I remember some kinda skit about sci Fi authors writing about how bad a torture matrix would be ironically inspiring real people to create the torture matrix cause it's the future.

Oh look, we are both misunderstanding each other, posting protests as if I am against them. Look friend, neither of us like genocide. We both recognize it as a genocide. We both think action against the state in protest of the genocide to be a good thing. We both have probably participated in similar forms of action to that effect. Let's give each other the benefit of the doubt on that front. My argument is that voting does not diminish any of those actions. But not voting does nothing but increase the chance of a worse outcome overall both in relation to the genocide of palastinians and the harm that would come domestically to other at risk folk.

Terms like "it legitimizes electoral politics" or similar are nice self justifications for ignoring that choice, but you and I both know regardless of choice in the matter, the genocide will continue. So keep protesting. Keep direct actioning up the place. But also, take the half second to engage in a wee bit of lesser evilism, even if it hurts our pride to do so.

There. I didn't do any shut up middle school lines. I made an argument.

Varrying degrees of shittyness sure, but it is human to cause pain and suffering to those around you. Being aware of that is the first step to lessening it's effect.

Them palastinians will sure appreciate your direct action of not voting. That'll fix them right up.

By specifically acknowledging that no matter the choice, the genocide will continue and purposely putting that concept at the front while also acknowledging between the two options, one will be better than the other. I mean, your currently providing GDP toward genocide. If it was so all encompassingly important to you, you would be more radical than to argue on Lemmy. Put your life on the line soldier, or accept that there is only so much us western haters of genocide can do in this specific case at this specific point in time.

I get that, like I said, I respect the pacifism, but can you at least not accept the validity of self defence in the face of genocide? Even if you were to accept that you yourself never could bring yourself to that? I took don't believe I could kill a person over it, but I do not blame those who have been pushed to that point of that makes sense

Boy howdy, I can't wait for world peace?

So, Warsaw ghetto uprising during WW2 when subjugated poles rose up and began killing their nazi prison guards. You would call this a both sides is wrong situation?

And if not, I see no reason for you not to consider the palastinians with the same ideals as that of the poles.

And if so, I respect your pacifism.

Boy howdy.

How do you avoid personally attacking someone who so personally holds up their "I am evil" sign? Like, if I say "go fuck yourself" to the comment I'm responding to them I'm just going to get deleted for incivility. But the man is praising an invasion by a genocidal regime and I'm kinda fuckin tired of being forced to be civil with someone so incapable of civility themselves.

Fuck isreal.

Ah yes, let's get the consumer product safety commission on the problem of school shootings. Hell, since they are so able to ban the way blinds chords are setup, why aren't they ending climate change? The genocide of palastinians? I for one demand the consumer product safety commission do it's fucking job and reform the American policing system.

Boy howdy, I can't wait for Iran to intervene and then the US gets into it again.

Look everyone, he without sin!

Except that the people saying this are making a distinction between the two. Do you want to interpret what they are trying to say or do you wanna play word games? Disingenuous.

I'd love to see an explanation for that one.

Endorsement means you like them. This makes it clear they do not.

Now hold on, it's also popular to the religious traumatized crowds. Hi. It's me. I'm the crowd.