Insanity

Its only the same if you strictly consider 'the time I stand in this line'.

Its different because everyone behind her loses a feeling of progress from moving up, and it increases the queue length (at least visually) which can impact other people's decision on which queue to join which, of course can impact the other queues.

To think the way the image suggests is to be inconsiderate to others around you.

losing a feeling of progress
Right, that's why it says perfectly rationally. If someone is really being perfectly rational they should only care about how long they wait inine, not a feeling of how long they wait. I don't think being "perfectly rational" is something folks should strive to do.
- Fuck everyone else though right? That doesn't sound rational does it? In that case why even wait in the line? Just walk to the front because that will shorten your time
- Except being rational is not void of emotional reasoning, so "perfectly rational" does not mean "thinking without any emotional logic involved whatsoever". This person isn't thinking rationally, they're just thinking very literally.
- I don't think the person's behaviour is rational at all. The queues in an airport are set up like they are for a good reason, to maximize the amount of people queuing in a given area. That is the rational behind the setup.
  The person in the picture is ruining the system based in the time being spent queueing. But she is not considering the space taken up by the queue as a whole. Not very rational.
- Not only is it the same amount of wait time, but you have to pick up and put down your suitcase less times.
But it’s just a feeling of progress not actual progress. Whether she moves or not there’s still the same amount of people ahead of you in queue. Plus it’s an airport you queue for the airline that you booked with there’s no decision of queue to impact. The only actual factor is whether or not it spills out past the barriers so she can periodically check and move if that’s the case
- The feeling of progress literally affects how our brains perceive time. We experience it passing more quickly when we are moving and feel like we are progressing. To our brains and our perception of time, it very much is the same as actual progress.
- Considering the feelings of others is a thing though, and many airlines have multiple queues even for the single airline. I guess it depends on how large the airport is but the consideration of others remains. Traveling is stressful, why add to that just because you can?
Unless they considered all of those things and only didn't move because there wasn't any point, which to me is ultimately what staying in place is about.
In that very specific situation, yes it's inconsiderate. We're missing details like how busy the airport is etc so it's a little unfair to point out though.
- the photo is from someone behind her. Even if one person is behind her then she is being inconsiderate to that person by waiting even if the other elements are not present.
- I'd argue it's always inconsiderate if there is even one person behind her
It's less work for everyone involved, because they have to pick up their things fewer times.
The length of the line is determined by how many people are in it, not how close they are standing to each other. Being up in the business of the person in front of you doesn't make anything go faster.
Also it would be beneficial to a person joining this line, because it has less people in it compared to other wines of the same apparent length.
So the only people who are actually negatively affected are the ones who join other lines. And the neurotic who get irrationally angry at seeing the gap.
- Personally I would rather pick my heavy stuff up for shorter stretches, especially if there's more than I can carry at once. Can you imagine the chaos of her moving forward 20 feet and each person behind her having to carry two bags forward 20 feet and then run back for their other bag/pet carrier/baby car seat? Especially if they don't wait for each other? Or someone tries to help but now the helpee can't say they're the only one who's handled that bag? Dragging everything 3 feet at a time is hugely preferable.
- That ONLY assumes that everyone is perfectly aware enough to not cause the line to extend out of the allotted area, AND nobody misses the fact that the front of the line moved far enough that they never cause a pause at the front. Assuming everyone has the ability to do this means that there shouldn't have been a line in the first place. (and nobody has their face in their phone, like the person in the picture)
It's not even the same if you strictly consider 'the time I spend in this line', which I would assume is to most people the time that actually matters.
Everyone behind her doesn't just lose the feeling of progress, they lose actual time (granted it's probably just a few seconds). And she loses that time also.
The actual justification here seems to be that she's busy doing something on her phone and doesn't want to be distracted every 30 seconds, which in her mind trumps the handful of seconds she and everyone behind her would gain.
Which imo would be fair enough, if you didn't have to also add the annoyance of the people behind her to the equation.
Many people standing in such queues are tired, stressed about catching their flight, or otherwise impaired and someone holding up the queue for no obvious reason can become aggravating fast.

