This man is an antivaxxer and helped kill his wife by forcing her not to get vaccinated.
This man is an antivaxxer and helped kill his wife by forcing her not to get vaccinated.
This man is an antivaxxer and helped kill his wife by forcing her not to get vaccinated.
Oh holy fuck… oh holy fuck…
Yep. I just found this in my Facebook memories and this one was baaaaaad.
That's the only way to change their minds unfortunately
You're giving them waaaay too much credit
It's just too weird.
One that he would bother to admit it.
Two, even if he had the self awareness to reflect upon it, how "coy" he was being.
You’d be surprised how many abusers will tell on themselves thinking they are sharing a story about how something unfair was said to them. Then they give you the backstory as they relay it to a friend where they think it’s a safe space. A lot of assholes will still staunchly think they are in the right. Sadly a lot of their friends will join in on a toxic journey with them too. YouTube comments are pretty rife with these cliques.
Yup. I used to follow a YouTube channel run by a couple, then they had a harsh breakup and she left the channel. Some time later she comes forward with allegations of abuse against him, and I’m like “okay but this is just her side of the story, what if it’s all bullshit?”.
Then he addressed the allegations. The way he addressed them, to me, was exposing himself FAR more than anything she said. It was like watching a movie villain monologue. Really scary how skewed those people’s perceptions are.
Absolutely correct this post comes off as "This is the bad thing my wife said to me before she died and I'm too oblivious to realize it was my fault". I've seen the same shit with couples looking for validation after a nasty breakup.
I’m 90% sure I was able to find the correct person the post belongs to. They’re listed as widowed. They live in/are from areas that you would stereotypically expect a person to be taking horse dewormer instead of getting vaccinated. His public comments are full of typical boomer humor memes, misogynistic gems like (copied right from his page) “ Just heard an interesting fact….25% of women are being treated for mental illness….that means 75% are running around untreated 🤣🤣🤣”, guns, and more gems like this: E: image didn’t upload. It was a side-by-side image of a muzzled dog and a woman wearing a large covid mask titled “obedience training”.
And then everyone clapped...
The fact that freedom in the US is conflated with not getting the vaccine is incomprehensible. Something like vaccination should be mandatory with very limited exceptions for truly legitimate cases.
I'm old and I remember you just got your little shot card filled up before you went to school and that was that.
I love vaccines. I get any one I can.
I treat vaccines like pokemon...gotta catch em all. If someone offers me a vaccine, I'll take it, even if it's for something rare. I just want to be immunized against as many things as possible.
Collect them all like Thanos and the infinity stones
You still need that card. My kid would not be allowed into school without it.
As much as I like to make fun of the US, in this particular case I have to point out that a lot of other countries have antivaxxers.
Here in France we have an epidemic of them, and the numbers shows they really made covid worse. My own dad is one of them, and he told me dead serious he'd rather get sick than get any vaccine and that's his choice and nobody should force him. He, and I guess most other antivax too, either does not understand the concept of herd immmunity or doesn't care about other people.
As an American it is horrifying to not be able to argue with this directly, because for every outward appearance it might as well be true.
But the argument I would make is that Americans are not the dumbest people in the world, Americans are simply allowed to survive and visibly prosper in spite of, and sometimes because of, their obvious stupidity. And combining this with the entitlement inherent in 'just happening to be born here' and the relative complete lack of suffering most of them experience, makes it easy for them to publicly hold opinions that people in most countries would either have to keep to themselves for their own personal safety, or just because few others are willing to join arms with them.
Basically it's a constantly building bubble that could happen anywhere, and to smaller degrees probably happens all over the world in small communities, but here it's a bubble that for some reason has been resistant to popping, to the point where any attempts to pop it are easily avoided due to it's mass and ridiculously protective userbase.
Look at the UK and Brexit, or Russia and the mass of people outwardly supporting Putin, or the Middle East and apparent support of honor killings. Even if the majority of the people living in these areas don't agree with this outward support, fear or resignation or something stops them from being the loud voice in the space. In the US it might be closer to resignation or hopelessness, but across the world we're all really the same when you sit down and talk normally...there are stupid people everywhere you look, here we just don't have a good way to embarrass them into shutting up.
