Unbelievable
Unbelievable
https://social.ridetrans.it/users/daihard/statuses/112941278386750975
Link in the post: https://publicola.com/2024/08/09/kevin-dave-officer-who-struck-and-killed-23-year-old-student-is-challenging-his-traffic-ticket/
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Obligatory ACAB
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I know several cops and they are all great people. I live in Europe though, and hating all cops isn't luckily considered normal here.
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I know several ex-cops because they saw everyone around them was a bastard, they are great people.
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I live in Canada and also know several cops who are great people;however, even they would not raise a finger to expose fellow cops who are indeed bastards
That's the problem, it's not a few bad apples, it's a shit ton of them and the few remaining good apples are too afraid or just not care to do anything about the rest
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I know several cops and they are all great people.
No, they aren't. Even if they are kind and friendly to you, they are still cops. They are still the state sanctioned users of violence whose primary job is to keep the status quo in which the rich own everything, and the workers don't. Where people live on the streets and children go hungry.
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It probably helps that in most European countries police training is in the thousands of hours and in America it's under 6 months.
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Here in Vic Australia too. They're mostly legends
The only people I know who hate cops here hate them because they either didn't solve their issue, or they are generally known to act like asses.
It probably also helps that nobody carries guns here so they can operate on a shoot last, ask questions first policy
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I get a different vibe from cops in Europe, and I wonder if it has to do with countries where they have mandatory military conscription / civil service.
I sometimes wonder if in the US, we had some kind of system where everyone was forced to serve as a police officer, say between the ages of 18 and 21, we would have an entirely different system. Instead of attracting power hungry psycho killers, you would have normal people who understood they were performing a required service for their community and society in general. You might then get more mutual respect between cops and civilians since everybody will have been on both sides.
Also, it’s almost as if anyone who wants to be a cop should be immediately disqualified. Same with politicians.
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Same. I'm in the US, and every cop I've personally interacted with has been reasonable and professional. But I'm pretty mainstream (not a minority, dress conservatively, etc), so generally not a target for police enforcement. So it's hard for me to know whether my local police are better than average, or if our heavy demographic skew is the main contributor to our low crime rate (i.e. they could still be targeting minorities unfairly, it just wouldn't be clear from general stats).
Regardless, even my local police have far too much power, so I'm absolutely in favor of ending qualified immunity and splitting the force into armed and unarmed officers. We've had some local incidents of police overstepping their bounds (e.g. I'm in Utah and remember this incident very clearly, though that was in another jurisdiction).
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It's pretty normal in say, Italy and Spain (or at least populated/Catalonian parts of Spain). Everyone immediately brings up Genoa G8 when a police do stuff.
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I know several cops and they are all great people.
No they aren't.
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I'm curious in which European country. At least here in Germany ACAB definitely applies
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Generalist bullshit. Well overplayed, always has been.
This idiot is more than a bastard. And other cops aren't.
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So then why do they chose to defend and enable bastards like this guy?
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This argument goes around and around every time someone says ACAB. There is a culture of protecting your own in police forces - it seems to happen all around the world. This culture causes otherwise good cops to overlook actions of their peers that shouldn't be overlooked. If you let someone get away with something illegal, when your job is to uphold the law, then you are not doing your job and are really not a good cop after all - you're just as bad as your peers. ACAB is a much simpler way of saying all that.
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Nope, if others were not bastards, this guy would not be on the force and would be in jail. They rally ‘round the family….
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And other cops aren’t.
We have here, from this case alone:
- 1 absolutely insane individual who recklessly killed Jaahnavi Kandula, Kevin Dave.
- Daniel Auderer, who laughed at her death and said she was lower value anyway
- Mike Solan, who didn't shut Daniel down the moment he said that, also coincidentally SPOG president
- Whomever is authorized to discharge all 3 of these
- Whomever gave any of these 3 their positions
- The Union that defends these guys
- The cops willingly giving money to that Union
We have more of such cases than Police Unions.
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All cops. No exceptions. They are raised by selfish parents to be a selfish person who sees others as beneath them. It's how cops are found, look for the greediest person in the room who would hurt others for gain and make them a lap dog. Cops aren't smart enough to know they are being used. All cops. No exceptions.
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Think of the system like a force field (the physics kind, not the scifi kind). It pulls bastards into it. If you're not, you're in its presence, and you're susceptible to its effects. It's more like "No Humans Are Immune To The Corrupting Influence Of Militarized Institutions" but ACAB is a lot easier to say.
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She’s not getting back together with you lmao get over it
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People like this deserve one thing only, but saying what they deserve will get you banned from some instances.
I've got a friend who, thanks to close family of hers being a cop, is still unconvinced of cops status as bastards.
It's getting more and more frustrating listening to her justify why other cops don't do anything about these kinds of cops. Still can't accept the ones that do nothing are just as culpable. Accessories, in many cases.
If I stand next to my buddy as he kicks a guy to death, I will be getting jail time too. Why not cops?
This piece of shit deserved prison when he killed someone. His actions after the fact show he has no regard for human life and as such is a danger to others by simply being alive.
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When a sentient transporter room displays more wisdom than ~75% of politicians, it is more or less guaranteed that the country is fucked.