Nah, move your ass forwards. It's no different to you right there in that point in the line.

But at the back of the line its no longer people queuing in the barriers, they have started making up their own queue which has now branched off in two directions and new people arent sure which branch to join. Other people are trying to get to something on the other side of these queues and have to squeeze past people.

I get the logic, and it's quite a good point if you have unlimited space for the queue, but stop being so entitled and move your stinky ass up the queue.

Another point is the perception of progress. We all enjoy a progress bar that gradually fills up to one that sits at 20% then jumps to 100. It reduces our anxiety.
Looks kinda empty to me in the picture
- You can't even see the line behind the lady that is stopped. We have no perspective here. Looks empty from this specific angle, but what's behind her in the line? There could be hundreds of people for all we know.

If people don't more forward, the line ends up overflowing past the stanchions and maybe even outside. It's not the same :P

5th person in line is a mile away on the side of the road outside the airport.
- The 10th is on the moon

I get it, but I'd be worried that someone approaching the queue would see the big gap and mistake it for the back of the line. Then, instead of zig zagging through from the back, they duck under the ropes in front of her. She'd have her face buried in her phone and wouldn't notice. SO, this puts me in a position of having to watch out for such an occurrence - which stresses me out.

She should just move the fuck up.

Or the queue could get so long that it is no longer within the allotted space and is now obstructing other passengers. It's true that it is the same for HER if she moves along or waits, but that is not necessarily true for everyone else.
- Yeah if more followed her logic it would be a bad scene
There's presumably people behind her so you'd have to walk past other people in line to do that.

I once got berated by a Costco employee for ducking under the queue ropes instead of zigzagging my way through. There was no one in the queue. Sometimes society needs more logical thinking.

They fear what the ropes cannot contain....
Over never seen queue ropes at a Costco, how posh was this place?
- Technically they were chains. It was back in the COVID times where they could only allow a certain number of people in the store at a time.
Did you touch or move the queue ropes when you did this? Cause I worked at a movie theatre in the past and while we didn't really care if people ducked under the ropes without touching them, if they pushed them up or unhitched them or grabbed them too hard then they often broke them because they didn't realize how delicate they could be, especially if they're older or already damaged but not quite damaged enough to replace yet. They would also often push them out of line a little bit, which adds up after a while and forced us to re-adjust them, which is kind of annoying when we keep having to fix them over and over again after busy times of the day. So after a point we just told people not to duck under them or try to go through them at all, just to avoid the possibility of them fucking the queue lines up in some way because we couldn't exactly predict who would or wouldn't touch something while attempting it. Obviously one person isn't going to do much but you wouldn't have been the only person who would have tried it that day by a long shot.
- I just ducked under. Maybe my back brushed against it when I did so but that was it. They were steel chains too if I remember well so it's not like I was going to break something. She claimed that "I could have gotten hurt" which is complete nonsense and I'm pretty sure that she made it up.
  There is a certain type of person who when they see someone do something that is different from what they are used to they feel the urge to self-righteously stop it and will invent all sorts of excuses to justify themselves doing so. They're the kind of people who call the cops on kids playing in a skate park. I'm pretty sure that was one of them.
That happened to me at the Atlanta airport. Security person saw and told me "I'll send you to the back of the line!", I said "I AM the back of the line!"

I hate it so much when people do that with their cars. It just makes the traffic jam much longer than it needs to be, possibly even extending it over the previous exit. It's not rational, it's just plain stupid and annoying.

