This election is likely going to be looked back on as the point when things became completely untenable in the 21st century. The American empire will implode, billions will suffer, the climate emergency will accelerate to maximum, and geopolitical dynamics will become incredibly unstable. Shit is about to go fully awry. This was it, and the people who are already bored about it have played no small part in getting us here.
After 10 years, there will be no megafauna looking back at anything. We extincted ourselves and the planet. By far the stupidest species is us, and the IQ test was whether we could just not kill ourselves with our own waste. There's a species of insect in Africa that's lived on 1 rock for thousands of years and they are smarter than us in this regard.
We passed 7 of 9 planetary boundaries. We don't talk about this or even the possible election interference that occurred because our media and journalism is broken. I can see personal videos on people's personal accounts of the flooding in Spain, yet media in the US is failing to report extensively on this especially as a climate disaster. People literally believe that the government controls the weather before they believe that climate change is real (and please make sure to attribute all the increasingly bad disasters under Trump to him specifically).
I have had conversations about why basic rights are necessary. Conversations where I'm citing the fucking constitution and posting videos of speeches from the fucking 60s. I have to explain why ableism is bad.
Fascism is, frankly, part of the human collective psyche. It's akin to an autoimmune response, so much so that there's biochemical markers* in common with both states. The only way to calm down fascism is either let it eat itself (aka lots of death), or to be a collective anti-inflammatory. This means looking at things like Buddhist ideals of detachment and peace, Muslim ideals of charity (they invented the first hospitals which were free), Christian ideals of gathering together. Soothe and redirect (like a toddler) people who engage in inflammatory and violent speech. Win people over (being othering and exclusive is inflammatory - saying you can't stand Trump voters is inflammatory and part of why those Trump people like Trump and Christianity - they include the deplorables).
And btw if political structures are akin to lymphatic system, journalism and communications are our nervous system. Just like in the body, one can attack and modify the other - our autoimmune response has severely damaged our nervous system and we kinda have the societal equivalent of relearning from a stroke in some ways.
*So much so that often a key dogwhistle for fascist speech is othering someone by calling them a tumor, parasite, cancer. Biochemicals responsible - low oxytocin (which is why they are pedophiles), histamine, mast cells, cortisol draining. See the undereye wasting of people in high stress including that little boy who was lost in the woods and in meth addicts
"Can we just get over the fact that your foot is blown off? It's bumming me out."
No
When has apathy ever backfired though??
I'm not sure what apathy is and I don't care!
No. No, we can't "move on" from the election, because elections have consequences. We will never be able to "move on" because we will be continuously fucked by those consequences, in the ass with no lube, for the rest of our lives.
Even if Trump and the GOP give up power and the US holds free and fair elections in four years, an absolute fuck-ton of permanent damage will have been done in the meantime.
There are so many things at stake, but people really don't know how bad Trump's supreme court has fucked the environment already. Getting the average voter to care about it won't happen until it's far too late. I try to just not think about it.
Considering it affects a lot of people, negatively, it is rightfully a topic.
It has impacted no one yet. It is only November
Which means it's time to prepare. Get out of the states, change name/gender, try to minimize (ecological) contact with the USA etc.
Sounds pretty fucking privileged that you even have the option of moving on from the topic
I haven't seen anything productive in any of the conversations about it I've looked at. Just fingerpointing at who's to blame. It's pointless to argue now.
You might be right, but sometimes we sort through things by saying the wrong things first.
It is pretty easy to do. You just move on.
This is a big topic after all so there is no way one can just "move on".
In that case can you move to the dedicated political communities then?
I'll move my foot to its dedicated spot in your ass.
- Red Foreman
As a Brazilian nervously watching the unfolding of a potentially global mess, I bring you the best Brazil can offer: memes! Here's a pretty relatable one (Original cartoon from Maurício de Souza, Turma da Mônica)
Lemmy in a nutshell
Lucky for you thanks for MAGA and non voters there will not be another free US election
Until 4 years from now
We have a system of checks and balances for a reason
...between the branches of government, which the R's just swept. Add in the fact that the supreme Court just gave the president criminal immunity if it's "official" (a term they define), and who exactly is going to check and balance?
That's accurate to how I feel inside. GOP got it all. So nothing can really stop their agenda. Which sucks if you're not white male.
judging by project 2025 they can stop their own agenda by not being able to agree what it is.
I thought the image would reflect the GOP right now. Instead here I am with egg on my face.
Unfortunately, one thing with GOP is they may disagree but tend to fall in line.
Except that is not really true...
Trump may not be in line with your political beliefs but somehow I doubt all of the crazy stuff I've heard said. He isn't creating death camps or deporting democrats to Mexico.
