Guns

Im someone who likes to shoot a gun at targets at the range. I find it SO creepy and unnerving when it becomes clear that someone would like to shoot at a person. They don't usually outright say it, but some make it clear in other ways.

Right? Like in my ideal world, guns would be a hobby for weird nerds in the same way fencing is today. The one or two times I have felt like there's even a small chance I may need to use a gun in self defense were terrifying and stressful.
- There's quite a few hobbies where the other people who meet up to participate as a group as a group are a huge turnoff.
  Guns are one of those hobbies for me.
The "Go ahead and make my day" crowd.
- Ew what a horrible, gross thing to say
  Heard it a buncha times without ever really hearing it
- These days it's FAFO. I used to work with someone and he would shoehorn that into conversations completely unprovoked...like he itching to find any excuse to shoot someone
- There's a severe epidemic of "I wish a motherfucker would" going around.
Can't find it now, but there was an image of a police target floating around that had the outline of a person holding up a cell phone camera.
Dystopian AF.

Sounds like my former coworker showing off his new gun on Facebook a few years back, with the post "I can't wait to use this to defend my family."

People like to think that because they own a gun, if they ever got to use it they would be John Wick.
- What they don't realize is that Keanu Reeves does a ton of training, and even occasionally does competitions
As someone seriously considering their first firearm purchase, my main thought is "I hope this is a gigantic waste of time and money".

When the average right winger treats guns like toys it's a good sign for every leftist to also own guns.

I dont see a problem with owning guns. Its just taken too lightly in the states. To get a gun where im at, you need to get certified - theoretical, physical and psychological tests are done. And no one starts pissing about personal freedoms if they fail these tests. I think you also need to be member of a shooting club. Point is, you need to demonstrate your ability to handle a weapon responsibly. Im not one to confuse correlation with causation but... you dont see many stories of shootings here.
- Cool, if the dumb as shit fascist down the street owns a gun and wants you to die for being different then you need to protect yourself.
I can’t fathom how people saw police beating protesters to death in 2020, are decrying the new Trump presidency as the rise of fascism in America, and still believe that the government should be the only ones with firepower in their hands.
Now is exactly the time when the left should be rallying behind the second amendment.
The only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun
- How would you stop a fascist with a gun that wants to put you in a camp?
  If you are lgbtq, on any mental health medication, or a immigrant as a result of natrual born citizenships then you need to realistically ask yourself this question, because that's the stated policy of the new president.
- Demonstrably false.
  “The actual data show that some of these kind of heroic, Hollywood moments of armed citizens taking out active shooters are just extraordinarily rare,” Mr. Lankford said.
  In fact, having more than one armed person at the scene who is not a member of law enforcement can create confusion and carry dire risks. An armed bystander who shot and killed an attacker in 2021 in Arvada, Colo., was himself shot and killed by the police, who mistook him for the gunman.
  It was twice as common for bystanders to physically subdue the attackers, often by tackling or striking them. At Seattle Pacific University in 2014, a student security guard pepper sprayed and tackled a gunman who was reloading his weapon during an attack that killed one and injured three others. The guard took the attacker’s gun away and held the attacker until law enforcement arrived. When a gunman entered a classroom at the University of North Carolina at Charlotte in 2019, a student tackled him. The student was shot and killed, but the police chief said the attack would have had a far worse death toll had the student not intervened.
  https://archive.is/xQqYY
- The best way to stop a good guy with a gun is to shoot first (in countries where there's a good chance you might be shot if you're committing a crime)

You would have thought that after January 6th/George Floydd protests, and the lack of justice that followed both, would have finally shown liberals they cannot rely on cops and the "justice" system for personal protection.

Yet here we are.

My body, my choice to protect it the way i wish. Fuck off gun grabbers. Prisoners are forced to give up all their rights and yet they are still not safe in prison. I refuse to be your prisoner.

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You are seriously arguing that the corruption in our police system means there is no protection? This is objectively false.
I would trust an officer over Ultragagginggunnut any day of the week.
The only prisoners are our school children who have to drill for gun violence in their school. Kids who live in fear that their classmates will kill them because they brought another gun nutters unsecured gun to school.
The prisoners are the wives and partners of every abusive gun owner. Scared to leave because they know that it could cost their lives. You ever been raped at gun point? Yeah, didn't think so.
The prisoners are our society that has to deal with the commercialization of gun ownership and the radicalization of the NRA. Everyday they make our society more unsafe in the name of profits.
The problem isn't guns, it is people like you that think they solve problems. Guns create problems not solve them.
They need to be tightly controlled to keep them away from people who are mentally unwell. People that think they are the "prisoners" fantasizing about defending their rights and overthrowing the government.
- You must be white passing and at least middle class to trust bringing the police into any situation.
- All of your responses are being downvoted and for good reason. Maybe you need to rethink some things
- I know you got downvoted, but in other countries and anywhere other than lemmy, the US and truth social, this is actually normal
  It's crazy that extremist groups like the NRA have managed to brainwash so many Americans
I choose to protect my body by you not having guns.
Edit: I don't, but I think you can see the error in your argument now.
- I'm sure this sounded convincing in your head.
How would guns have helped in the George Floyd case?
- More protesters would have been shot. The movement would have been demonized even more than it was.
  The protests were already overwhelming peaceful. To re-envision history saying "moars guns" would have helped is pretty bizarre gun nutters nonsense.
- Is this a serious question?
  Do you believe armed protesters are easier or more difficult to suppress?
- The BLM protestors who marched with guns in Georgia didn't get fucked with by the cops at all, because the cops were scared. Look it up.
  Other BLM protestors got beat down by cops in riot gear, in countless examples across the country (when the protestors were unarmed).