Depends. Bigger gaps mean the traffic jam will get better faster since it reduces the stop and go. Ofc the gaps need to be reasonable but the people driving bumper to bumper make it even worse
- If everyone followed the one rule "keep as much space in front of me to the next car, as there is behind me to the next car, at all times" it would do the most to alleviate most traffic jams.
- Every time you touch the brakes on a highway, you risk fucking up the flow for countless others behind you.
- Yeah, it's really fun trying to "fix" minor traffic jams by holding back a while then moving forward very slowly. If you time it right you never catch up to the car in front, because they reach the front of the queue before you reach them. Then there's no traffic jam left behind you, because everyone is moving.
I'm kinda in between. When the car in front of me drives off and stops I'll creep slowly with my car 50% of the time I can keep a slow pace without start and stop.
- That's not a problem, in fact it even helps the flow. What I meant was when folks keep an excessive distance to the next car, like in the OP (that lady could advance like, 10 places or so, translated into car lengths that would be 50 meters).
  There are people who literally turn off their engine and don't start it again until they can go for 100 meters or more. This wastes road space and encourages lane-hopping, which also makes the traffic jam worse.
Trucks sometimes do this in major traffic jams because if you create a large enough gap and do a slow roll to close the gap, you can actually more rapidly kill the traffic jam. They get together and form a consistent gap and restart traffic at a consistent pace.

Okay but in all fairness, psychologically it isn't the same. Humans perceive time moving faster when they're moving around in line or moving while waiting for something than they do when standing still while doing the same thing. So while technically time moves the same either way from an outside perspective, mentally if you aren't moving periodically as the line moves you perceive the time as passing more slowly.

I was thinking more practically, now the line forms outside of where it's supposed and can get in the way
- That too.

It's the same for her, not for everyone behind her. She's a perfect example of thinking only of herself.

It's the same for everyone, unless they plan to jump queue.
- It's the same until the line backs up enough to be out of the roped off area.
Its the same for everyone behind her as well, unless you forgot how lines work. Id rather stand still for 5 minutes and move 15 feet than 18 inchs every 30 seconds.
- Have you never been to a busy airport before? The lines already fill the breezeway even when they move forward. What do you think is going to happen with the constant flow of people arriving at a line that doesn't move? It's going to quickly become a safety hazard.

Hyper rational in one dimension of thought.

A perfectly rational agent should choose behavior that works when other agents apply the same behavior.

If everyone uses her strategy, the queue can only get shorter if there's exactly one person left in the queue, but it gets longer each time someone joins it.

In an idealized world where everyone can instantly teleport, this doesn't technically reduce the throughput of the queue, however it does still increase its size unnecessarily. (and in the real world it also decreases throughput, potentially by a significant amount if the queue is physically long enough)
 

Even granting that she doesn't care about anyone else, the strategy is still slower for her even if she's the only one using it.

Judging from the picture, she will lose at least a few seconds when the person in front of her leaves the queue and she still has to walk the remaining distance to the front of the queue.

For a more extreme example, imagine the queue is a kilometer long. Assuming everyone before her shuffled along like the average queue enjoyer, she would now be one person-width away from the goal had she shuffled along with them.
If she used her "perfectly rational" strategy instead, she would now have to walk a full kilometer which, being very generous to her, would cost her an additional 12 minutes.

Perfectly rational behavior, if your only objective is to annoy others.
 

(there is perhaps an argument in favor of some variant of her strategy, if there is a high time/effort/opportunity cost associated with starting and/or stopping, but I think realistically this will rarely if ever be the case in an airport security queue)

I feel validated
I think you're there with the last bit of your comment. The goal isn't to only move once, the goal is to minimise stops and starts. If everyone does this is a self sorting system. If someone has the rule "try to only move forward once every x minutes (unless you are at the front or the queue overflows)" then the queue gets into a rhythm that works.
In a queue like this there is extra effort in picking up your bags and stopping so the worst case scenario is everyone moving exactly as space is available.
- Problem is that "unless the situation doesn't allow it" means you have to constantly be aware of how the situation is evolving, so you're trading "move your bag a couple extra times" for "stay hyper aware of the environment and ensure you're not starting a chain reaction of assholery" cause that can happen real quick at an airport.
Well put. There's just something about airports that turns off people's cooperative reasoning abilities. I'm sure I'm guilty in numerous ways too, but when I really focus on the little things that people do with complete disregard for others, it just makes me feel like they simply don't care about anyone else but themselves. Most of the time I'm sure I'm just being uncharitable, but other times...!
I have agreed with that first line of yours for a long time. Some of the behaviors that seem the most asshole-ish in other people are those that both would cause chaos if everybody did it, and are easy to avoid or fix.
I guess that’s why even mundane things like this lady in line or shitty parking make people stand out is such a bad way.

