Feds forcibly yank woman in medical scrubs from car as she screams she's a US citizen
Feds forcibly yank woman in medical scrubs from car as she screams she's a US citizen
Prison sentences for ICE agents who participate. There is no excuse.
She is visible white and 👱 blond, a medical worker, speaks with no accent.
She was eventually let go.
The first one is why the second one happened.
These ICE agents deserve the worst possible sentence. Especially as they caused many forced disappearances, which are crimes against humanity.
Surely Florida residents are all aware that the entire state is within the 100-mile freedom exclusion zone.
I have never heard of this and with the average IQ of a Floridian I wouldn’t think they are in the know either.
This is getting weirder. Did they realize they were being shitty on camera?:
“I’m a U.S. citizen, please help me,” she shouted after agents forced her to the ground. “This is unfair. Why are you doing this to me?”
Agents then placed her in a patrol vehicle. She was released a short time later.
“She refused to cooperate and identify herself with all levels of law enforcement there,” said agency spokesman Alan Regalado, noting Monroe County Sheriff’s Office deputies were there. A Herald reporter saw deputies moving drivers along who were slowing down to watch the stop.
After agents removed the woman from her car, they found her driver’s license in the vehicle, ran it through their system and confirmed she is a U.S. citizen, Regalado said.
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/florida-keys/article313356223.html
Edit: So basically, she wouldn't show them her gold star. WTF country are we fucking living in.
I really hope there's an american nuremberg, and i hope they claim they were just following orders, because as with the original nazis, that's been proven to not be a valid excuse. I hope these cunts go to prison for the rest of their lives.
You know how many Nazis were hung in the Nuremberg trials? Like 10. Everyone else was basically acquitted. You cannot rely on systems of power to punish transgressors.
Yeah, we don't need trials we need a fucking purge of fascists. And purges always go so well...
You lovingly forgave the traitors of the civil war, you gave high research positions to nazis after world war II, the signs are not hopeful
Sadly most Nazis minus a few higher ups went without punishment. Many scientists even ended up working for the US as part of Operation Paperclip. Like the Civil War, the punishment NEVER fits the crime and these assholes mainly get off scot-free with no repercussions. Which always leads to a resurgence at some point.
My dad tells me a lot of nazis ended up peacefully moving to Newfoundland too
Unless the citizens start showing up to protests armed our corrupt politicians will do nothing as they’ve always done
I hope so too but I have no faith in the democrats or the current American justice system to make it happen. The only way I see it happening is revolution or war. Otherwise, the federal government will just go on acting like all of this was perfectly normal
And I hope they get the same treatment as last time.
The Nuremberg trials were in my opinion exceedingly light in their judgments overall - too many Germans were guilty to practically execute or jail them all.
The same degree of lenience in this case would be a travesty.
These fools are fucking around and about to find out.
Their force will be met with greater force.
It's more likely that you get healthcare
Since when do we have to show our papers to the secret police?
Since you elected a Fascist dictator in 2024?
That's the why, not the when. The when is as of Jan. 20th, 2025.
If you are white, around 11 months. If you're not white... Well, haha... Funny thing that.. Umm, let me uhh, ya..
I hope she sues the fuck out of them.
She literally can't, ICE agents are federal agents which means they have civil immunity from lawsuits that are a direct result of their duties. Unless they're doing something that a reasonable person would understand to be a breach of the law. That said the federal courts seem to use Donald Trump's circumstantial definition of a reasonable person and only his. So fat chance there's a legal solution to this.
I feel very reasonably that warrantless searches and seizures while not in uniform and face coverings and no badges IS A BREACH OF THE LAW!!!!
Not to even mention all the countless people that have been disappeared or deported to God knows where with no information given to their families or anything. Just poof gone. No jury, no trial, no proof they did anything wrong, no positive ID they are even who they are. None of it.
Please explain how any of that could possibly be legal and how any reasonable person wouldn't consider it evil and terrible and utterly terrifying and dystopian?
How is everyone NOT upset at how awful this all is?
if she doesn't get fucking deported first for no REASON
They let her go.
