Liquid Death Quietly Adds Stevia to Tea Drinks
Liquid Death Quietly Adds Stevia to Tea Drinks
I thought I had finally found a healthy drink I liked with no artificial sweetness and they had to go and fuck it up
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Stevia isn't artificial lol
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But it tastes artificial and fucks with lots of tummies.
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I think anything you're not used to has the potential to fuck with your tummy
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I have yet to find a low calorie sweetener that doesn't bother my digestive system. My wife, who lives on diet Pepsi, doesn't believe me.
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Yeah Stevia tastes like poison to me, super bitter.
Basically all artificial sweeteners taste like either bitter or nothing at all to me. So I'm really angry when I buy a product I've been buying for years and it suddenly tastes like a Nintendo Switch cartridge.
:(
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"Death to plastic"
"Here drink from this plastic-lined can" (https://www.plasticstoday.com/business/liquid-death-may-murder-your-thirst-but-it-won-t-kill-plastic-no-matter-what-the-ads-say)
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The unsweetened tea fight is a losing battle. The only way to get it is to make it yourself.
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This isn't unsweetened tea either. It's probably very sweet considering how high in the order agave syrup is
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What about tejava (spelling?)
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I thought stevia wasn't an artificial sweetener. It's just a leaf.
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Stevie leaf extract is a petroleum base sweetener. It was used as an artificial sweetener , but then they found that it could be naturally occurring in small quantities and rebranded. It works like natural flavors where it can still come from petroleum so long as its naturally occurring with some source. I find it extremely bitter and soapy, just like almost every other artificial sweetener.
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Could you give a source? I can't find ANY mention of stevia being "petroleum based".
Afaik Stevia is entirely produced from the shrub.
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sounds more like aspartame, aspartame is entirely artificial, stevia comes form the stevia plant.
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That's the trouble with words like 'artificial' and 'natural'. They mean nothing. It would be better to call them refined additives, because I expect the "stevia" would be in a refined, extracted form when added - whether substantially changed from the form present in the plant or not, this could be considered artificial, if we insist on using this word.
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This is what bothers me the most from marketing. Uranium, arsenic and petroleum are 100% natural too
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Careful, this drink contains chemicals!
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Sugar is refined.
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the oop said it came from petro, which isnt true. the substance which used to extract stevia isnt organic though, probably using an organic solvent, but they purify it to some extent. but alot of stevia brands only used the pure stevia from the plant.
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Stevia is not artificial you silly duck. And it's more sustainable to grow than the fucking sugar you hypocritically enjoy every day. Get over it.
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To clarify I don't necessarily have an issue with stevia itself it's the fact that it is usually mixed with erythritol which is bad for you.
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usually mixed with erythritol
Your photo shows no evidence of this.
is bad for you
I'm fucking done reading shit on the internet where people say things and expect us to believe them at face value. You made this statement, and it isn't my burden to provide evidence to prove you correct, you will.
Please provide everyone here a link for us to read and change our minds.
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Do you have any actual data showing that reasonable amounts of erythritol is worse for you than any alternatives?
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erythritol
Shouldn't that be on the label if it was in there too? How can you assume it is when it's not labelled?
IDK what shitty country this is from, but it's for sure an illegal label here (EU), on at least 2 counts.
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Weh, this got heated real quick.
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Stevia is incredibly misleading as a product
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I love how you say this, offer zero explanation as to why and just drop the mic.
I'm not here to defend Stevia, and I could give two shits about it; I'm here because I don't believe you, unless you please provide us all something to read, because we are done taking things people say at face value.
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You're wrong.
What is asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.
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I presume you're not from the US.
Many municipalities across the US have poor quality or non drinkable water, and many more do not offer public access to water fountains. Thus, bottled water is a huge market in the US as free facilities are not always available.
I'm Canadian and I legitimately cannot recall the last time I bought bottled or canned water. I bring my two 18.9L jugs to the store to fill them with filtered water for $5 and that's the extent of my "bottled water" consumption. Elsewhere, I carry a metal water bottle I can get refilled anywhere for free.
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Ahhh this line of logic. Yes, people can forego luxury items and save money while being healthier. You could never eat red meat, or drink soda, or have ice cream, sure, that would be much healthier and cheaper.
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Stevia can only be added in the manufacturing process by a cyclone valve which is actually quite noisy.