To be fair, America has a health system that gains from keeping people ill and medicated, and after Tuskegee there is little trust in the government either.
Fuck off. You think tik tok and social media is reality? The reality is that there have always been willfully ignorant people and there always will be. In every population. Your generalizations really reflect yourself huh?
There's a saying I want to make famous: "One man's freedom ends where another's begins." Your freedom not to take a vaccine only lasts as long as it does not affect your neighbor's rights to live and breathe.
It's a popular phrase already
Wearing a mask, quarantine and distancing protected your neighbor. The covid vaccines only protected yourself.
But you can't read books by black and/or gay authors in some states. The right only likes to cherry pick the freedoms.
They've become very anti freedom in fact. Unless it has something to do with a major lobby like guns, or letting corporations pollute air and water, they pretty much are pro restrictions on most things.
you can't buy alcohol in some counties.
"I wanna make a medical choice about my own body..."
The Right: "Ummm...hold on now..."
"And skip my vaccinations!"
The Right: "Oh! You scared me for a second! Carry on then."
You can't get them in school liberties, they're still available everywhere else
Heck, I had to fight to get the vaccine in my country.
I was working at a food bank during covid. I was coming face to face with 200 different people every day. Many of whom were covid positive but because they were homeless they had no where else to go.
I have a genetic condition that effects my sympathetic nervous system. I have sinus bradycardia, and chronic pulmonary congestion due to having over 10 bouts of aspiration pneumonia. On top of this I have an autoimmune condition. I was taking immunosuppression therapy in March 2020, I stopped taking because I couldn't risk my immune system being suppressed in my line of work. I was so sick because of my untreated autoimmune condition, but I just had to deal with it.
In October we started rolling out the vaccine to our most vulnerable populous. I was eligible because of my autoimmune condition and I was first in line at my local vaccination centre.
But my genetic condition was on the list of contraindications. They were just going to send me away until I broke down crying explaining my job and my risk and my fear of catching covid. So I had to get two doctors to sign off on me getting the vaccine, and I had to make a special vaccine booking because they needed an NP to do a pre-screening and then I had to wait around for 3 hours afterwards and then get a post-vaccination check up and the NP had to sign off.
My booster shots were easier, because I just took my proof of vaccination certificate to the pharmacy and I didn't even mention my underlying conditions. (I didn't have that luxury the first time. I had to hand over my medical records to prove I was eligible for the first round of vaccinations. But after my first jab, the fact I had gotten my first dose was proof enough that I was previously approved to be part of the first round, so I didn't need to present my records to get my boosters)
Trying to get an appointment with two separate doctors during a global pandemic for some red tape paperwork was like pulling teeth.
It should not have been that hard for someone to get a vaccine when they want one. I understood the risks. I'd rather die of a vaccine interaction that helps provide information that makea the vaccine safer for others, than just be another statistic of covid 19.
Vaccine darts would be a huge boon to public health.
Because it lessens the severity of the illness?
I’m so glad to live in a country with mandatory vaccination where conspiracy theorists aren’t given a platform
2024 and I'm still seeing this shit? Shut the fuck up.
how stupid are you
Yeah it makes more sense for vaccines that are, well, better at being vaccines. Something like MMR that actually is effective enough to create hurd immunity. Small pox vaccine was so good it eradicated the disease completely. Covid vaccines are more like flu vaccines - sometimes they work sometimes they don't. It's still better than nothing for >95% of people. There are those who respond badly to the covid vaccine too, so it's technically a gamble either way. While the science says it's better odds to have the vaccine than not, I can't force people to take that risk with me.
In this study, vaccinated Omicron index case-patients seemed to have the same transmission capacity as nonvaccinated persons. We did not find this increased transmission capacity for the Delta variant, where significant differences in SAR were observed in global, household, and occupational settings (Table 1) within groups.
How one variant interacts with vaccination does not describe how every variant does; your own study is, at best, documenting an exeception to the rule that vaccines work.