Only a truly sick society would allow this
It's been allowed under the laws for a long time, it's just like everything else been a polite agreement not to do things like that. The constitution isn't really suited for actors in bad faith in all parts of the government.
But it's not, simply put if you are not committing a crime you are not required to ID.
Border control is allowed to ask you if you are a US citizen and they have expanded authority at established checkpoints. ICE can only ask you are a citizen. They can request ID, but you have the right to refuse.
Now if they can give probable cause that you are breaking a law then you can be detained and compelled to ID. The current legal standing is that race cannot be used to establish probable cause. Now of course the Supreme Court can over turn that anytime.
But all of this to say this has been the law for decades. ICE and local police departments struggle to understand that you do not have to ID when asked except under specific circumstances. Several departments have escalated to arrests that ultimately get thrown out. You can do a search online and find dozens of examples of cities having to pay a lot of money in settlements over false arrests.
But if you are driving a vehicle you are obliged to produce a driver's license in every state. You can't be pulled over just to have your license checked though, there has to be other cause for the stop.
Know your rights and fight for them before they are taken
It's been sick for as long as I've been alive... Americans often just don't know it.
All ICE agents should be treated with nothing but disdain and ridicule for the rest of their lives. We need a running list of their identities so they can be ostracized. Monuments should be built at Arlington so they can join Robert E. Lee in their shame. Make it a public urinal, right at the entrance.
Name and shame ice agents. Dean Cain.
Stupidman
They should all be hunted down
And locked in dingy cages to lay in their own piss and shit with no food. Give them a taste of their own medicine.
I think there's a website/database for this already
When the ICE is dismantled, nobody with excellent salaries and benefits should hire those shitbags.
Hire them? They need to spend the rest of their lives in prison. The most egregious and violent ones should have capitol punishment handed down.
Uhg. FTA:
"She is visible white and 👱 blond, a medical worker, speaks with no accent. This should be a warning sign for MAGAt as they could be preyed by ICE at any time!"
None of that is a reason to believe she's not an undocumented immigrant. And being brown, curly-haired, not-a-medical-worker is not any reason to believe they're an undocumented immigrant.
Is this objectionable behavior by ICE? absolutely. But not because of who the victim is. but because there IS a victim. everyone in this country is protected by the constitution, and afforded the rights of due process- which ICE is flagrantly violating the shit out of.
Can we please stop with the special classes of people like this?
It is important because of the reason they cite.
By going after this woman, they're making it clear to MAGA folk that allowing the rights of minorities to be eroded also removes their own protection. Even racist assholes should be appalled at the civil rights violations being committed.
And in making that argument, it signals to the racist assholes that the problem being that she's white, blonde and professional, and therefore the rest are fair game.
which as you say, erodes everyone's rights. But that's not particularly important to me. the rights of all are worth protecting even if that weren't true.
If MAGA people were able to understand the subtext of this event, they'd be smart enough not to be MAGA in the first place. You might as well try to explain to a dog why drinking antifreeze is bad.
They'll just say "some innocents will be inconvenienced." Remember they don't understand until they are hurt personally.
Yes, yes, yes! But also, it's particularly notable that she's white and blond with no accent because they claim to their supporters to be protecting those specific people from "illegals." Pointing out that they're not only doing something awful but also defying their own stated principles is always a good thing to do.
It makes a point of slapping people who truly believe, even now, that all the ICE activity thus far has been against illegals.
Illegal only. For real. They believe that.
A maga relative in landscaping was mystified as to why half his employees had either left or were leaving and weren’t coming back for the next season. In his words: they’re believing all the lies and hype being spewed by the media.
In his mind, even now, ICE is only doing their job: removing people here illegally. Because media can’t be believed and is filled not with lies but terrible twisting of the truth.
So putting a face on this, that looks like MAGA, is about all that’s left to try to get their attention.
Whoever wrote that doesn’t realize Canadians can also be immigrants.
No, they are appealing to MAGA folks that are picturing getting rid of all the dark skinned people they don't like.
