that falls apart under scrutiny. But what it really is is a symbolic belief. It's obviously not true but by saying it you can performatively demonstrate your loyalty to the US government and hatred of the Other. There's no evidence for it and it's unfalsifiable.
Mfs never heard the word epistemology.
Sorry I legit don't know who you are talking about
Disingenuous viewpoints that conveniently show the egregious fallacies of that viewpoint and ignore them when pointed out deserve all the criticism they get.
Nice try, Russia. But I'm not falling for it.
And we know what one specific viewpoint we’re talking about.
turns to the camera conspiratorially
Big wink
Giant thumb pointed at Joe Biden
Large okay symbol with other hand
Thumbs up with penis
Wait what
Kids these days and their AI accusations. Back in my day, we assumed people who disagreed with us were uninformed, stupid, or evil.
i (Pepperidge Farms) remember
Hey now, we have a rich tradition of calling one another paid shills. That goes straight back to the colonial era. Don't sell it short.
old reliable:
Funny, they said the same about .world!
No no, .world has the power hungry admins/mods.
Damn .ml users! They ruined .ml!
I’ve always found that rhetoric hilarious because I’d say 95% of the users I block for being shitty are from sh.itjust.works
Honestly I don't see all this hade and intolerance here on lemmy.world and i've been around since last year. Can you give me some context?
Actual context because the other comment (e: the prettybunnys one) is clearly showing some bias:
!politicalmemes@lemmy.world is constantly in turmoil against itself regarding some US electoral stuff. About once per thread (no joke) an argument gets to a point where one person accuses the other of not being human because they just can't fathom how different their positions are. This also spreads to other communities but I generally find !politicalmemes to be the primary source. (e: This also is common on .ml communities unless I am mistaken. I just am not exposed to that much since my instance does not federate with .ml.)
(Disclaimer: while funny, don't do this kind of attack without real evidence; it's generally frowned on by mods as uncivil.)
Politics turns nice people into assholes real quick.
Really? That is kind of pleasing to hear to be honest. I only ever encountered echochamber comments any of the times I went on any political thread here, one sided anchoring and confirmation bias, so I stopped. I'm kind of happy to hear that there are multiple perspectives being discussed at all. Neat.
Context:
People with overt bias and deliberate messaging are being called out for it.
Those people make posts like this.
had to scroll quite a bit to find this perspective. I’m on politics all the time, there really are a handful of “bad actors” who follow a clear agenda. yet I’ve never seen this “ur bot” response just thrown around haphazardly, rather directed at that very same handful of disingenuous propaganda posters.
Things can get heated in certain threads.
Mostly your thread and threads made as a reaction to your threads
It's pretty much limited to the Political and Israel/Palestine related subs IMO.
Don't forget to block them so that you never hear an opposing view again!
Hey now! Some are probably Russian/Chinese troll farms!
No need for that "probably"
All opinions different from mine are wrong.
Many opinions the same as mine are right, but for the wrong reasons.
there is only one opinion, all of the other opinions about everything else are wrong. Only this one is correct.
Don't worry, i won't tell you what opinion i'm talking about, because that would be another opinion, and it would be wrong, on account of the other one being the only correct one.
That’s the internet as a whole sadly
Welcome to the Internet.
have a look around
Oh cool another bot post.
I've seen post activity from a certain users from a specific group / social circle on lemmy thats way to similar
Either it's one person with a lot of alts or a coordinated effort by a group of people though with alts you can make yourself appear to be a bigger if you're one person alone
Hmm…this sounds like something that better fits on a site with R in its name. I find Lemmy pretty tolerant and diverse, in my experience.
You'd think, but after that man vs bear thing I realized this place can be just as bad. Some instances are tolerant, but other seem to be more combative and less tolerant. The only benefit here is that I can block the less tolerant instances and people more easily.
People downvoting this, only because they disagree... But I guess, however dumb it is, it does proves the comment wrong, .
I disagree you
I thought Id get away from the group think when I left reddit. It's probably worse here.
It feels way worse. Definitely agree.
Found the bot
Or ban them from the community outright.
real
I am the only person I've seen on the internet therefore everything is just bots
Who's the bot? Me? Or you?
Sounds like something a bot would say
Bots are using the narcissist's playbook: accuse others of your shenanigans.
Sounds like something a bot would say
bots evolving by projection, and you know what projects, MACHINES. its been in front of us all along.