What is rational for YOU might not be optimal for SOCIETY. This is the first lessons taught to toddlers when they learn about social ettiquete and mores.

Lubricate don't agitate, is another neat saying. Some things just help everyone stay calm and feel in control in shitty situations, it's not the time to make edge lord points.

Had a guy losing his fucking mind behind me in bumper to bumper traffic. I always like to keep about 1.5ish vehicle length (obviously not a real metric, just a guess) between me and the person in front in case people need to switch lanes or if I'm hit from behind.

When I say the guy behind me was mad, he was fucking LOSING it. He was screaming, he was flailing his arms, he was beating on his steering wheel, he was honking a shit ton.

He eventually just cut the lane beside me and the person next to me, just to get into the 30 feet of empty space in dead slow traffic. No idea why he thought this would somehow make any difference.

I honked at him several times just to fuck with him

My father taught me to leave enough space in front of me in case of being hit, but also in case I need to get out of the line for some reason. I've had to get out of line a number of times over the years due to accidents. I have 3 routes I can take to get to work, so once I realize there's an accident I can just turn around and go another way. Works out well, but sure does piss off people behind me sometimes.
- Most importantly, you need enough space to account for your reaction speed + the time your vehicle takes to brake. On slow traffic that's one or two cars but as you approach highway speeds it's like 15, which no one observes. And higher during snow or rain.
There's something like a spring effect, you should try to keep the same distance between the car in front of you and the one behind you, watch this it's very informative: https://youtu.be/iHzzSao6ypE
- Most importantly you should do your best to drive at one, single, steady, speed, and not stop and go. In civilised countries that kind of thing gets taught in driving lessons, three or four people acting correctly can dissolve a traffic jam.
- (sidenote: the real solution to traffic is getting all the reluctant and unnecessary drivers to not take the car during rush time. I.e. providing viable alternatives to driving & the freedom to choose the means by which to go from point A to point B)
As if ..... Where's he going? That many feet changes nothing. I live in a city famous for leaving a lot of space between cars, there are memes about it. So for this thread I'll explain a couple of why's:
Me personally , it became a habit when car jackings became a possibility. A less easy target mentality.
Insurance is crazy high here and so ,as you mentioned, the not being forced into the car ahead of you .
There have been multiple shootings in road rage in this city over the last year. Everyone kinda wants space and eyes on others or what may be happening, room to react or move. Also not into riding a cars bumper and maybe causing another incident.
I'm sure there are as many reasons as there are people, but these are the obvious ones.
I've had people pass me in traffic when I'm leaving a couple car lengths between me and the person ahead of me. It's like, what's the point?

Yeah nah, there's etiquette to proper queueing, and that ain't it

Found the Brit.

A few years ago (when I commuted) I was driving in stop start traffic. I basically kept my car moving at tickover in 1st gear while the cars in from would pull about 8 car lengths ahead, stop, I'd creap up on them, then with luck traffic would start again and repeat. A chimp behind me couldn't hack this and switched lane, passed me out then reentered my lane so they could get ahead of me and join the rest in stop and start routine

This is actually how you help cure traffic, as lots of the slow downs are due to lane changes. They cause stops, which ripple and persistent for hours.
Enough people leaving a 3-4 car gap and not caring about people changing lanes in front of them turns "stop and go" into "go" in most traffic.
Its also chill as fuck.
- And saves gas. Too much over acceleration and sudden stopping will eat your tank supply. Coasting into a slow stop eases on the wasted gas due to over acceleration.
- Unfortunately doesn't work, but it's definitely the way to make traffic a little easier to deal with, and a little easier on your car.
That's what I do! Most people only look at the car directly in front of them, but it's better to look a few cars ahead and observe how the traffic is flowing. There is no need to accelerate if you need to break again in a few seconds.