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murders_of_Haile_Kifer_and_Nicholas_Brady

TLDR: man lures teens into his home by leaving his house wide open so he could shoot and kill them.

The absolute sicko made audio recordings where he floated about killing them.

This case is horrible, but you have misrepresented it in your comments. The teens broke a window and entered his house with the intention to rob it—it was not left wide open. The recording devices were turned on because he knew they were robbing the house. His first shots to stop the intruders were legal.
Where the crime occurred is that the original shots did not kill them, and then he executed them after they were downed. He also did not report the bodies for a day.
Don’t get me wrong, dude is a psychopathic asshole, but misrepresenting the series of events doesn’t help anybody.
- They weren't, they went over this in the trial.
  He became the aggressor when he removed barriers to entry and laid in wait which is a negative defense for self defense.
- With the premise the OP presented, I expected something worse than what was actually there. It was still horrible, but the impact was lessened for the reasons you listed.
  Interesting how someone can manufacture consent like that by shifting your initial view.
- It's been a long time since I've heard about this case, but my recollection was that he left his garage door open and parked away from his house so it would appear open and unoccupied. I didn't see anything on the Wikipedia page that refutes that.
This is the absolute truth. I personally know a guy who pulls out a huge roll of money just to buy a $1 pop from a machine at night. He carries, has been for years. He is trying to get someone to mug him. You know why.
- The kids weren't blameless. But they didn't deserve to die.
I remember this showing up on Reddit and people sick ass redditors justifying his actions. So sick.

And in some places the 'h' is silent 😉
- 'Omosexuals, and 'eterosexuals? Yeah I think that place is England and they just talk like that. Its their language they're allowed to speak it horribly

"preferably a minority"

Also https://youtu.be/45glq7huJJc

Honestly, I was thinking of this
White Man & Black Man Carry AR-15 Rifles In Open Carry Video Experiment
A recent video posted to YouTube by Willie Upchuck captures the same incident resulting in two distinctively different responses from police. A White gentleman is politely questioned by police, while a Black man is harshly told to get on the ground at gunpoint.
- The black man that volunteered for that must have a death wish. He had to have gone into that thinking there was a very good chance the police would shoot him on sight.
"... but if you can't, please make sure they enter unarmed so I can shoot them safely"

Every time I see someone say that even the most lenient of gun regulations shouldn't be passed in the U.S., all I can do is picture them at home calling their guns "precious" like Gollum.

That's really what it comes down to.

These people want an "excuse" to murder someone.

Yes those people do
And then there's a ton of people that have guns, train when they can and hope they never have to use their skills outside of the range or competitions. We never ever hear about them because they are normal people
- The reality is that most of the imagined scenarios which cause a person to want a gun for self defense are rooted in some form of these same delusions. They really are just not as useful in as many situations as people think they are, and these people almost never take far simpler measures to deal with their real threat profile.

Lol I have several guns. Some I don't know if I even have ammo for them at all.

I can't imagine the mindset these types of owners have. They are afraid and they want to murder someone. I can't imagine

Hell, the few rifles I have are stored with the firing bolts removed and locked up separately.

If I had to kill somebody, I'd be scarred for life. Even if it was clearly in self defense.
Yet I've talked to gun owners who fantasize about getting the drop on a burglar and shooting them dead or something like that. I don't know if they're actually that bloodthirsty or just delusional, but either way it's pretty disturbing.
- It’s both.
  Our systems have taught them that criminals are worthless disgusting inhuman animals who deserve death, and they’ve never considered the trauma associated with killing someone.
  Plenty of veterans lives are ruined by shit like that, and they signed up for it. A little basement dwelling incel couldn’t even comprehend the trauma.
  And let’s not forget the statistics of the people who break into your house. It’s likely someone you know. Are you prepared to shoot your friend?
- I think it's the marketing. Everything has to me monetized or giggified and it's hard for us to just do stuff for no good reason (like collect and/or shoot guns). We've got to justify by protecting ou family from the zombie apocalypse or crime waves or something.
  I think a lot of it is whistling in the dark as well. Our powerlessness coupled with hyper individualism and lack of social support makes for some pretty uncomfortable truths.
  Plus the grab bag of racism and misdirected class fear.
- Oh same. I've talked with friends about conceal carry. We all agree it would be the scariest thing possible to actually need to use it. We'll pretty much want to exhaust all other options including running the fuck away first.
  We couldn't imagine the idea of actually living with having murdered someone. I know I'd pretty much immediately end up in therapy to help process it.
- I wouldn't mind having to kill anyone. It would definitely give me joy and excitement although I don't actively hope I'll get to use my gun.
You sound like a responsible gun owner and not a gun nut.

Ammosexual

Anyways, that's how i killed my daughter.

Murica.

Every Republican ever be like

Way too true, I know too many people who are genuinely like this my brother included. If people have this kind of mindset they shouldn't be allowed to own guns, it is a tragedy waiting to happen.

Untill then there's lots of schools.

Thanks for reminding me of Cyanide and Happiness' Guns short.

opens closet

finds box with "Retirement Policy" written on it

yep, safe and sound

Sounds like you have an obsession with guns

Please, Please, Please let the second continuation of this comic be him hearing a doorbell, grabbing some of his guns, then looking through the door's peep hole to see two Mormon's in suits holding a Bible.