Jasmine Crockett says Democrats want ‘the safest white boy’ for 2028 ticket and have a specific candidate in mind
Jasmine Crockett says Democrats want ‘the safest white boy’ for 2028 ticket
Democrats are gonna blow it on a fucking centrist again
Organize now and win primaries later. Shove a progressive down the DNC's throat like Trump shoved himself down the RNC's throat in 2016.
2016, 2020, and 2024 made it obvious the Democratic Party will never let a progressive win the election. They will do whatever they need to do to mess with the election to prevent that from happening. 2016 they manipulated the media heavily, used delegates to manipulate numbers early to build support for her, manipulated graphs to make him seem like he was doing badly, constantly misconstrued Bernie's ideas in media interviews, gave her debate questions, and showed empty podiums Trump would sit at instead of Bernie speeches. 2020 they brought in Bloomberg who only entered to make sure Bernie didn't win, also did some media manipulation, kept trying to coopt some of his ideas in a more watered down form, and then called everyone but Warren, who shared the most voters with Bernie, to drop out at the same time after it looked like he could win. In 2024 they basically didn't even have a primary, with no debates, interviews with candidates, or anything, and even skipped it in some states. Once that process was over, he just handed the candidacy over to his VP.
They will always tip the scales and will never let it be fair if there is a danger of an outsider winning. The Democratic Party is a bunch of donors and industry staffers in a trench coat. I've basically given up on having any hope in it, this last election and it's support for "the most lethal army in the world" while we're enabling a genocide was the last straw.
Trump won because he threatened to run as an independent and spoil the Republicans chances. The DNC would rather let the Republicans win then let a progressive independent win. If we can't get a real progressive on the ballot, we can't wait for election day to do something about it
Their corporate donation spice must flow, and a progressive platform isn't what is requested.
Democratic voters need to find their balls and brains to deny the establishment their choice instead of reluctantly getting behind the MSNBC boosted candidate. The best thing we can do for the Democratic party at this moment is criticize the fuck our of establishment bullshit.
Democratic voters need to find their balls and brains to deny the establishment their choice instead of reluctantly getting behind the MSNBC boosted candidate.
If it looks like that's going to happen, they just won't bother with primaries.
Again.
Criticize? Get into your local party. Get progressives in as dog catchers, then city council, then mayor, then state legislator, comptroller, a tourney general, then governor, then national representative, senator, then president with a party that will support their agenda.
If progressives are the only ones who win primaries then progressives will be the candidates.
They kinda did. That's how Harris lost
They don't want a safe candidate. A safe candidate would be someone who takes broadly popular positions, like Medicare for All, a jobs guarantee, or public internet. They want centrist candidates, which the consultant class has convinced them is safe (and, coincidentally, never take positions that upset the donors), but centrism is the least safe position to take at this point. No one who is watching their wages stagnate while the cost of living skyrockets is thinking, "I hope this can be solved through incremental changes that don't disrupt that status-quo too much!"
They want centrist candidates, which the consultant class has convinced them is safe
They want centrist candidates and don't care if they're safe.
I think there's legitimate self-delusion that keeps some of them believing the centrist is the safe choice. Some of them delude themselves into thinking that being centrist is a good idea because people don't like, "wokeness." Some of them convince themselves that if they're too progressive, the donors will abandon them and they won't have enough money to win. I think the old timers like Carvil legitimately think that centrism is the best strategy because they can't get past 1992. But yeah, I think deep down, they would all prefer losing with a neoliberal centrist than winning with an actual progressive, even if some of them won't admit it.
Yep. They want another billion in campaign donations, even if it ends in a loss.
Yeah, they want to ride the edge and put forth the most conservative a candidate possible that still has a plausible road to victory (and the plausibility can be pretty thin). The last few candidates haven't been anywhere close to just lining up with the most popular issues (either within the Democratic party or the larger electorate).
It's just insane. People are so desperate for change that they're willing to vote for fascism, and the Democrats are trying to put run a moderate conservative. If they're not completely delusional, then they must believe the James Carvils of the party who are telling them they just have to wait for the Republicans to become unpopular again to take power. In the best case scenario, they'll win in four years, then lose in another 4 (probably to a more competent fascist) because people will see they're not doing anything for them.
DNC donors want a corporate stooge for president who does nothing and says nothing they don't approve of.
So they're already trying to throw the 2028 election. For fuck's sake
Of course. People should already organise around an alternative.
I find it funny, that you still buy into this narrative. Most western countries and many countries were women are considered to be discriminated more than in western countries had women leading governments. This includes far right parties such as in Italy.
Neither Hillary nor Harris lost because they were women. They lost because they had political positions driving away progressives and presented themselves in an uncharismatic and "high-and mighty" way that alienated the conservative bases they tried pondering to. If you want to win you have to at least pretend to care about normal people, not belittle them.
I think the issues with Harris and Clinton was that they were both boring, pro establishment candidates and Harris especially was a prosecutor right when the BLM movement was demanding police reform. The DNC can't or won't read the room.
It's just self reporting your own misogyny if you think it's cause they were women and not because of who they were as people
Which woman matters.
It's an uncomfortable truth but there's a lot of sexism out there that simply believe that a "man" ... any man is better than women in positions of power. Like I heard about Latinos for Trump believing Trump would just simply be better than Kamala on the economy due to his gender.
To be clear, I definitely don't agree with it.
Crockett said Democrats have ‘this fear’ about voting for a woman again after Kamala Harris and Hillary Clinton lost
Both had a VP named Tim. Need to run a third trial where a safe white man runs with a VP candidate with the name Tim to confirm that isn't the issue.