Behaving rationally in a society means taking into account other people, as that's literally what a society is. This is irrational and selfish behavior.

If someone askl her to move why don't she ? As it don't change anything out worlds both ways. In a society people take care each other. It's just a stupid and childish behavior

Why would anyone aske her to move? It makes no difference how much space is in front of her. To me, creeping up on the people in front of you is the childish behavior.
- No, that's what makes a queue a queue. Think if everyone in the queue acted like this, you wouldn't have a queue, just a bunch of people standing around without organisation. We move up striaght away to maintain the structure of the queue so we can all tell where it starts and ends, who is I front of and behind who.
  If we do not respect the core structure of a queue we surrender to discord and forsake the simple beauty and elegance of the queue and betray the civilation that queue allows us to make.
  Source: am British.
- Counterpoint: Because you are not advancing, neither is everyone behind you. And as a result, the experience in the queue is one of stagnation, which makes waiting in the queue more frustrating until the very moment that it's finally your turn.
  So no, I think staying put while the queue ahead of you is moving is worse behaviour than creeping along.
- Because we don't know how much space is behind her, and the people waiting behind her. By her not moving to fill the available space, she may wind up causing people to overflow the line.
- Living in their own smartphone. Just like you while you drive.

Standing in line is where society breaks down. It's a weird thing I enjoy; standing in line and observing those around me. I encourage anyone to try it. Just watch, and you'll start to see patterns of a handful or so of the same types of people.

When I queue for the toilet, I count how many men wash their hands after they're done 🤢
- Try not to notice how many people use hand sanitizer before going to buffets.
- All of them... Right? Right??
Today we voted in argentina. I had to wait in line for like 20 to 25 min... not great, not terrible. 5 mins in, someone in my queue started complaining about how we can't even manage a school for an ellection (the queues where a mess everywhere) and we are voting to ellect a president... I mean, he was right but still, save something for the end of the day

Does she think this way at the bottom of an escalator? Stupidity

- Stand right, walk left is the pinnacle of civil society when it comes to escalators.
- Escalators are moving stairs that can suck you into the gears underneath and turn you into ground meat if you get caught in the teeth at the end of them. Doesn't surprise me that people are hesitant to walk on them as you're much more likely to trip and fall walking on stairs vs standing. Better to let them safely carry you up or down, then safely step off at the end.
- So do they expect the same shit when they get home and stand at the bottom of their stairwell?
  No, because, unlike yourself apparently, they have the capacity for reason.
- Escalators are a form of elevator and not stairs. They were put there because stairs would be to long or too steep for stairs and a traditional elevator has less capacity. I also believe that the general recommendation is that you don't walk in elevators because it creates a significant amount of risk of accidents while saving an insignificant amount of time.
- I'll be honest if standing still at the bottom of my stairs at home eventually took me to the top I'd do it.
- I'm not surprised you're downvoted because 90% of people stand lazily on escalators from my experience. But you and I know better.
  If walking up a flight of stairs is too difficult that you have to let the motors do all the work then maybe you should think about getting more exercise
  Some people say 'stand right, walk left' but that doesn't work in america because people are not only too dense but also too fat for that to work. So if you stand still, you're in the way
  I know I'm being condescending but idc so downvote me all you want.
- She could be completely depressed and just takes life like it is. Shitty all the way down.
- How dare you tell me how to have fun!

I am the main character

You are? Great. Raiders stole my [radiantQuestItemTierOne]. Here, I'll mark it in your map. Please hurry, it is very important to me.

