I swear some of the people on here only think you can be left wing if you want an 80% wealth tax of millionaires and are going to institute universal basic income.

Welcome to Lemmy.

The stupid average voter is barely even aware of anything, let alone one bad debate. They haven't had to think about Biden for four years. They won't even remember that come November if they ever did hear of it.

You're trading complacency and incumbency for a complete unknown. That's the dumbest fucking thing you can do, to put it lightly.

Yeah and give it two weeks and they'll all poll worse because the spin machine aimed at them.

People are deluded to think a fresh face is gonna be better than the incumbent.

Last save was insane. Kudos to that keeper.

Don't even have to fork. Just contribute to servo.

So Biden got more votes compared to Bernie so thus was more popular.

Thanks for confirming this.

So Biden won because voters coalesced around him.

Thanks again for reinforcing that point.

So Biden won fair and square because more primary voters voted for him.

Thanks for reinforcing that point.

But hey, don't vote for Biden because of a bad debate. After all, how much worse can more conservative justices be....

Not directed at you- just in general.

Progressive paradox. Simultaneously so popular but can never get enough votes.

This is simply fan fic.

There are two standards. Everyone expects Republicans to be lying shitheads so when they are, no one is surprised.

We somehow just accept this.

They won't answer. They're a bad faith fuck trying to get people not to vote for Biden.

Schafkopf rules.

I find if funny you and I are both explaining how things actually go left (overton window, policies, etc.) and these "leftists" (and I'm sure some are disinformation trolls) argue that it's not how you go left.

So I'm sure by abstaining from voting and Trump getting 4 more years will make their policies THAT much closer. You know, instead of dealing with a "centrist" like Biden (who passed the biggest climate change bill ever and the first to forgive student loans where he could, all with two actual centrist/asshole senators like Manchin and Sinema) who would push a little left still and actually cement more left policies in place that a future Republican would find hard to overturn.

But no- let's give Trump and the Rs more power. I'm sure single payer healthcare will be just around the corner then. /s

Biggest climate change law ever, forgave student loans, pardoned homosexual acts on the military, stood in picket lines, got railroad workers sick days, appointed a trust buster to the FTC.

Plenty more. And he's not trump. Got my vote and Anyone who isn't a complete dumbass, their vote too. Don't forget about who will pick new SCOTUS justices too.

Pay no attention. That person is a puritanical "leftist" who won't ever show up anyway. They're equivalent to a Russian troll sowing disinformation to discourage people.

The last three years did that. Idgaf about one bad debate.

The progressive paradox. Progressive ideas and politicians are soooo popular but there's always a reason they lost and it's never because progressives don't turn out.

This is so dumb. The Democratic party coalesced around Biden. If more people wanted Bernie then they should've fucking voted for him in the primary.

I did but can easily recognize not enough of others did.