Kentucky Republican pushes bill to make sex with first cousin not incest

Maybe he has a personal interest in this?

edit:

The amendment would also reduce the designation of incest by contact to a Class D felony for some cases "unless it is committed with a person who is less than twelve years of age," in which case it is Class C.

uhhhhhhhhhhh…. that age cutoff seems low

Not if the child he has his eye set on is just above it. :-(

Hey Nick Wilson, tell us you fuck your cousin without telling us you fuck your cousin.

The amendment would also reduce the designation of incest by contact to a Class D felony for some cases “unless it is committed with a person who is less than twelve years of age,” in which case it is Class C.
his 13 year-old cousin, it seems
- Less than 12 ... so basically she's 12.
I mean... Who hasn't had a hot cousin when you go to those really big family reunions...
Most people just legislate to try to rape em.

Glad they are tackling the important issues in Kentucky. I'm sure every Kentuckyan has their ability to fuck their first cousin high on the list of problems they wish their government would address.

“At 17 you can marry your first cousin but you can’t have hormones that your doctor is happy to prescribe”-Kentucky
Actually I’m surprised that’s the youngest I could make that joke. They recently raised the minimum marriage age to 17 with parental consent which like took you long enough but still good job
It’s Kentucky, what else matters? lol
It's stupidity guarantees it will be passed.

HB 269 - "The purpose of the bill is to add "sexual contact" to the incest statute. Currently, incest only applies in cases of intercourse. So sexual touching/ groping by .. anyone with a familial relationship is not included in incest. My bill makes that kind of sexual contact a Class D Felony, unless the victim is under the age of 12, then it increases the penalty to a Class C Felony."

Basically they accidentally left out cousins (and the bill has already been withdrawn) from what sounds like an otherwise good bill and the news media runs wild. Keep this handy when you hear about this for the next ( if <= heat death of the Universe )

imho incest should only be outlawed because of the risk of gene defects during pregnancy. so while nasty I dont think a hanky panky from your first cousin should be outlawed
and no, I dont have a hot cousin
- Beyond the potential biological issues, the biggest problem tends to be coercion and consent. The majority of incestuous encounters are abusive and involve a power dynamic that makes informed consent impossible.
  Now, if every party is an adult and capable of informed consent, it is possible to test for likelihood of genetic defects based upon the parents' genes. So, I can't think of a non-subjective objection if, for example, they met for the first time as adults and didn't know of such relation. Still pretty weird to me but I don't think it's anyone's place to interfere with healthy, loving relationships.
- Why is it nasty if you recognize there is no real risk of genetic issues?
- I read something in passing a while ago and didn't care to investigate the claim so I'm sorry this is just heresay, but the claim was the amout of variety in the modern genetics of humans makes gene defects from incest less likely than it has been in the history of the species. Obviously this one's gonna be case by case but I'd assume if it holds true it's for more diverse populations probably from nations with lot's of immigration and probably still really risky if you share parents. But again, I really didn't feel like spending time investing that.
This would be a great example of fake news.
- Years ago in KY there was an anti-bestiality bill which was defeated. Reason was that it was so vaguely worded that animal husbandry and certain veterinarian practices would be technically illegal.
People are talking about it like they are saying it's legal, rather than it just being left out of a list. Which sure, if it's left out on purpose, that's pretty telling. But a loophole in a law isn't always done on purpose. I'm willing to beleive for now it was an accident

Christ on a bike I thought this was The Onion.

It should be, it should be for fucks sake, but this apparently is the timeline where it is not:-(.
I feel bad for them. Material is scant, what with Trump and Republicans fucking up reality.
Same. It would be a struggle to write a fake headline about the republican party.

So… the same party that wants to stop same sex couples from having sex is upset that the government is telling them whom they can’t have sex with? Golly.

Jokes aside.

Felony by definition means it's punishable by at least one year in prison.

So specifically, why are we incarcerating consenting adults for having sex?

From a moral point, don't do that. From a legal point, stay out of the bedroom.

I'll also add context of this is a very Western belief. Natives of America prevented inbreeding by not marrying within the clan. Your first cousins could be in a different clan and therefore open for marriage.

You say consenting adults, the bill says one of them can be as young as 13 years...
- Yes, and I'll counter that argument by suggesting we ban having sex with children regardless of if the molester is related.
I think the issue is twofold: if you allow a groomer (a real one, not a drag queen) to be around a child for their entire life, there will be an effect on what the child wants as an adult; and people have a lot of opportunities to blackmail family members.
Those things make it difficult to determine if the two consenting adults are both truly consenting. It’s the same logic behind banning polygamy- it’s very easy for people to become trapped in it because their entire social universe supports it, so if you say no, you’re excommunicated. There’s therefore no real way to know if you consented.
It’s the same reason cops can’t have sex with people they are holding under arrest. Oh wait…

Because of course that's the top priority for Kentucky Republicans right now 🙄

How is this important enough to occupy the time of our politicians?