I do this with traffic. People edge their cars forward and I'll just sit there.

Where are you going? The light isn't any less red.

Where am I going? To make room for people trying to clear the intersection behind me. Failing to pull forward means they're either stuck on the far side for another cycle of the light or they're going to block the intersection. With really busy intersections leaving those big gaps can make a huge impact on traffic trying to get through the one behind you.
- Even more fundamental than signal cycles, you’re moving out of the way for people still driving forward behind you. Creating gaps in traffic is what causes spontaneous traffic jams behind you that can last for hours.
The problem with this is if it's a long enough line, there could be a persom trying to get into a turning lane and they can't because you have a big ass gap between you and the car in front. That means the person could miss their light because they can't get over.
It's fine if you look behind you and you're not cutting someone off from a light or turning.
- I agree. I try to keep my situational awareness at very high levels while I'm behind the wheel, so in high density traffic, I'm looking for issues exactly like you describe. I'll move if there's enough room to move into and I see something that might be solved simply by moving (or I'm unable to rule out that it won't help, due to being unable to see enough).
- If I can’t get in the turning lane I’m sitting behind the last person who is, most people in my state recognize this as totally fine and will deal with the lane blockage
This is a real pain in the ass if you drive manual:
Auto cars relax pressure on brake pedal to inch forward;
Manual cars take foot off brake, drop clutch, engage gear, engage clutch, move forward, drop clutch and engage brake again, gear to neutral, foot off clutch.
I'm sure all this inching forward happened a lot less when most cars were manual (Europe).
- Idk if it's ok to do but I've always just: keep it in first and clutch + brake -> bite on the clutch and swap to accelerator a smidge to move forward in traffic. Doesn't bother me much tbh but I've never driven an automatic so idk if I'm missing out.
- As a manual car enjoyer, my brain does all these tasks automatically without the need for conscious attention.
- I feel this pain. I'm a MT driver, it's part of the reason I'm very pragmatic about when I creep forward.... If I'm going to move forward just a little bit, I'm going to need a pretty good reason to do so; thus I try to be very observant to what's going on around me, specifically regarding if the gap in front of my is negatively affecting the movement of vehicles in my immediate area, like blocking laneways or slip lanes, etc. If I'm not creating a problem with where I am, I don't bother moving.
- I believe you have the terms for drop clutch and engage clutch backwards.
More cars can get in at the light behind you.
- I don't live or drive in areas where the traffic is so dense and the spacing of the lights is so short that this is a problem.
  I tend to notice, frequently, if there's any issues like this in my immediate area, like blocking a laneway or people getting stuck in an intersection or behind it, and I react accordingly.... Sometimes packing myself against the car in front of me, far closer than I normally would to try to fix such problems behind me. I'm sure I don't notice 100% of the time, but I'll notice an issue and creep forward to less than a foot to the vehicle in front of me, to make space so the person behind can move to clear a laneway where someone is stuck, only to have the person behind me not notice that I've moved, and continue blocking the laneway.
  I'm pragmatic about it. If there's no good reason to shift forwards, I will probably just wait where I am. Once the light goes green though, I'll close the gap pretty quickly.
Agree if you are talking about people who edge over the line at the front of the queue but leaving massive gaps between you and whoever is in fro t causes issues further back.
You could be creating a block at a joining road behind you. You could be blocking a filter lane for traffic making a left/right turn from a dual carriageway.
Just move your car forward and remember that you dont know what issues your decision might cause and its a little self entitled to assume everyone else is just waiting in the same line as you.
- Oh, certainly if it's a significant gap, more than a car length more than I would normally stop, I'll shift forwards, especially in high density situations (if nobody is behind me and I'm not blocking a laneway, then I'll probably just sit there).
  Something to add to the consideration is that I drive standard, so moving a small amount is a lot more difficult for me than most drivers, and takes more active effort. Most AT drivers just release the brake for a few seconds and they can close the gap. I have to release the clutch and possibly press the throttle to ensure the engine doesn't stall... Etc.
  I'll still do it, but my tolerance for a gap in front of me is much higher than others.

you ask once and if they refuse you bypass them.

if they stop you, apologize then wait for them to get distracted again and go.

it won't take them long to keep up with the line, I guarantee it.