If the past is any indicator of the future then we can expect the next four years to be non-stop Trump posting.
Are people dumb enough to think our world is going to continue as it has, just keep making memes, move on? We done fucked up, there will be nothing to move on to.
Right? That was possibly the last election for president our country will hold. No, I can't just move on from it.
Like Biden will likely have to leave the country once he's no longer president, along with his whole family. Taylor Swift might have to leave. Who knows what this raging narcissist will do.
A man who will rape, which is sexual torture, doesnt care about you or your body except how it pleases him. Including killing you. We are very fucked. He will punish us until his narcissistic ego feels satiated.
The US has the top military budget and nuclear weapons, which was just given to an open fascist who is clearly in the pocket of a foreign power, which has an interest in destroying our country.
With that mentality you are screwed regardless.
Chill
No. You and we all are too. Unless you Simpson the result this is it. The end. Go pic your damn last song for your and everyone's life you got, maybe, 5 years left but I doubt that much.
We can’t move on without a proper segue. How about politics+beans memes? I can’t imagine anyone would be unhappy with that.
Hasn't taken a shit for 3 election seasons!
When need something better than beans...
I don't know what it is but I'm sure its out there.
"He was only stabbed 23 times on the floor of the senate. We need to move on ... and then finish wiping up the floor."
More like this...
Can we just move on from the US 2024 election?
Yeah sure. Just find someone who can put me in a medical coma, and I'll 'forget' all about it.
Oh don't worry. Many from Europe/Germany are focusing on our broken government right now.
Attention everyone there was a major US election that took place 2 days ago resulting in Trump winning
If you get on social media for the next month (probably more) you are going to see politics unless you filter it out or get off social media
Can we just accept reality and move on?
What's the worse thing that could happen? People are freaking out like the world is ending but we have had arguably worse presidents historically
When have we had someone with a worse agenda than Project 2025? When was the last time someone threatened to become a dictator in this country? When was the last time the president who advocates for the encampment of all "illegals" was given the house, senate, and courts, allowed to do whatever they wanted with their cult of personality following their every whim? What the fuck kind of presidents do you think we've had previously?!?
If you don't see it it's not happening.
Sure!
So how about this climate change huh? Ecological collapse in just a couple of decades from what I hear. And really no one with significant power anywhere doing anything but speeding it up.
Discuss.
Ask us again in four years... I fucking hope.
Totally unrelated question. I just noticed the door and its locks. Does it have four locks? Or is it a lock above each doorknob? I've never seen a door like that.
Often when tenants lose keys to a deadbolt, a shady landlord or superintendent will say the knob lock is “good enough” to avoid paying to have the deadbolt replaced. Consequently, tenants might install their own deadbolts.
You might ask, why not just replace the existing lock!? Well, the super is going to call a locksmith to do that, and the locksmith can charge more for installing a new lock rather than replacing the old one. Plus, an extra lock when everyone’s is home for the evening == extra security.
No no no, why would we want to MOVE on from this 🧐👆. I MUST voice out my DISSATISFACTION with this election's results 😤🇺🇸 even in NOn political spaces 💪 in the process shrouding other content that has nothing to do with it👏. I must also make it known to NON AMERICANS just how much this affects them as well 😔😔 because AMERICA 🇺🇸😤🦅 is the CENTER OF THE WORLD.
RAHHHH!! WHAT THE FUCK IS A KILOMETER!!!!🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🦅🦅🦅👮🔫🔫🔫🔫🙍🏿♂️
this, but unironically. Largest economy in the world, largest military in the world, and we just handed it to a giant toddler who thinks I should be tortured and killed for being gay. If you think you won't be affected, then you're as stupid as I am for thinking this country had a chance.
What a narcissistic thing to say: "oH, We HavE tHe LArGeST EConOMy, mILItaRY, and blah blah blah". There are many countries in the world that have dealt with serious problems before Trump was ever elected, would have still dealt with those problems if Kamala won the election, and will continue to face these problems after Trump's term.
You're speaking from your high seat of privilege ignorant of the happenings in other places. What gives you the right to tell me how my life is going to be affected because of this. Like Kamala was some fucking Messiah that would have rid the world of all its problems.
Get off your high horse man. There are places that have been shitty before you were ever born, and will be shitty after your death.
They do the same thing tankies do. At some point it is necessary to touch grass. (or snow)
Ironic! This post is a direct violation of rule 2. No politics.
If you haven't noticed that's all of Lemmy. This is the last post I will make that is political related.
I saw this post earlier and figured it was more of a meta post about discussions on Lemmy rather than a political post itself, but the thread is getting too heated for a meme community, and I'm going to lock.
Yeah it would be nice to have some interesting things again.