I mean…look at that guy. It probably occupies all of his time. They intentionally picked that photo for this exact reason, I’m sure.
- He just looks like some guy. Not sure why so many people are commenting on his appearance, its childish and unnecessary.
  What actually occupies that guys time, is the process of re-filing the bill to rectify the accidental omission of cousins.
It's jangling keys. So long as there are enough headlines about cousins banging, we won't have enough time left over to get upset about corruption, fascism, etc.
It's not.
It's probably a distraction. To what end, I don't know.

I love that it's blue.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Fugates
- ^ This right here is why Lemmy > Reddit 😂

That's the look of a man the fucked his first cousin.

I rock climb in Kentucky sometimes. It looks like a war zone. Maybe they should fix the astounding levels of poverty, instead of ensuring that it’s legal to bang your family.

Red River Gorge enjoyer?
- Once in a while I grab a slice at Miguel’s and occasionally stick the dyno on June Bug
Inbreeding breeds dumber people, who are more likely to end up in poverty.
That would make the population an ideal Republican electorate.
They are enacting these laws to personally benefit.
- The whole family benefits!

"I hate how everyone always stereotypes and makes fun of us southern states so much, it's not fair."

Then they go do shit like this.

to be ""fair"" i'm pretty sure most (first world) countries actually don't restrict sex between first cousins. or same-sex incest for that matter. could be misremembering though
what is extremely sickening about it is the age the bill wants which makes it not at all comparable to most other countries (well except like France until recently maybe)
i mean it's still pretty incestuous so trying to separate it from other forms of incest as if it's so much different doesn't make much sense
edit: here's a map
lmao i like italy's stance. "yea bro u can fuck ur dad if the news doesn't find out"
- siblings
  dad
  I think I see a pattern here...

I like the way they think

Republicans: "It's not pedophilia if we get rid of the laws making it illegal!"

Guys. I just can't!

Rainbow flags and healthcare for trans people: no way fuck that shit! It's bad for children

Sex with family: no no. It's ok. It's my cousin.

When pornhub takes over (sexual) education

"When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time."

Is he gonna push a bill to make sex between bros not gay next?

More gay if anything

"Republican tries to change law so he can fuck his family, nobody bat an eye"

hes a republican so hes already fucking everyone elses family already anyway
No, so his already existing relationship is okay.

Someone wants to bang their first cousin.

Finally, a win for the Rs

Well, they're into that. If it is taboo, then they are all in that.

This is the most Kentucky thing I’ve ever heard today!

Being a survivor winner gives me real insight into the survivor fan base.
- The bigger issue here is that people are electing game show winners to office.

The article conveniently leaves out that 19 states allow marriages between first cousins and additional states allow those marriages under certain conditions according to Wikipedia. It also is legal in most countries.

Never bothering to make a law about something is VERY different than having made such a law in the past and making a point to go out of their way to change it.
Plus, it is funny bc it reinforces the stereotype, which this comment summarizes well.

Oh so this is why all of Project Zomboid's maps are in Kentucky. They're not zombies, just inbred.

he must be from shelbyville

The law should not be what is preventing people from fucking their cousins for fuck sake

The law is what the political-legislative process agrees to

“This candidate knows how to speak to his base”

Home Sweet Home, Alabama! ♥️

Seriously, it is incest. And Republicans are into that.

The jokes write themselves.

Of course they did.

Way to live up to the stereotype, dude.

- What? I was saying the guy pushing the legalized-incest bill is living up to a gross stereotype.

how the fuck is this a real headline

Because its very misleading and does not properly represent what happened. It was designed to have a response of disbelief.

We need to make Kentucky Man a thing

Is this guy the representative for Shelbyville?

Hm, I wonder who he is sleeping with...

I mean ... the suspect pool is not particularly large.
- First cousins in Kentucky? That's probably only a few hundred thousand people it could be.

I met a pair of lover cousins once at a campsite. They were older, maybe 40s. And they were loud & proud about the fact that they were lovers and first cousins. It was unsettling.

“I eat ass”

This was a mistake in the bill which he retracted, amended and resubmitted.

The first cousins are safe, legally anyway.

What I don't get is I assume they had a law so why was this needed?

