Every dang day
Every dang day
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CHOOSE:
freedom of thought, but you have to learn to work with people you disagree with slightly or find annoying: left
uniformity of thought, but you are surrounded by bleating sheep and must bleat along: right
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It cracks me up how antivaxxers on the right try using the slogan "Lions not sheep". It reminds me of how Fox News used to call themselves "Fair and Balanced".
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It's always funny when the right start having a lot of infighting because it turns out that "what everyone thinks" turns out to be a personal choice.
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They never have infighting about how to make things better though... Like they don't fight weather we should help single mothers with X or just Y... No they argue if billionaires should get pay no taxes or negative taxes...
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A lot of younger (louder) leftists are not liberal so they enforce uniform thought in their communities and mock liberals.
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Leftism is intersectional. So having communities that agree with one another but disagree with others is often the state of things. One community can get more accomplished if they agree internally. Liberals are not leftists.
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This is confusing. Liberalism isn't leftwing, it's right-of-center at best. Most often it's right-wing economic policies with socially left-wing ineffectual lip service. Especially with how far right the Democrats have trended since the 80s and their adoption of a corporate focused form of third-wayism. There are only a handful of representatives who could even be considered slightly left-of-center progressives.
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Young people of all generations do not have full brains developed yet, they are basic and self righteous until 27ish
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Interesting. Why are people getting cancelled for opposing leftist views? Why are you automatically considered a nazi if you don't agree with every facet of the left? I may be wrong here, but none of that sounds like freedom of thought. The right is full of dumb ideas, but at least they let them all be heard.
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Why are people getting cancelled for opposing leftist views?
From the people who tried to cancel D&D, Rock music, The Dixie Chicks, Drag shows, LGBTQ....
Why are you automatically considered a nazi if you don't agree with every facet of the left?
From the people who started asking if the ultra-religious speaker of the house was "secretly a Democrat" because he simply acknowledged the difficulties his adopted black son has that his white son doesn't.
I may be wrong here, but none of that sounds like freedom of thought. The right is full of dumb ideas, but at least they let them all be heard.
From the people who shouted down a reporter for simply asking the question "do you believe the 2020 election was stolen?"
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Why are people getting cancelled for opposing leftist views?
They aren't
Why are you automatically considered a nazi if you don't agree with every facet of the left?
You aren't
I may be wrong here, but none of that sounds like freedom of thought.
You are wrong here
The right is full of dumb ideas, but at least they let them all be heard.
Why is this even a positive lol
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Everything you said is bullshit and d r I p p I n g in so much propaganda filth I don't think you are an actual real person! Literally Nobody talks like this.
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Dude, people on the left don't agree with everything on the left. That's the entire point of this post. Grow up and have some nuence in thought. Learn to analyze what you're told and think critically, not just repeat things you hear other people say.
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You're both profoundly ignorant of the subject matter and very confident you know a lot about it, a.k.a. an excellent example of the Dunning-Krugger effect.
Consider the possibility that what you hear about "The Left" (just the idea that it's an unified thing is ridiculous) from the media you consume (American, right?!) are the shocking things that will make you form the opinion others want you to have - in other words, you're being treated as an useful idiot.
Even in the US, were whatever passes for "Left" is very much captured by the local Duopoly Of Power politics and doesn't really tries to effectivelly achieve the "Greatest good for the greatest number" (otherwise they would be way, WAY, WAY more worried about wealth inequality and not obcessed with fragmented identitarian infighting), leftwing thinking is a range - though narrower than elsewhere - not a unified anything.
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Disagreeing with a gay person's lifestyle doesn't make you a nazi. Wanting to punish a gay person in any way because of their lifestyle does.
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grouping everyone on a binary political scale with no nuances
not thinking that you're either left OR right, but realise that you can have different opinions and preferences in different areas and those can't always be forced into a left/right box, and that you can agredisagree with anyone, regardless if you vote for the same party or not
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"I was mad the people I tend to agree with how to fix my country were not doing enough, so I just became part of the problem."
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Like anyone on the right actually cares about fixing problems. It's all about how they can benefit from a situation, how they can spin things to their advantage.
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They know deep down they are supporting the trainwreck, they just want a media ecosystem that blames others so they don't feel personally responsible for it.
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ding ding ding ding
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You've got it wrong here, they care about fixing 'problems'
When you make up problems so the solution can be physical violence, ANY 'problem' is 'solvable' if you stir up enough 'vigilantes' to solve it!