The people that consider that nuance have already been against the ICE crap, you don't have to convince those. The only people that can be convinced are those that you need to get their racism aside before they'll join you. It's distasteful, but it's a way to grow the voices condemning this behavior.
They're Pointing out to the racists that they shouldn't be cheering this on, because not even they are safe from this fascist shit. Because you know maga assumes they're safe because of how they look and talk.
We all know what that's code for. I have never been to the US in my life, and yet as a white European I'd be accosted much less than tens of millions of US citizens.
Next the came for the white, blonde, citizens.
And people continued to do nothing.
You're completely right. All this does is fuel more racism and elitism. Unfortunately it is the reality we currently live in. Many people who are MAGA absolutely believe blonde hair blue eyed white people are true Americans and are safe. Pointing out these facts tells them that they're next and that all of this is wrong. Some people won't realize their mistakes until it happens to them personally. A white woman with blonde hair hits home for many of them and could be a wakeup call.
Again I want to say that I DO NOT agree with bringing up this information. I do not believe it should be relevant at all. It is just unfortunate that this is the reality we are living in and I believe we do need to be the change we want to see by not bringing this information up ourselves.
If she was American, she could afford real clothes instead of those cheap paper ones. Stands to reason.
If after all this was said and done they held some public executions for these traitors, I'd be fine with that.
Side note, why is she bringing her scrubs outside the hospital? Don't you return them after your shift in America, to be washed and such?
No people own and wash their own scrubs. Healthcare is for shareholder profits in America.
These are likely not the drab, standard, facility-provided surgical or operating scrubs that even the I.T. staff has to change in to (or don over top) before crossing the red line into a clean zone, 'red' room or room with isolation precautions. These are the other personally-supplied garments staff wear to look professional in a medical setting. These are the same ones that are sometimes replaced with T-shirts and such on casual friday or department-coordinated Hallowe'en costumes on October 31.
Ah okay, that makes sense. Thank you.
sometimes; my mum doesn't do that often, preferring to wash them at home. in her words, when asked why, she said: "the detergent the hospital uses smells like used clorox wipes left out in the sun and then freezed for 1 day". how she knows what that smells like is beyond me...
No, US hospitals let nurses carry in bacteria and carry out bacteria into the community.
That's the first thing that came to mind, like, wouldn't you want to contain that mess? Wash instantly?
It's just too bad there wasn't one of those responsible gun owners around to prevent terrorists from kidnapping a civilian. Speaking of, where are all of these gun toting Americans that believe they have them to defend America? Fucking cowards.
obvious fedpost, but we need a socialist revolution here in the us. seriously!
"why is this happening" don't know lady, maybe because fascist are in power right now? I wonder if this is what she voted for? Hhhmmmm.
The number of nurses that are maga supporters is too damn high.
No I'm just saying that this is what hateful racist voted for and now we got this happening. Black folks and white folks thought they were safe, but here we are repeating the same tactics as other fascist and dictators. Keep them scared and in line and make an example for everybody to see.
Plus didn't he just declare nurses as a none professions?
This is a wild and ridiculous take for more than one reason. It's astonishing that you managed to pack so much ignorance into two sentences.
Omg it so horrible 🤦🏻♂️
So was she a US citizen? They let her go. Is screaming that I'm a US citizen sufficient to avoid ice detention?
Police don't have the right to pull people over, ask them to exit their vehicle, cuff them, or put them in the back of a vehicle (detain them) without a reason. Stopping someone without reason is harassment, the rest is assault/battery (depending on location)/kidnapping without providing the reason. If they give you a reason they can detain you, but if that reason does not follow the laws or is determined to be unreasonable by a judge the body making the arrest is supposed to be held responsible and penalized, possibly making them open to a lawsuit. Aka she should sue them, and taxpayers should be pissed we are having to pay for this
Had to check the date on the article because this is not the first woman in scrubs on her way to work being yanked out of a car while telling ICE that she is a citizen.
We live in a dystopian hell and for some reason we keep acting like it’s all fine.