things you can only do with boys
things you can only do with boys
things you can only do with boys
I would argue the top picture is also a big no no.
I thought that is the point
Dark Arc is saying that it is generally considered a bad thing, contrary to the comic which is implying that it is generally considered good or neutral when it should be considered bad.
I don't think it really takes a side ... just kind of points out that it's super weird that it's more socially acceptable in one direction than the other.
I do hope the author intended for what I said to be the point though.
You'd think so, but a disturbing number of people think the problem is there is a difference, not the nude photos.
Definitely, there's nothing "cute" about nude photos of children.
Yeah that's kinda the point.
Eh. I have plenty of pictures of my daughter naked as a baby. The weird part of this is showing off the naked picture to a stranger on the bus and making mention of the genitals in specific.
Anyway, everyone knows that naked baby pictures are used to torture children in front of their serious romantic partners brought home for the first time. This has not happened in my 14-year-old daughter's life yet, but I hope to one day have this privilege that comes with parenting.
My response, when my mom showed my first partner naked baby pictures was to nudge my partner and say "don't worry, I'll send you some more recent ones.
My mom super didn't appreciate the joke, but she never pulled out baby pictures for future partners.
This is hilarious. Good comeback.
Gonna show your new step dad all the naked pics of your mom you have?
That's weird
Downvoted because taking pictures of your child is still weird even though you don't show them to anyone
Sorry... taking pictures of a child is weird?
Do you think cameras steal the soul or something?
Oh ew that’s some borderline pedo shit. “Here’s the person you’re fucking as a baby. Hahaha you’re sexually attracted to a baby. I created child pornography just to make you uncomfortable because you’re a normal, non-pedophilic person”
Sorry, you think taking a photo of a baby when they're born is done with the express purpose of doing something decades later?
You guys want to consider gender in vacuum but it is never a good idea.
Look at the sexualisation and brainwashing of the girls and patriarchy and men having this big power gap and sometimes using it in the worst of the ways. This is why the second image is big wtf while the first is small wtf.
That’s because in the first no one would immediately think that they sexualise the boy while in the second we arrive at this conclusion immediately and without hesitation thanks to all the hard work of men thorought history.
I know having this original sin of your fathers on your shoulders is not a cool feeling but this is the reality we are in.
No one in the picture or the audience is sexualizing little girls (or boys). Instead, the outrage is caused by harmful expectations of purity that are imposed on girls and women, but not boys. As well as the current moral panic about pedophilia, which again is unhelpful in actuality protecting children.
Want to protect help children from predators? Help them remove the stigma around their bodies and sex, and empower them to speak and be heard when something they don’t like happens. Failing to do so reinforces the feelings of shame that all too often enable predators to get away with what they do.
And maybe also don’t share potentially embarrassing photos without consent but that’s small potatoes compared to the above issues.
Help them remove the stigma around their bodies and sex, and empower them to speak and be heard when something they don’t like happens.
This. So much this. If auntie wants to give them a kiss and they don't want to get slobbered then tough fucking luck auntie, I'll back the little shits up when they bite you. Predators are, by and large, able to do what they do because people don't teach kids that they do, in fact, have bodily autonomy.
And while I'm at it bodily autonomy of kids also implies that parents don't parade photos around like some fucking trophy or something. Have some basic fucking regard for your own kids and what they want. How would you feel when they're showing nude pictures of you to their classmates yeah I thought so.
I like this additional take with pure facts and discussion, It’s mostly uncharacteristically civil and starts to be interesting or at least has potential to be.
However I am mostly focused on why one picture is big wtf and why one is smaller wtf.
tl;dr "Misandry is perfectly fine because men are evil and nothing a woman has ever done is wrong."
The problem isn't that the bottom scenario isn't accepted, it's that the top scenario is. No one should be showing off nudes of children in public, or anywhere really, regardless of gender. It's weird, it's sick, and it has no place in this world.
There’s nothing wrong about nude children or any other human old or young. Just go to a beach in Europe…
Yes Americans are weird about this thanks to years of well… catholic brain rot
It's weird, it's sick, and it has no place in this world.
Only if you think a naked body = sex, which is a weird assumption to make if you think about it.
You misinterpreted OP, otherwise I also do think the top scenario is weird.
The hot tl;dr of this that is going to get you a lot of angry boys sending you incoherent diatribes is that we haven't decided as a species that we will stop sexualizing youth.
Yes there are biological imperatives for the sexually aggressive sex to seek out mates that are young, healthy and capable of producing offspring before they become too old to reproduce. That's all a thing that's real, but it's as far distant in our past as most other ancient instincts that we've put to rest. We just keep this one alive because we want it to continue broadly. The whole notion of older men predating and sexualizing children is absolutely something that if we all decided together was no longer acceptable, it would end tomorrow. (Or realistically in one generation.)
The reason I say this is because there are a lot of men who will secretly or overtly hold the position that since we have biological urges, then it must be natural and acceptable. Meanwhile, ya'll fuckers completely ignore the thousand other biological drives and standards that we've abolished because they're unproductive, hurt people or just have gone out of style.