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I honestly would probably vote Republican if they put up a candidate that had solutions to economic problems they swear is caused by the left.
But they don’t have any, because all their candidates bluster about the economy while they run on platforms centered around identity politics, religious law, and reducing women’s bodily autonomy.
Every day I have to hear conservatives complain about how “Biden ruined the economy” but they don’t seem to care all that much about fixing it. They just want to ban abortion, suppress the gays , and put Christ back in Christmas.
It honestly feels like the left doesn’t know how to fix the economy and the right just doesn’t want to.
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huh, who could have thought that political opinions are not strictly binary.
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Lol, made me spit my coffee out.
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I am politically nb.
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That premise is incorrect, though. Conservatives don't have political opinions. Seriously. Even the GOP platform doesn't exist anyone. It's all just culture war nonsense and dog whistles. And their voters know the "traditional values" white person is being erased and discriminated against and they need to stand vigilantly opposed to wokeness... How do they know? Their feelings.
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Are you suggesting political opinions are actually unary?
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Considering the Right has a unified goal (complete removal of "them" and codifying perceived hierarchy into law), they don't care about the process
The Left does NOT have a unified goal OR process. Off the top of my head, the Contrapoints/Hasanabi "millionaires are ok, thinking otherwise is immature and envious", the Maupin/Coffin Red Browns, the Vaush/Xanderhal "it should be codified that I should be able to say the N word", the "all theft should be legal" webcomic artists, the Sinfest "feminism went too far when it allowed trans/queer people", the tiktok "any intercourse information made public should be an assault charge"
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I agree. What we call the "Left" in the US is a largely heterogenous group of people separated by decades of infighting and a mountain of conflicting interests. There's the types you mentioned, then there's the trans activists, the eco activists, black/BIPOC activists, socialists, anarchists, liberals, feminists, and on and on.
Suppose you are a Democratic House or Senate candidate. To actually win the election, you need two things, votes and funding. You know there are things your voter base cares passionately about, that they have no hope of ever getting from Republicans, but unfortunately they are also things the big ticket donors despise. So, what do you do? You'll have to steer away from policies that will break the coalition and split the vote. You'll have to steer away from topics that will frighten the donor class. When faced with that challenge of keeping the Left (mostly) united AND getting that sweet donor cash, most mainstream Democrats tend to pivot away from wedge issues and policies, and focus more on process. Y'know, uncontroversial things like bipartisanship, decorum, and compromise. And while we're all sick of the lack of these things in DC, they're not things Democrats can make happen all by themselves, and more importantly, none of them are results, they're means.
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the tiktok “any intercourse information made public should be an assault charge”
You and I have very different FYPs lol
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No! We can't work together with people who want something else just because they call themselves leftists, too
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No. Leftie infighting is important. Thats why I'm gonna say Thought Slime is sussy af and actually the most annoying leftist of all time.
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For me it's the comma splices.
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Hasn’t the Republican Party been in total disarray since Trump left office?
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Similar like that.
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Oh yeah, I've used this meme format so many times to describe various leftist dynamics
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That's not fair I'm annoyed by everyone all the time
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Speaking of...
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It’s like people insist that only two types of people exists.
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People that are me, and people that aren't
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Right? I'm tired of being called a bro dude because I don't see sexy women in video games anymore, I'm not even a man.
I'm left as fuck, but why can't I just see some titties during my free time without the people who provide me the titties being called misogynists? There are girls who like girls. Show me the titties.
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May I introduce you to the Baldur's Gate 3 Sex% Speedrun?
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“Every family has that one family member everyone else shits on behind their back. And if you’re sitting there thinking ‘hang on, my family doesn’t do that..’, I’ve got bad news for you.”
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Splitters!
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nanners
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True dat.
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It's about how they claim that this transformation happened to them. Whether they're lying or not is a different story.
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I'm becoming right wing because a frightening amount of leftists are calling for my death and the right wing fascists aren't.
Wild fucking world we live in yo.
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Dunno who these 'leftists' are, but as far as I can see on a global scale, they don't have/will never have enough power to commit mass genocide
The Right Wing war on Trans people/Muslims/[INSERT "POLITICAL" OTHER HERE] has been ramping up and leading to a hell of a lot of deaths
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I think you have a persecution complex. Who is calling for your death and why?
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Take care
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I think this comment sections shows quite well just how much Lemmy is a bubble of leftists.