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I hate this brand, we now pay 6$ for water from a stupid can instead of having water bottles at festivals for 1-2$, the dude who owns it is friends with insomniacs owner, ruined the water supply at every festival. Redbull is typically cheaper than water now at 4$.
No ppl dont think you're drinking alcohol like they claim its for, that has never been a valid reaon to grab it, we all know its water, someone asking you for some water should be the first clue ppl dont think its alcohol.
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Cans are actually recyclable. That's the benefit. The rest is marketing.
Red Bull doesn't give you wings either.
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The reason venues live the cans is that that can't be recapped after opening, so they are harder to refill so you keep buying more instead of reupping in the bathroom.
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Where the fuck were you getting $2 water at festivals? I remember paying $5 for anything to drink back when the Mayhem Festival was still a thing.
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Insomniac like the video game company? Are they problematic? Or am I misunderstanding?
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The company behind massive music festivals like EDC.
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The company that has a monopoly on music festivals now, post covid especially.
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They keep raising prices, keep overselling down to the night of, damn near get crowd crushed every other festival, I kinda stopped going to the more mainstream ones because of it
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Forget your water backpack or theres a fat line? Liquid Death is there to empty your wallet, or you can die to dehydration.
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I'm sorry, you didn't actually think this beverage was healthy to begin with, right? Lol
For starters, agave is one of the highest fructose-containing sweeteners out there. Our bodies can't use fructose directly, so most fructose metabolism occurs in the liver where it's converted to glucose. Overconsumption of it may promote metabolic syndrome even more than glucose.
The only two sweeteners I use are date sugar (whole powderized dates), and rarely molasses. Unsweetened teas might be an acquired taste for some, but after getting used to it, they generally add plenty of sweetness on their own.
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Before this picture I thought Liquid Death was literally water in a can.
Had no idea they added stuff.
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Yeah the slogan goes "Don't be scared. It's just water." So same here, I thought it was just water lol.
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They have a few different products including plain water
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It used to be, before they diversified.
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Why do all the 0 calorie sweeteners have to taste like a dead hobo's arse?
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They don't
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The products containing them definitely taste weirder though.
Pepsi Max is about the only one that I think tastes decent. Fanta zero? Weird. Coca Cola Zero? Weird. Sprite Zero? Does nothing for me. Sugar free red bull? Ew.
Monster's white Ultra flavour, whatever it's called, is semi-ok. Watermelon Ultra is OK. But neither is as good as say, Aussie Lemonade, which has sugar in it.
Of course, I'm Estonian, so the baseline here is regular sugar, not HFCS. I love Fanta, but American Fanta was disgusting.
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Have you tried dead hobo's arse?
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This label part about plastics is what's called green-washing here, and is illegal unless what they are doing is a very signifikant part of the price of the product.
The labeling of what's NOT in the drink is also under similar regulation, but I don't recall what it's called. But the fact that a "sugar" drink doesn't contain fat is irrelevant and misleading.Whatever country this is from has bullshit regulation.
The thing that is ABSOLUTELY NOT a problem is the Stevia which is clearly labeled!So the "mildly infuriating" part is completely misguided compared to the real problems of that product.
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Just noticed, Carbs 3%, sugar 6% incl. added sugar 12%.
That's impossible! You can't have less carbs than sugar, since sugar is a carb. So these labels are probably illegal in EU on no less than 3 counts!!-
It's a US label and the percents are % of recommended daily intake. So that's 3% of your daily recommended carbohydrate intake, 6% of your daily recommended intake of sugar, and 12% of your daily recommended intake of "added" sugar. The recommendation is something like, no more than half of your carbs should come from sugar, and no more than half of those should be added during manufacturing (i.e. most of your sugar intake should be from fresh fruit, etc.). So the numbers do line up.
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In reality there is no recommended sugar intake. We can do perfectly well with zero grams of sugar every single day for a whole life, without it causing a single health issue.
So the label remains nonsense.There is a recommended intake of vegetables and fruit, but not for sugar. Not by any factual based health measure.
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Whatever country this is from has bullshit regulation.
I'll give you one guess....
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The only country I know of, that could have this shitty and misleading label and still be legal is USA, but I don't know that for a fact.
I think if I saw these labels here in Denmark, I would call the police or health authorities immediately on the spot, which are responsible for enforcing declaration rules on items meant for consumption.Those labels are not merely mildly infuriating, they are attempts at scamming consumers.