Americans are generally not taught what freedom means... or the careful dance between "freedom to" and "freedom from". The "golden rule of liberty" - that "your rights end where mine begin, and vice versa" - is utterly alien to most of us. Anything that could limit someone's "freedom to" is demonized, even when that limit is because the "to" in question brazenly violates everyone else's "from".
E.G.
Rational Person: "I have a right to not be harmed by your actions."
Average Murican: "fAsCiSt!"
Profile pic checks out
The face of a man who would spend 75% of his pension each month on insulin just to own the libs.
I really like how people try to censor names and fail to do so. If you really want something like that to be irreversible put a fucking black rectangle instead.
Ah but that's hard to do on a phone and you know nobody uses computers anymore. Just scribble over it with your finger, like a toddler in Kindergarten. Good enough!
There's literally apps for redacting screenshots.
The best one I've seen is where people scribble over it but it's in a slightly transparent color so you can still easily read the text underneath. I can only assume that they were in a very bright environment because otherwise it's blindingly obvious.
If it was posted publicly, then you can just search for it. The globe icon tells you that the post is public.
Sure, but user can always remove their message and don't want others to know they wrote that. And yes, I know that if you put something on the internet, you should be aware that it may never disappear, but publicly displaying regular people's names on different website with context is a big no-no in my opinion. Also in EU there's a right to be forgotten, and while I am not sure about exact details (I am not a lawyer), this might be illegal here as well.
I think they did a pretty decent job censoring those names? I can't figure out any of them and I really tried, tbh.
Putting three instances of names as layers on top of each other with transparency effect already uncovers a large part of the most common name there, so I definitely disagree.
If you know the exact typeface and font size used, you can just try to put letters top of the image to guess them as well (so you try to match parts of the letter with one exact character to be precise). And I am pretty sure there are some tools that make this even easier (or at least made internally by some U.S. security agencies :) ).
How can you do that on a phone?
One of the other tools in the photo editor. Or just increase the pen tip size.
I don't know. Maybe select rectangle tool, or big pen with no transparency effect? How am I supposed to know exactly, I probably use different phone than yours, which has different set of built-in tools.
You have to use a crayon.
There are enough rare phonemes that you can easily find this from any search engine even if the names are blacked out completely.
I fully believed this is shitposting until I saw the title and sub... We are fucked
It's not a shit post. This really happened.
Nope it's real, I found him a few years back.
We made certain populations with many comorbidities very aware before they went for sedation on the vent that they would likely never wake up again. It was always a tough conversation and actually pulling the trigger on it while they were suffocating was hard. Most of my job at the time was doing everything I could to keep people who were maxed out in high flow oxygen off the vent.
This was hard to upvote because I hate it so much.
I understand. Feel free to down vote. That's why I post so many sovereign citizens because at least they're kind of hilarious.
It's a fine post, I just hate the content.
This is outrageous. Entirely too many modern men disgrace all of us, by failing to beat their wives to death. Time-honored tradition isn't appreciated enough here in '24
If you find his page (it’s not hard) it’s full of stereotypically what you’d expect. Boomer humor memes, guns, mocking Taylor Swift, misogynistic comments, etc.
And how women are all mentally ill, yeah I saw yesterday.
It's always the wo man
Fuck man, I read the title but still, seeing it spelled out, fuck. That's some heavy shit.
Deserved too. I blame the dipshit that was president for it though. All he had to do was say to wear a mask and get vaccinated and so many lives would have been saved. The whole fighting over it would never have happened. It's really pathetic, and these mouthbreathers are trying to vote his dumbass back in.
If I recall correctly Trump did originally, but back-peddled the moment he faced the slightest push-back from his mouth-breathing constituency.
The weak man’s idea of a strongman, indeed.
Survival of the fittest on display. If you're dumb enough to believe what a Cheeto tells you, then you get what's coming to you.
He could have sold red masks to match his hats, he would have made a killing, the Jan 6 insurrectionists would have covered their faces. turns out his stupid countered his evil.