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I don't think people join the right because they are annoyed by leftists, I think they join the right because they see a bunch of people full of hatred and want to join in because of their self-centered misanthropy.
100% they just use being annoyed by leftists to hide their ideological view points. Just wanted to share this cause I thought it was funny.
Yeah, I probably shouldn't have posted that. I didn't get enough sleep and I'm grouchy. Sorry.
It's the same people that say Atheists are as annoying as Christians. Bro, there a lot of atheists you just don't hear about, you're making a lame excuse to be Christian.
To be fair, I'm sure there are dozens of legit good Christians out there...somewhere
I live in Czech Republic. Atheism is the default here. Almost nobody talks about faith, since most people don't care, so you can't really tell if someone is Christian.
To me, internet atheists are annoying as shit. I get it that the USA close to being an open theocracy and a lot of pushback is still needed before things are even close to normal, but still. Forceful atheism you usually see online is obnoxious, goes to extremes, the smugness is off the charts - simpmy annoying.
I think to a degree the left pushes people out though, as your lefty card needs to be spotless or it’s revoked.
Sometimes a person can say one thing wrong and they’ll be labelled an alt-right fascist, and not part of “the group” on the left, especially online.
Obviously that doesn’t make people right wing, but it is a problem that pushes people away from more left leaning views/groups. Rather than try to discuss and correct, people will berate and ostracise.
We eat our own.
You think that doesn't happen on the right? There's a huge fight in congress now about which idiot is the Republicanest. They're all calling each other RINOs.
Ok, I'll bite, give me an example of "one thing wrong" that gets you labelled as an alt-right fascist.
People don't align with the Right because of shared political ideals, they align with the Right because the Right hates the same people they do and promises to punish those they hate.
They can scream and wail about "family values" all they want, but when they're lined up with neo-nazis, white supremacists, and pedophiles all praising their glorious leader (who, BTW, believes that there are "very fine people" among a group who chants "Jews will not replace us! "), everyone on the outside has to wonder what "values" they are really fighting for.
Yeah, but voting left or supporting lefty positions doesn't get us anywhere close to Stalin currently, whereas on the right we have at least a Mussolini with a solid trajectory through Franco to Hitler waiting to get elected.
It's a joke, and it references a commonly heard fake argument from the right that they were left leaning once but couldn't stand the people.
I will say, anger and hatred are very contagious. I mean, not so contagious that I could start being racist and homophobic…wait, yeah, right wingers are assholes.
Usually memes make up what one side says to make a great comeback, but in this case it's definitely correct. People absolutely go right because of stupidity on the left, and vice versa
I thibk what thwy're saying is, is that it is proof you have horrible moral axioms or no axioms at all if you're willing to shift entire poolitical directions over annoyance. Constructing society MUST be done by people who are less petty and judgemental.
The fact that Trump has made it his life's mission to be a fucking cartoon villain, and that people actually follow him, is not a moral failing of the guy you replied to.
People on the right wanting to take away medical treatment from trans people that we all know will result in more of them being miserable and committing suicide. That's hateful.
Laws passed to censor any discussion of homosexuality, ensuring gay people stay isolated, closeted, and unaccepted by larger society. That's hateful.
Silence any talk of racism lest we work to overcome it? Hateful.
We hear Trump telling us he will lock up the lefties. Believe it or not, hateful.
Trump making fun of disabled people and Republicans laughing along with? Again, Hateful.
Putting brown kids in cages, or yanking them away from their families and then losing them? Hateful.
And on and on.
Rabid right wing extremists have taken over the GOP over the last few decades. They're the hateful ones.
Things it's okay to hate people for:
Things it's not okay to hate people for:
Thank you for saving us from the cancel mob
It does not mean they are hateful, you silly billy. It means they cannot observe the reasons for the hate.
That COULD be because they agree with it and do not want to admit, but you MUST understand how wishful thinking and ignorance to evil ABSOLUTELY produces the same result.
MLK Jr. was not calling everyone who sat on their butt evil. He called their inaction the banality of evil. It does NOT take an evil person to do a horrible thing. The fact you do not realize that means it is you who has a lot of growing to do.
Yes, inaction because of ignorance is bad. Though calling people evil because they're ignorant is utterly counterproductive and frankly, pathetically judgemental, too.
Except they literally are, looking at the US. I’m European and I see most right-wing European politicians as just “assholes I disagree with”, but the US Republicans are literally cartoon villains at this point. Like, Trump would get labeled as unrealistic if he was an antagonist in a remotely adult-oriented movie.