Types of OS

As someone who worked (trying to) teaching people how to use computers, I can tell you that windows isn't user friendly. People just got used to it. I had a far easier job when teaching how to use android and a gnome gui.

I love I have to distinguish between Windows settings and “no, old Windows settings. Go to the control panel” where they haven’t changed it since XP or whatever but you need it for some stuff.
- Some of those dialog boxes have not changed a bit since Windows 3.0.
Android user experience depends heavily on apps. Most of the popular apps changed their UI many time over the past decade. Getting people especially the elderly to frequently learn these changes is not a feature of a good UI.
(Remember what Microsoft did with Windows 8)
- Can't agree more. People get so confused because of those random significant changes out of nowhere. Software companies don't seem to do any long-term planning or previous research on usability, and treat their apps like playgrounds, forgetting that a LOT of people rely on them, most without high tech skills.
- Microsoft jumped the gun and thought everyone would be working off of phones, like bro imagine programming on a phone keyboard

ATM's are a PC running an OS like Windows or Linux. They aren't a type of OS.

Half of stuff on this diagram is not an OS
- not just half
They usually run Older Windows or MSDOS too, definitely not their own OS category.

The more you look at the diagram the worse it gets. Why does it include os's then wm's then suddenly xorg itself and then an atm??

Edit: also why is there a version of the linux kernel

No, all operating systems don't suck.

"Contains at least one flaw" is not "sucks"

"is not exactly tailored to my specific requirements, aesthetic preferences and built using technology I'm familiar with" = "sucks" apparently

Windows +WSL is a whole lot more geek friendly than osx.

Windows 🤮
- 👌👍
The only reason that WSL exists is because Windows sucks for software development. I had more fun developing software on macOS and that has its own problems.
I don't mean any offense, it's so much more work to get that stuff set up on Windows if you don't use Visual Studio or any of the other IDE that automated setup. On Linux or Macos it either comes with it or you install it with one command or file, no fuss no install wizard that takes forever no weird setup process.
Especially modern macOS, macOS has become...too distrustful of the user IMO. Maybe even as a pathway to getting their user base used to a locked down OS on a Desktop/Laptop for future expansion of that walled garden.
Sure, windows has system accounts with permissions levels above admin, like SYSTEM or TrustedInstaller, like macOS. But the difference is you can take control of one of these "Uber Admin Accounts", macOS does not.
- The amount of times where I encounter an app being "too old" to run on MacOS, for the sole reason because Apple said so are too numerous.
  Nothing you can do then. If Apple says you can't then you can't.
  At least on Windows it lets you fuck up and do things that Microsoft didn't intend to.
What can you do with thw WSL? Can you run a wm for example with it? And if so, can you use the super key as a modifier?
- apparently wsl 2 enabled option to run gui apps too so I would imagine desktop or wm would work too, but I don't think it would be possible to enable super key for those without windows registering it too. this is just my speculation though. but traditionally people use it to run linux cli applications etc.
  at least my classmates have been using it for classes that require usage of linux. I have never touched it myself since I converted to the church of linux before wsl was a thing
- Run containers, mount both system volumes without significant write performance, wm, and networking is simple. No idea about super.
  I have to use MS suite and this is far than osx bastardized unix and for most of my day to day technical work its essentially Linux built natively into Windows in practice.
- So I have to use a windows machine for work. I can't tell you how awsome wsl is. You can use any Linux package on wsl. If you are crasy enough you can even run desktop environments like xfce. All this with nearly native speed.
  Of cource things links a KVM aren't possible but nothing is nicer to just type wsl into your terminal and have your Linux distro of choice ready to go
- WSL is just a well integrated VM running Linux. It's mainly intended for CLI tools, but there's nothing preventing you from e.g. running an X server and having programs appear in the Windows "window manager".
  The super key is largely inaccessible though. It's tied very deeply into Windows, which is still the one talking to the keyboard.

Debian is middle

Debian is quite mid, I agree
- I don't want my OS to stand out. I want it to be out of my way.
  Like an antisocial dude in the basement who quietly handles my I/O processes for me without giving me his opinions or "helping" me manage my media and contacts.
with linux mint maybe a little to the user friendly side?

How is Windows user friendly?

For starters, you don't need to enter a single command to get a fully functioning system.
- Have you tried installing literally any debian based system recently? Works without a single command.
- To install the current version of Windows on my PC, I need to enter command prompt from within the installer and type 2 commands to disable ethernet and the online install requirement.
  Otherwise it won't let me install it without a Microsoft account.
  Almost all major desktop Linux distros let you install them with "Click Next until Done" now.
- Same for Ubuntu, no?

Everything since the abacus, just a bunch of crap. https://piped.video/watch?v=YRlPTbKHIPQ

Eniac??

Plugging cables in jacks to program it? Yes, it's technically a computer. But have fun running stuff on it.

... They suck at everything?

linux mint wants to talk

Gnome is geek-friendly?

And DOS bloatless?

MS DOS is the definition of bloat from 4.0 onwards. It’s like people assume a CLI is the hallmark of efficiency without any real understanding of the host OS.

I like how the Android logo is: something went wrong

LXQT wants a word

Hmmm, no custom bare metal commercial product running linux? Roger that captain.

Sent from my Android

I would argue that AOSP can get in the middle

KDE should be moved into Android's spot and Android should be chucked further away with Windows.

Omg the Cydia logo. I kind of enjoyed jailbreaking iPhones up until the 4S, then I was just like "Fuck it, Imma try Android" with my HTC One M8 and it's still the best phone I've ever owned.

I don't know, I think Maeomo / Meego - Nokia N9 was pretty close to ticking all boxes.

I lament the death of Meego almost daily

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comparing gnome and xorg

this is a nerd trap