This seems like a troll, idk, it's too funny.
Was it posted to an anti-vaxx group? Good troll.
The good trolls go where their voice can be heard.
It's not really funny.
Imagine being manipulated into refusing medical treatment.
This woman had a miserable marriage and died an unnecessary death.
Nope he's real. I can post related shots.
Anti-science is anti-reality
Party of self responsibility get mad when somebody kills them. Bootstraps my ass.
It's not that I don't believe this didn't happen, I don't believe this happened in the way that is orchestrated.
I could not imagine a relationship where the last words of spouse ends up being an attack on the significant other. I fully believe that people are probably unvaccinated due to a significant other saying no, vaccinations are bad, but I don't see a world where they actually mentioned this as the last three words.
the entire matter is super sad though
You don't see a world where being sick, on your death bed, and about to be out on a vent, makes you say some hurtful things to a loved one that contributed to you being in pain?
People don't think things like this will effect them until they do. I can totally see a SO trusting their spouse with figuring out if a new vaccine is safe to take, because some people are too busy with other aspects of their life to look into that stuff. That's what happens in relationships. Then when you get sick and reality hits you, your thoughts changed. You're in pain and not thinking logically.
My wish is the surviving spouse learns from this and becomes a big pro-vaccine advocate, but.....yeah fat chance.
How did he force her to not get vaccinated? She's a grown ass woman
By bombarding her with antivaxxer propaganda and threatening her with divorce if she got it sadly.
Grown or not, some people are very much under their spouse's control because of money and other vulnerability.
Are you for real “for real”? This is OC and you know the backstory?
Sure, but that kind of thing mostly refers to housing and income. It would be trivial to get vaccinated without telling your spouse or anyone else who wants to make a big deal out of it. This lady made the bet that appeasing her husband was more important than getting vaccinated and she lost that bet. Her husband certainly bears a large portion of the blame for creating the situation she found herself in but she could have easily found her way out of it without causing a fuss. She chose not to.
Ah yes, conservative women. Known for their full autonomy and independent thinking
You can coax even a grown-ass person to not take the vaccine via misinformation and guilt tripping. Covid is only like 4 years ago it should be still fresh in everyone's mind.
It did happen. And he's still free, was posting yesterday.
Even if it did, his wife isn't there to say he stopped her in a legal fashion. Like she is a grown adult that made a horrible decision to support her husband. But I don't think it's a legal manslaughter or something along those lines.
I do however feel it's morally fucked up.
he didnt force anybody, being stupid is not a crime
There are many women that are not given a choice, not every woman is in a situation where they can act autonomously within a relationship to a man. This antivaxxer was at least a manipulator and very well could have been an abuser or domestic threat to her, so much that she would not go behind his back out of fear. Her moment of power was at the end where she could finally be honest to him without consequence.
It's shitty that many women live in this world, and your response really shows a lack of understanding or caring.
that isn’t an open invitation to help a person hurt themselves. Opportunistic manipulators aren’t blameless. Domestic violence is a complex issue you can’t blame the victims entirely for what another person does to them. Stop encouraging psychopathic culture.
Shoulda got vaxxed?
I don't think antivaxxers tend to have life insurance.
brutal. He deserved to hear the truth. doubt he believed though
At this point, it's probably a defense mechanism. Can you imagine the kind of soul crushing realization it would be to accept that you're responsible for your spouse's death because you got way too deep into shit posting on Facebook? It's way, way more comfortable to displace that blame and rationalize it away.
I sort of feel like the exceedingly casual posting on Facebook about this very world-wrenching moment in his life is proof enough for me that he's made a few horcruxes in his time and has a maimed soul.
If I was in his shoes, those 3 words would be on loop in my head, and I'd be curled up in a foetal position bawling, insensate, forever. Like the end of a particularly disturbing Black Mirror ep.
Yeah, but don't you think he still, even if it is just subconsciously, believes it up to a degree?
It must be gnawing at him.
If this is real, I would absolutely feel for him. She would be an adult, though, and capable of making her own decisions.
It’s far worse when it’s someone’s child.