But shes still right. Assuming that everyone is still in the queue area and not overflowing into the general concourses, it does not matter when she moves. The forward progress is an illusion if youre still queued after you move.
- Do you think she was keeping track of whether people were overflowing into the general concourses ?
- I think it’s just people want the illusion of the line moving so they can feel safe of reaching the end of the line, cause at the airport you want to the quickest way to your gate.
- but it does matter.
  if she doesn't move then I will go in front of her.
  she can stand there all day if she wants.
- The forward progress is an illusion if youre still queued after you move.
  Only if you count the amounts in the queue; if you count the positions, you're still making progress because you have materially moved closer to the finish line: you'll spend more time in the queue being "closer" than "farer" to the finish.
But why would you do that? She's in front of you in the queue, so unless you have priority, human etiquette dictates that you should wait for your turn.
Skipping the line is just being mean to the people you skipped.
- I'd argue that by not moving up she's opted out of the queue and is no longer participating
- I said if they stopped me I'd apologize.

She's out of line, but she's right.

Err...
But then the person behind her would just wait to move at all until she's made it through, the line would continue to grow backwards and each next person would have further to walk, and have to have better prediction times/cause longer waits at the service till.
- It's a meme, don't over think it.

I'd just cut in front of her since she was so nice to leave a gap. The lesson will be learned one way or another.

I see this in dense traffic every time I leave a bit of space and then all have to break instead of driving forward slowly. I hate these kind of people who make it worse for everyone else, by sneaking in.
- Technically those sneaking in are reducing the line of the other lane. Zipper merge FTW
If you're not moving with the line, I infer you are not in line. I would have no qualms going right around her.

"We're a society" does not explain at all why what she did was wrong.
Most upvoted comment does.

Yep. that's me too. also, i dont stand up while the aircraft is still taxi'ing. It doesn't save you any time, folks!

Yeah but my ass hurts, man. Those seats suck.
- Same bro, I've been sat down for like sometimes 2 hours straight, I wanna stand up.
Gotta stretch the legs man, I get knee pain sitting in airplane seats. Stand up to relieve it as soon as I can.
Some people are impatient, and some people just need to stretch the legs. Overall I just ignore what people around me choose to do after the landings and wait until everybody in front of me is clear.
If you don't stand up, how well you needlessly block the aisle on the off chance of stopping someone sitting further up the plane than you from getting off? Come on!

Self absorbed cunt

I think people are taking this to the extreme and talking about what would happen if the queue piles up behind her. But on a less dramatic level, maybe she's just finishing the page of her book she's reading, or finishing off writing a long and potentially important text - tasks which you'd rather get done in one go. The gap between her and the next person in queue is small enough that it could've happened all in one queue movement, and she's just not instantly moving - she wants to finish her page.

Having been in queues in airports, the pressure put on you by the people behind you is ridiculous. It feels like if you spend 30 seconds not moving (nowhere near enough time to cause a pileup that spills into the walkable areas) people think you're crazy, when in reality it just means picking up your bags less and getting to finish reading that task you're doing

If it's "the same" as she claims it is then get a fucking move on and stop acting like a cunt starved for attention.

Misery loves company

Anybody know the relevant Kierkegaard quote?

I spent a few minutes trying to find it but couldn't. This might be a good place to start looking since it specifically mentions his views on rationality. https://ndpr.nd.edu/reviews/the-paradoxical-rationality-of-sren-kierkegaard/

i would literally go around her. if it's all the same to you sweetie, i'll just behave like a rational person and take all that open space up in line. ain't nobody (normal) got time for that sh..

Sören Graveyard is kind of a metal name.

Reminds me of the solar opposites episode.