Yea, news article I saw said he posted this about it
I filed HB 269 yesterday. The purpose of the bill is to add “sexual contact” to the incest statute. Currently, incest only applies in cases of intercourse. So sexual touching/groping by uncles, stepdads or anyone with a familial relationship is not included in incest. My bill makes that kind of sexual contact a Class D Felony, unless the victim is under the age of 12, then it increases the penalty to a Class C Felony.
During the drafting process, there was an inadvertent change, which struck “first cousins” from the list of relationships included under the incest statute, and I failed to add it back in. During today’s session, I will withdraw HB 269 and refile a bill with the “first cousin” language intact. The fact that I was able to file a bill, catch the mistake, withdraw the bill and refile within a 24 hour period shows that we have a good system.
This is a bill to combat a problem of familial and cyclical abuse that transcends generations of Kentuckians. I understand that I made a mistake, but I sincerely hope my mistake doesn’t hurt the chances of the corrected version of the bill. It is a good bill, and I hope it will get a second chance.
- So wait, he was actually trying to expand the definition of incest to protect more victims?
  I didn't see that coming at all! Not from a Republican anyhow. They don't really come off as the party that gives a fuck about the victims.
  Huh.

I've made it a goal to stay off reddit, but I'm breaking this pledge today too see with r/survivor has to say about this! I'm positive they won't disappoint

Edit: zut alors! It's not being reported there... Or mods scrubbed it

This guy's got a couple first cousins somewhere blushing furiously.

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Take me home

To the place!

I belonggggggggggggg

WEST VIRGINIA

COUNTRY MAMA

Country road

Take me homeee...

This is the best summary I could come up with:

A Kentucky Republican has introduced legislation that would amend the state's law so a person who had sex with their first cousin would no longer be criminally liable for incest.

According to the Kentucky General Assembly website, it would strike "first cousin from the list of familial relationships" defined as unlawful incest in the state.

In November 2022, Wilson ran unopposed for the 82nd District of the Kentucky House after Republican incumbent Regina Huff retired.

It would also alter Kentucky law on parole for violent offenders to include a person "who has been convicted of incest by sexual contact" within the definition.

In August 2021, webcomic creator and YouTuber Christine Weston Chandler, also known as Chris Chan, was arrested on a charge of incest in Virginia and later caused a stir by stamping their feet repeatedly in court to disrupt proceedings.

French survivors of incest spoke out online in January 2021 using the hashtag #MeTooInceste after prominent lawyer Camille Kouchner alleged that her stepfather, a high-profile political scientist, sexually abused her as a child.

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It's part of his Game of Thrones omnibus bill.

Kentucky living up to its reputation

In his defense New York did allow FDR to marry his first cousin.

Sweet Home Kentucky? 🤣

I love how everyone that speaks logically and factually about this has to first overtly announce and apologize that they aren't supporting this candidate. Like, is everyone here so opposed to actual facts if it looks like there is even one iota of support for the 'other team'? Even when that's clearly not the case. Please, someone else has to see the stupidity.

My experience on lemmy is that the facts are secondary. It's a slight exaggeration, but if you don't support someone, you have to oppose everything they do or you are some big supporter of them. If you point out some criticism of them is not based in fact, it's "why would you defend them?"
It's much easier if the world is black and white and you're in a bubble that agrees with that. And so they'll attack anything that upsets this uniform simplicity.
Like, is everyone here so opposed to actual facts if it looks like there is even one iota of support for the 'other team'?
It's an election year in the US, so yes. The amount of people I see get down voted for what people assume someone means instead of the literal words on the screen is absurd. I see people preface critisizm of America with 'Im euroepan' so they dont get mobbed by Americans demanding they admit Trump is worse and that voting for anyone but their guy is sure to bring the apocalypse.
Don't get me wrong I much prefer Lemmy to reddit, but there's not as much difference in community as some people like to say there is. Basically we just like linux a lot more here.
- No, this place is much worse than reddit. You could find a space that had different views on reddit. Here is just one giant echo chamber that you must agree with or else. Democrats have just as much good ideas as Republicans, which is to say pretty freaking close to zero. So it would be nice to get factual information from either side, but that clearly won't happen here.

Sometimes, a picture and a headline is all you need.

Hey... uh... Nick? Something you want to tell us?

At first I assumed since this is a Republican that it would be about reducing abortions in case they had an incest exception.

Turns out they don't have such an exception, so he must have a really hot first cousin that is otherwise dtf.

"This is the problem I wanted to solve when I was elected"

It's still incest mate. Even if you make it legal incest.

Okay, to be fair, I see no problem with fucking your first cousin. What I do see a problem with is having a child with them. A couple of my cousins are totally hot and i bet most ppl have one of those. Plus, it prob happens more now anyway since its taboo and that makes it more fun.

He looks like its already legal

Pretty sure that's legal here