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People like this deserve one thing only, but saying what they deserve will get you banned from some instances.
As it should be. The strongest penalty for anyone should be life imprisonment. I don't care if you're literally a terrorist who has killed thousands of people, if you can be arrested without risking the lives of officers, you should face a maximum sentence of time in prison.
That said, I agree with the rest of what you said. This cop should be in prison for a long time.
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Because your analogy is terrible.
It's more like saying that one dude in your friend group from when you were in your twenties always tried to get in fights whenever you went out went on to murder someone one day without you being there or around. You're now also blamed for the murder because you ran with him.
Or even better, your older scumbag sibling murdered someone, or parent.
The vast majority of these people aren't even working together. They barely know who each other are in large departments.
They also have one of the strongest unions in the USA coupled with institutional laws that protect them by default with little statistical tracking.
Those aren't issues where you blame people through proxy lol.
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Give them a mile and they still reach for that last extra inch.
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If A-train was a cop
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Nah, A-Train at least felt some remorse and ended up having a breakdown.
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The driver's license thing is misleading - he had an Arizona license, so "didn't have a Washington license", but was still legal to drive.
The department is legally not able to issue any discipline until the investigation concludes, and they are not able to conclude the investigation while the appeals process on the fine plays out. Due process is slow. Hopefully in the end he gets everything coming to him.
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Isn't the issue that he was living and working in Washington but still had an Arizona license? Most states require you to get that changed over within 6-12 months of moving there.
He definitely wasn't commuting...
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I feel like this is a very naive process that implies due process works, albeit slowly, even for cops who fuck up. It doesn't work because cops, DAs and judges all protect each other.
Also, most insurance companies will nail you for misrepresentation or fraud if your driver's license license address isn't updating accordingly with your current address, because different areas have different likelihoods for accidents.
I just don't get why people are so quick to defend cops or give them the benefit of the doubt over stuff like this.
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how does a cop not have a license? huh?
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Laws for thee but not for me.
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Laws for you, not for steaming piles of poo
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Probably failed to renew.
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AND their consent decree just ended! But remeber, the CHAZ was liberals trying to overthrow the government. Or something.
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No, entirely believable. This is what being a cop is all about. You get to do whatever you want and murder whoever you want.
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That's just not true. Cops are not allowed to kill important people, like family of important politicians or rich people. There are limits on their power.
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Wait a minute! That sounds like the stuff a president can do according to the supremes! No way a cop has the same power as a president! 🙀!
Good thing the supremes are there for life to tell us what to do 💕
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Haha exactly. I came here to say "sounds about right" but saw your comment first.
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is it bad that the worst thing in this entire situation is the fact that he somehow didnt have a drivers license while on the force?
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I believe the worst thing is that he killed someone, but that's just like my opinion, man.
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i mean yeah, that's pretty bad, but like, he also shouldn't have been driving in the first place so.
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That and, you know, the dead 23 year old.
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Yeah, he really should've gotten a ticket for that.
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The moment he put the car into drive he should have immediately pulled himself over and issued himself a verbal warning.
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idk man, probably charged and arrested, but what do i know, i'm not a cop.
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Dude reminds me of A-Train
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I will NEVER condone vigilantism or street justice, because its a slippery slope into chaos as people start taking matter into their own hands, possibly harming innocent people just on suspicion of guilt
Unrelated:
heres his full name, birth year, badge number, every unit he's been in, his date of hire, every write up hes had since 2011, and his current salary
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its crazy that they pay this man 88k a year and all he does is run over minorities and look stupid
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Number of known incidents: 0
Something ain't right...
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its a slippery slope into chaos
sounds exactly like what those gangs with badges are doing over there.
if they only had any law enforcement in that poor country! then they could stop such crimes and start to build up civilisation instead.
possibly harming innocent people
that argument is way too weak, when "possibly" harming innocent is the alternative to "de-facto" harming innocent, that "possibly" is obviously the better choice then because there would still be a chance to NOT harm the innocent. get better arguments or remove crimes and criminals from law enforcement.
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oh if you think i am defending cops then i have failed terribly at communicating the sarcasm and disdain in my tone lemme try again
OH NOES
PUBWIC OFFICIAWS NAMES AND UNIT NUMBERS ARE PUBWIC KNOWEDGE?
I HOPE NOWOBODY USES THIS INFOWO TO DO CWIMES! nyaaa! :3
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For justice, we must go to Don Corleone.
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meanwhile in other countries:
"could lead to their dismissal, assured Zamora, and possible prison time"
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"following a complaint from the Police itself, the agents were detained"
my citing is a bit misleading, and you have to read it completely yourself, but overall it looks very different there.
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This is the case where the police union official said that the victim's life had "limited value" - https://publicola.com/2023/09/11/write-a-check-for-11000-she-was-26-she-had-limited-value-spd-officer-jokes-with-police-union-leader-about-killing-of-pedestrian-by-fellow-cop/
If good cops existed, they would shoot these guys.
The second you say a person's life has limited value, your life becomes limited in value.
Which is exactly why I'm against the death penalty and in favor of legalizing and taxing recreational drugs to fund rehab. I don't care if you're the Dalai Lama or a homeless drug addict, every life has equal value in my eyes.
Just to shake the wasps nest, what about Nazis?