The Arctic ocean photographed in the same place, 107 years ago vs today.
The Arctic ocean photographed in the same place, 107 years ago vs today.
Facebook comments: Well obviously it was taken in the SUMMER 😂🤣😆 Morons global warming is all fear mongering!
Yes Jim. It's very normal that entire glaciers disappear, regularly in fact, every year. You are so smart, much smarter than all of the scientists who are panicking.
Ummm…. There’s people right here on lemmy saying the same dumb shit about summer. Don’t think for a second that lemmy doesn’t host some of the exact same idiots Facebook does.
Reddit comment: Shaving does make your dinghy look bigger!
Also, the sunlight suggests it's summer in the first photo (or at least not winter).
crazy to think that guy has been on that boat for over 100 years
He clearly switched boats.
Boat of Theseus
Nah, he just slowly upgraded and remodel on the spot. The guy never moved from that spot. 🤥
No boat would live that long...
Wow, it looks so much prettier today. All thanks to climate improvement.
Thanks, emissionschads!
yeah but it's much more colorful now. that's good, isn't it?
OP always thinks positive.
But at what point does it become toxic positivity?
A reverse image search revealed to me that there are a hell of a lot of copies of this image around the internet, but I can't seem to find any papers that provide background. I'm going to have to look again later, but if there's any other internet sleuths out there interested in figuring out the origins of these photos with reputable explainers, I would love to know more about this.
I'm always afraid of things like this that seem to confirm my biases without associated information to back it...
I just did reverse image search and found this article from 2002
The Guardian article nailed it, thanks!
It doesn't cite exactly where they got the Greenpeace photo from, but I found it here: https://media.greenpeace.org/archive/Climate-Impact-Documentation-in-Norway--Svalbard-27MZIF4WNED.html
Climate Impact Documentation in Norway, Svalbard Greenpeace documentation showing that glacier "Blomstrandbreen" has retreated nearly 2 km since 1928, with an accelerated rate of 35 metres lost per year since 1960 and even higher in the past decade. In the image, view of climate campaigner Truls Gulowsen on a speed boat going to a mine in Longyearbyen.
Unique identifier: GP0STSCL6 Shoot date: 03/08/2002 Locations: Norway, Scandinavia, Svalbard Credit line: © Greenpeace / Christian Åslund
A bit more from the Guardian article:
Greenpeace activists visited the glacier last weekend on the Rainbow Warrior taking pictures from the same locations to highlight the effects of global warming, which the group says is a threat to the future of the planet.
The Blomstrandbreen glacier has retreated by one and a quarter miles since 1928, according to Greenpeace. It was shrinking by 115ft a year in the 1960s, a rate which has risen.
Recent studies carried out by US researchers and reported in Science last month said that 85% of the glaciers they examined had lost vast portions of their mass in the last 40 years.
Keith Echelmayer of the University of Alaska at Fairbanks, who has carried out research into Alaska's ice streams and checked glacier thickness, said: "Most glaciers have thinned several hundred feet at low elevation in the last 40 years and about 60 feet at higher elevations."
There's a couple similar photos from 2022 posted to Reddit by the same photographer (meaning the same person posted these two, not that it's necessarily the same person who posted the one above):
I myself asked "What time of year was the lower photograph taken?" Then I realized I was being dumb, because if either photo was taken in winter time, we would see at least some ice in the water, if not a very large ice sheet.
That, and it'd be dark. You'd need to pack one hell of a flash.
That…. Is fucking tragic. There’s no going back to that. Ever.
Don't worry, the ice will come back, we just won't be around to see it.
Speak for yourself, I intend to be here for it.
For that to happen the carbon would need to be buried in the ground again, however
And it's possible that humanity has emitted so much and warmed the globe so much that we shift the global climate stability point to something else than was before. It's possible the new equilibrium over millions of year will be a warmer earth
Oh it will be back. We won't be. But the planet always bounces back.
Not really tbh. The earth is well past the halfway point until we look like Mars: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_far_future
Notice the first guy is in a wooden boat and the second guy is in a boat most likely made out of some plastic-based fibers. 🤔
The plastic isn't really a huge driver of climate change, the problems it causes are different.
For the climate change comparison, notice that the old boat has oars, but the new boat has a gas engine
The boat in the old photo (from 1928, apparently) is casting a pretty good wake, and the man aboard is holding a tiller attached to a rudder. It's impossible to tell for certain with the low-res image, but entirely likely that one of those shapes in the boat ahead of him is an inboard engine.
The old boat also has a motor, note how it's still moving in the photo while the only person in it is in the back holding a tiller (and appears to be facing forwards).
the old boat has oars
Which no-one is using. It's the first thing I noticed. There's a man sitting in the stern with a tiller and rudder, but there's no visible means of propulsion, no other crew. Weird.
Edit: I zoomed in, and it's possible there is someone else in the boat, hard to see.
New real estate!
people 107 years ago loved sepia filters.
And retro fashion.
Vvvintage.
Good luck, everyone. I genuinely hope you make it through as okay as you can.
I'm always disappointed when someone takes the time to try to reproduce an old photo but they miss by not having everything identical (wooden boat).
Then I'm more disappointed because that motorized boat is part of the problem that caused this tragedy.
IDK, maybe that was the point
I mean anyone is free to try their hand at reproducing it better, I'm sure the spot hasn't changed that much since the modern one here was taken, and if it has, well it'll just make the comparison that much more dramatic.
Yes, let's focus on that.
Well that's fuckin depressing
Mother Nature: Dont worry humans, everything will be fine, life will go on. Your fucking this up for your self, and you wont be missed
Revenge of the Titanic.
Oprah buying up development rights on the coastline there too?
This is wild 🫨
ah to have seen the raw undisturbed beauty earth once had....