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The only benefit this company offers with their beverages is the non-alcoholic-but-not-NA-beer tall-boy. My recovering alcoholic friend brings these to parties if he knows people will be drinking and just hold one and I've watched him go sober through so many situations where he'd probably have had a drink before. Not that these are the only options for that, though, obviously.
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it has infected everything and it's fucking awful.
I'd be interested in finding out if there's a genetic component to this, like people who taste soap in coriander, because I can't believe any reasonable person would put this nonsense in anything they want to make a profit on.
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There must be something. I see so many comments and how horrible it tastes and honestly I can't tell the difference. I sprinkle this stuff on my bran cereal and it tastes fine to me.
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Are they? These seem to be completely different products to me. One has caffeine and artificial sugar whereas the other has neither. I'd have a hard time believing these are the same products and not just similar ones with confusing names
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Those are both their Dead Billionare product and they do both have caffeine. In the old can design it was just listed somewhere else not shown
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Man fuck that. I wanted to try these specifically because they said they only used agave syrup as a sweetener. Stevia, suclarose and aspartame always have this weird aftertaste and mouth feel.
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Flavored Liquid Death tastes like absolute ass to begin with. It's like unsweetened/lightly sweetened drinks targeted at Monster drinkers
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This entire thread had been really disheartening
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Anything in a can is not going to be good for us
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Why do you think that?
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The drink on the right is caffeinated, maybe that's why they added sweetener? The label on the left doesn't mention caffeine.
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My fiance loves liquid death because it didn’t have anything for sweetness aside from the agave. Now all he’s gonna taste is the stevia. :(
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On the plus side, stevia isn't artificial.
What is "artificial?"
It is all marketing BS
Generally, artificial sweeteners are chemically synthesized while natural sweeteners are grown and refined.
I used to grow the stevia plant in my garden.
That's precisely why I use it in my coffee and have for many years. However there's a big difference from one brand to another I've found. Sweet Leaf stevia drops are the only kind I'll use now.
i use it too, because almost all the other brands have dextrose, which is basically actual sugar, or ehtyrithiol, which is a sweetener, but it can cause GI issues. I bought 2 boxes from amazon to try it out, its worht it. its pricey but not sugar is better.
It's interesting to read people's reactions to stevia. I don't seem to have the same reactions/aftertaste others point out.
I much prefer stevia over other sweeteners. I wonder if there is some sort of cilantro type thing going on.
Edit: Turns out stevia can taste different to other people!
Why wouldn't you just use sugar
If you are going to mistreat your body then go big or go home.
You do realize manufactures have to wear gas masks when pouring in that junk right?
I prefer stevia to just regular sugar. I go out of my way when buying soda to get ones with stevia because they just taste better.
its sweet, but aspartame is generally not good for you long term.
Might not be artificial, but it doesn't look natural in sweetener form:
The process of extracting stevia -
Dried stevia leaves are subjected to purified water first. Then followed by a precipitation process with ferric chloride and calcium hydroxide to remove non-soluble plant materials & other impurities and follow filtration.
Then the leaf extract goes through an adsorption resin, which is used to trap the steviol glycosides of the leaf extract.
Afterward, wash the resin with ethanol to release steviol glycosides and decolorize the resulting solution with activated carbon to remove the colors in leaves, and then concentrated by evaporation.
Again, go through the process of decolorization, filtration and spray-drying. The spray-dried product is then combined with similarly processed additional extracts, dissolved in ethanol and/or methanol, crystallized and filtered. Finally, after further processes of crystallization, filtered and spray-dried to obtain pure stevioside.
Taken from here: https://foodadditives.net/natural-sweeteners/stevioside/#easy-footnote-bottom-1-1949
You don't know how sugar is made, do you?
So they’re washed with soap and water? Must we use the scariest language possible here?
Yeah , it’s from an actual plant.
Unless it's mixed with erythritol
The ingredients only say stevia leaf extract, nothing about erythritol.
some people dont like the taste of stevia, i used at least the ones that have actual stevia, and not just filled with dextrose, which is basically sugar, or ethyrithiol. its pricier and less sweet. ALot of stevia products will have sugar in it. i buy the sweet leaf, i heard you can get pure stevia leaves, but its expensive.