The issue I see with those 2 is no one wanted Hillary, and she basically bought off the DNC to get the nomination. Kamala was thrown into the race way too late. Joe should've said right away he wasn't looking for a 2nd term and immediately start pushing Kamala.
Democratic leadership just shoots themselves in the foot, and then blames voters.
I am an extremely safe looking whiteboy and I'd love nothing more than an AOC pres and Crockett vice pres ticket. That shit would be awesome.
I certainly will not vote for Newsom or Buttigieg. Unless some other incredible candidate comes out of the woodworks, I'll be AOC or bust if she decides to run.
AOC with Crockett as vice pres.
AOC and BERNIE!
Sanders will be 86 by the time of the next election. It's time to stop pushing for him. It's not going to happen, and probably wouldn't be a great idea if it did.
Sanders will be 86 by the time of the next election.
We care about age now that we no longer have to pretend that biden is lucid.
Just have both of them run, while having their opposite number on the VP ticket during the primary. They can agree to have the one with the smaller numbers drop out and give their voters to whoever has a better campaign between them. This way, we get "Must vote for white dude" votes and "we need younger leader" votes.
There is no bloody reason for them to play by "traditional" rules, seeing as how the DNC and GOP don't give a damn about fair play.
It's not that the candidates are women, POC, nonbinary!!! It's they're Republicans (DINOs).
That said, I like Jasmine. Afaik
Guillotine for president 2028
This was exactly what I was hoping it was
It's already newsom. They just haven't done kabuki primaries yet. If they deign to at all.
Newsome is such a corrupt slime. He let PG&E get away with literal murder for shareholder profit. He was married to that god awful Guifoille lady. He’s also related to Pelosi and now he has a podcast where he talks to Nazis. California should be leading the way with healthcare, education and job protections but we’re not in fact California enabled and coddled the rise of broligarch facism. People always talk about the homeless crisis in California that was in large part caused by the tech broligarchy. Strap in America because there going to be a homelessness and then a mass incarceration explosion. Voting for Newsome in his ivory tower would just be a vote for the broligarchs.
"kabuki primaries" 😂
No one wants more California policies and politics. He is a hard sell to most of the US states.
Your Republicans and most Democrats are two sides of the same medal
They're both funded by the same people corporations, so many of their goals are the same.
It's gonna be Pete, Newsome, or fettermen. ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ progressives are gonna loooove these options /s
Establishment dems would view Gavin as the safest of those white boys, but I thought he didn't want to run.
I sure hope it's Joe Biden!
/s
Biden would run again if given the chance. Thats how stupid and egotistical he is.
Wow. What a racist as fuck comment.
If you’ve made it this far and you can’t fit the jigsaw pieces of America’s racist history and racist present, plus how politics has been dominated by white men almost exclusively, and how leftists are tired of it on so many levels, and you choose somehow to be offended by a white democratic nominee for president being called “safe white boy,” I don’t know what to tell you.
lol, you'll be fine.
That makes no sense.
Racism : prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism by an individual, community, or institution against a person or people on the basis of their membership in a particular racial or ethnic group, typically one that is a minority or marginalized.
Not feeling the racist vibe off of this. Maybe if she said "cracker" or "slaver" or something like that, but I don't feel that she is disparaging white men, she's voicing a complaint that the DNC will not run a candidate that appeals to their base, and will once again try to get the centrist and moderate-right vote again.
"Safe" is how we got fucking Trump and the Turdpublicans running amok. How about we try some socialism, instead of unbridled capitalism?
Crockett’s a Zionist defending Israel as they commit a genocide. She has no fucking room to be criticizing anyone else about political risks.
Who is Jasmine Crockett and why do we care? (Edit: other than "texas lawmaker")
Also, this isn't a surprise. Lots of sexists won't vote for a woman.
Who is Jasmine Crockett
What is a search engine?
and why do we care?
She's not a centrist so you don't.
Also, this isn’t a surprise. Lots of sexists won’t vote for a woman.
AOC is having a moment so suddenly the party is pushing the message that women can't win. If they had some genocide-happy corpodem they intended to foist on us, they wouldn't be holding back all women just to stop one progressive woman.
I said this at the time, why field a chancy candidate in a country of racists and misogynists unless you wanted to lose?
I think you have to be a much stronger candidate than Harris was to be either of those things, let alone both. Obama was a very strong personality and he only had one strike against him. And he wasn't running against a social media shitstorm because that whole strategy was still very nascent.
We already saw what happened to Bernie in the 2016 DNC nomination race; he wasn't going to get that close again, they had to pull out all the bullshit DNC fuckery to get Hillary in there.
The battle of being politcally correct vs appealing to more voters.
I voted kamala but I thought her campaign and policies were total shit. I want a bernie or aoc, but the ones who run on empathy and understanding are going to lose in this nation, for now.
Republicans will make sure the democrats never have a successful platform. They will do absolutely everything in their power to make sure anything positive is never passed unless their name is on it as the driver. If anything maybe we should all just join the republican party and vote for a liberal candidate in their primaries. If just half of the democrat voters did this we'd win their primaries and win the election by default.
They need to energize their base and most people voting for Democrats are not racist or misogynist enough for the colour of a candidate’s skin to be a major issue. That isn’t why Harris lost and that should be obvious enough.
Is no-one going to tell them?
They have definitely heard. They just don't care.
I don't think that is going to be necessary any more.
She’s making her move
It's Beshear isn't it?
His name is Andy.
I will vote for whoever isn’t the disgusting republican traitor. But give me fucking AOC, ffs.
I'd vote for a literal dog at this point as long as it had competent, non fascist advisors.
Even if it were a yellow dog? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_dog_Democrat
Why would they, if they know you'll vote for whoever isn't republican
Good call. Best to not vote so they don't even need to try to win your vote. /s
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