For example: body odor. Do you really think we were using soap and perfume when we were packed together in huts and caves for the last thousand millennia? You are genetically identical to the people who used to bury their faces in each other's armpits to identify each other in the dark, but the thought makes you gag now because you were socialized to feel repulsion at this. (Fetishes aside.) We can socialize ourselves to believe and internalize almost anything, we are far, far beyond the forces of natural selection and are now choosing our evolutionary path. Wouldn't it be nice if we chose good paths that respected others and protected children.
(Fetishes aside.)
damn, you got me on that one.
You're right, but I feel showing people photos of your child's genitals should never be OK, outside of medical professionals etc.
Thanks for the lecture, professor.
My god damn pleasure sub
It will take another 100 years of intense education and raising new generations to have the society that isn’t obviously fucked up and deeply hurt.
I don't share in your positivity.
incels will downvote this
sexualisation and brainwashing of the girls and patriarchy and men having this big power gap
Women can do what men can't = sexualisation and brainwashing of the girls and patriarchy. Ok. "Men having this big power gap" indeed.
and sometimes using it in the most monstrous of the ways
we arrive at this conclusion immediately and without hesitation thanks to all the hard work of men thorought history.
you say this like women have ever had rights to the point that being ogled at "would be bad" the one argument here would be the "daughter is her fathers property" and that's not really a gender thing, that's a social custom about gender more than anything.
Maybe we should encourage suicides in boys starting in schools, would that work for you?
username checks out.
His issue was phrasing. The woman used a euphemism which significantly shifted her perceived intentions. “Look at his little wee-wee” is far removed from “look at his little penis.” Synonyms are not created equal, so simply substituting without considering connotation will only cause confusion. He should have said “get an eyeful of her little vagina.”
I mean, penises are just inherently funny. Look at them, they’re ridiculous.
I feel personally attacked.
True. Imagine comparing the humour between a meatsicle vs just a hole.
My mom was one of those top ladies. 😬
It's OK kolanaki, I find your wee wee very cute too
I'm gonna go ahead and say that it's weird all the way around. Any gender combo for kid/parent/audience.
Having had four kids, if you are showing people pictures of any baby in the bath naked, they're gonna be upset no matter the gender. I don't think his is true at all.
I wish I could burn half my mother's photo albums.
You can. Just not yet
Given there are people in this thread defending this tooth and nail, that's quite reassuring to know actually.
Nowadays, girls can have a wee wee. 😬
No, they are babies, they don't even know how to speak, how are they going to be able to know what "gender" even means?
Calling a baby with wee wee a girl is the same as calling your 18 year old trans daughter a boy, you are just trying to brainwash them.
Oh, hee hee hee.
"Nowadays, boys can have a vagina."
What the fuck!?
the child cant talk yet and has no sense of wtf a "gender" is, its fine lol
They waited 6 months to drop this knowledge bomb.
... and?
Situation also matters. This appears to be on a bus and between acquaintances. Do this same thing at home toward the adult child's significant other and it becomes a funny thing parents do to embarrass their kids.
funny thing parents do to embarrass their kids
And what is funny about that?
That's parents' favorite move! "Ha! You used to be smaller! And naked!" ¯(ツ)_/¯
Le small pp
Funny for the parents
I just wouldn't bring my significant other around if my parents were like that. That's absolutely gross behaviour.
Yes.
And why do we think that might be different? Anyone?
Because they are sitting in a pink colored train, and not in the blue colored one.
Also no, but interesting point
So labia, then? Or vulva, maybe. Unless that camera is an internal one, they're likely not seeing any vaginas.
I too took middle school health class
I get a chuckle about Ultra sound images as well. It's fine if a woman wants to post those photos of her insides on the Internet. But I'm the bad guy if I say "Jessica pop that pussy open let's see it in person."
You can't see the baby without the ultrasound. It's not like you could grab a speculum and get a good look in person.
I wish I was still dumb enough to be conservative. I was happier than. I hate myself now everyday I wish I had the courage to kill myself
Wtf?
"I wish I didn't know about societal and existential problems of humanity. I was happier when I didn't. I hate myself now everyday, I wish I had the courage to stop my suffering."
I was. I was still angry all the time, but at least it was not at myself
Conservatives live in an endless cycle of outrage and fear, the fuck you talking about happy
But it's not at themselves
Maybe comfortable is the better word.
That is, anger, outrage, paranoia, and ignorance are their comfort zone. It’s what they know. And in my little corner of the world, the more vociferously conservative they are, the less self-aware they are about it.
It’s really pervasive in ways I never truly realized until way too far into adulthood when I was working to get that shit out of my own head.
Sounds like a really strong need for therapy.
In the meantime would you be willing to elaborate on whats making you depressed?
Both variants are pretty wtf to me. Not necessarily showing the pictures but explicitly pointing out their genitals.
Showing pictures too.